closed Chelsea 2-0 Nottingham Forest

[Tomo 20,982]

29 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

Victor Moses should have been sold in the summer, he played all of last season he had much more market value. Now after rotting on the bench all season can't think he would have much suitors. 

Not saying this in hindsight, it was quite clear that he would not play much. 

Moses is a bit of a unique situation in the sense he will still have a lot of suitors due to his ability as a WB.

He will be a coup for any team who play 3ATB.

[Vesper 23,867]

14 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

A CLASS ACT

[Jase 43,476]

 

[kellzfresh 7,211]

1 hour ago, Vesper said:

What a pass by CHO, blew away the defender

When have we ever seen willian blow away a defender except from a counter?? We need CHO and thank goodness we bought pulisic. Let me see how Willian will get away with getting starting spots while playing average 95% of the time

[Pizy 15,891]

Bayern think they're pulling a fast one trying to turn CHO's head. They know that he'll be a mega expensive player within a couple of years if he plays. Hopefully they haven't succeeded.

You can 100% see him going there, exploding in development, and then City or United buy him for £80m or something 3 years from now. 

He really must be convinced to stay. He may be raw and have much to learn, but as someone said here he already looks more dangerous in space than Willian and Pedro.

[Unionjack 7,530]

3 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

We will need some new players then for depth if they all leave (Moses, Cahill, Cesc, Drinks, maybe more?)

And knowing Chelsea, they will overpay for every replacement.

Resulting we wont be reinforcing our team with quality but quantity once more. 

At best we can hope for top striker eventualy, but top LB or CB wont happen.

And not only need upgrades - it will be a BIG HG problem.

We need to get some golden handcuffs on CHO PDQ

 

I will miss Magic Hat. I was always as much of a Cescy fanboy as the many who are Edens.

[Muzchap 8,830]

6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Bayern think they're pulling a fast one trying to turn CHO's head. They know that he'll be a mega expensive player within a couple of years if he plays. Hopefully they haven't succeeded.

You can 100% see him going there, exploding in development, and then City or United buy him for £80m or something 3 years from now. 

He really must be convinced to stay. He may be raw and have much to learn, but as someone said here he already looks more dangerous in space than Willian and Pedro.

If he goes we best have a buy back clause and first refusal.

I don't think we will let him go though 

We need a few academy players to break through- will give hope to the others 

[DYC. 7,542]

1 hour ago, Vybz Kartel said:

Unpopular opinion , Morata and Giroud are not the problem rather it's our first team fullback play combined with Willian and Hazard's ball hogging that are the problem. Azpi and Alonso don't overlap and can't cross so Morata most of the time now barely gets in goal scoring places (his movement has always been his strength) because he has to come out of the box to retrieve the ball. Same with hazard. This is why our 2nd team is usually better at creating clear cut chances compared to our first team because Zappacosta and Emerson even though they are not the best full backs out there still do the basic full back play well enough 

It has everything to do with the level of opponent they face compared to the starters.

[Starman60 1,343]

I will be mega annoyed if we sell CHO. The guy today was a revelation, who brought a freshness to the team. He is still a bit naive, but give him game time and we have a class act here. Would hate to see us sell him and then he turns into another, De Bruyne, Salah etc. and he comes back to haunt us. Be nice to see him and Pulisic flanking Hazard and a new striker, thats if Hazard decides to stay.

[Clockwork 1,462]

42 minutes ago, DYC. said:

It has everything to do with the level of opponent they face compared to the starters.

You are wrong buddy, our FB play has everything to do with our inability to create chances against team that play narrow and deep. It is really just simple math, to create opportunities you need FB that can even the numbers against the opposition and force them to mark them and defend the space they occupy. Alonso and Azpi pose no threat on and off the ball, makes it very easy to concentrate the middle. 

 

[Jase 43,476]

1 hour ago, kellzfresh said:

We need CHO and thank goodness we bought pulisic. Let me see how Willian will get away with getting starting spots while playing average 95% of the time

All of that means fuck all as long as our managers continue to pick their favorites. 

[Unionjack 7,530]

Its not a case of wanting to sell CHO or 'Letting him go' Its another case like Eden where his contract is going to expire and him WANTING to leave. So we will HAVE to sell him or let him walk on a free and thats just not good business when we can make £40mill - OR NOTHING!.

[DYC. 7,542]

6 minutes ago, Clockwork said:

You are wrong buddy, our FB play has everything to do with our inability to create chances against team that play narrow and deep. It is really just simple math, to create opportunities you need FB that can even the numbers against the opposition and force them to mark them and defend the space they occupy. Alonso and Azpi pose no threat on and off the ball, makes it very easy to concentrate the middle. 

 

I was talking about Zappacosta and Emerson. They wouldn’t do jack against stronger opponents. They’re not good enough.

[Unionjack 7,530]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

All of that means fuck all as long as our managers continue to pick their favorites. 

But dont all managers do that?

I doubt that any manager with any sense would pickk a player when he thought another was better than him,

We dont see what goes on in practice. MAYBE he doesn't come across good in training. Zola said he needed to concentrate on getting better and not on how many games he starts.

[Clockwork 1,462]

9 minutes ago, DYC. said:

I was talking about Zappacosta and Emerson. They wouldn’t do jack against stronger opponents. They’re not good enough.

Good enough is not what i will try to justify, the subject is who is more effective. Emerson was quite good against Bournemouth, and he could do things that Alonso can not. It is quite evident who has the physical and technical skills to actually resemble a modern FB. To an less extent same applies with Zappa, much more comfortable on the ball and making runs off the ball than Azpi. 

For me it comes down to skills, regardless of the opposition Alonso and Azpi just don't have it in their arsenal. 

[petre.ispirescu 4,928]

My humble opinion - the back-up full backs are actually more suited to what Sarri tries to play than the actual regular ones. Not saying better as footballers, but better suited to the 'Sarriball'. No disrespect to Azpi, but he's got nothing going forward, Zappacosta although maybe half the footballer Azpi is, he's miles better overlapping and crossing and doing all the shit offensively. In my perfect world I'd shift Azpi back to CB and give Zappacosta some chances. Same goes for Emerson. But it ain't going to happen middle of the season. Maybe next season Sarri's going to reshufle that back line. David Luiz might be gone by pre season, instead of buying a CB, give Azpi a chance there, won a league title as a CB. Not saying he is a shite full back, he'd actually be a stellar one in a Mourinho/Simeone team, but not with Sarri, Pep, Klopp. 

[Vesper 23,867]

Nottingham Forest facing homophobic chant probe after cries of 'Chelsea rent boys' heard at Stamford Bridge

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-6561131/Nottingham-Forest-face-investigation-Chelsea-rent-boys-chant.html

Nottingham Forest fans are under investigation after complaints of chanting considered to be homophobic during their defeat at Chelsea.

Forest fans taunted their hosts with loud cries of 'Chelsea rent boys' during the first half and at the end of the FA Cup third round tie.

One Chelsea supporter was fined nearly £1,000 and banned from football for three years for aiming homophobic abuse to a Brighton fan during a game last month.

A spokesman for anti-discrimination campaign group Kick It Out said: 'We have received reports of alleged homophobic chanting by Nottingham Forest supporters at Chelsea during today's FA Cup fixture.

'We have passed those onto the FA and offered our support in any possible investigation.'

Nottingham Forest are aware of the complaints.

[Magic Lamps 10,413]

6 hours ago, blues.bridge said:

CHO needs to improve his finish and shoot and after he will be insane!

he actually reminds me of a 21 year old Mohamed Salah who also looked the full package except for finishing and shootign until he matured at Roma. That said, CHO has only just turned 19. He will be scary good here or elsewhere. Some would say generational player.

[Vesper 23,867]

3 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

he actually reminds me of a 21 year old Mohamed Salah who also looked the full package except for finishing and shootign until he matured at Roma. That said, CHO has only just turned 19. He will be scary good here or elsewhere. Some would say generational player.

Yep, and the status quo crew just wants to keep trotting out Willian game after game because of some mystical intangibles (invisible to all us mere mortals and only apparent to the god-like board and and their manager) that make him indispensable and miles beyond some snot-nosed brat upstart who dares to want to play more than a few token minutes (and those tossed out only because of injuries).

Now, soon, when the snot-nosed brat sneezes it out

all he will hear is