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10. Christian Pulisic


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2 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

Oh, come on. What should player do for you in 20 mins? 

Krasnodar, Porto first leg, Atletico second leg, tonight, Burnley, City in Cup. All great games from the bench. 

Last season apart from Newcastle and Ajax there were games against Liverpool, Aston Villa, Southampton... 

Great games from the bench? Thought he was only so-so in those games and if you measure the other games against tonight, then those other games weren’t great at all.

Forgot about Liverpool and Villa last season.

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What a lovely little ball for the 4th that was.

Read an article today that shows at present his productivity with and without the ball is overall pretty poor compared to the other players in his position. He averages fewer tackles per 90 mins

Everyone has their opinion and I respect that but I just find his apprehension (if that's the right word) towards Pulisic somewhat bemusing. Loan him out to learn his trade? Really? If Pulisic was som

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So err, can we talk about Pulisic? Is the real Pulisic gonna turn up in the Champions League next week?

I know he's not our only inconsistent attacker right now but what exactly is going on with him? Just about a month ago, he looked like he was getting back to the form he showed last season but apart from the Real Madrid games, everything just went up in smoke and he has been largely ineffective in a lot of the recent games. He's not taking players on, he's not playing with the same self swagger and decisiveness that he displayed last season. I sometimes wonder whether his individualistic style of play can feel at odd with the rest of the team.

Also, I notice that Pulisic gets similar treatment to Mount. When he plays and plays poorly, no one really says anything (compared to others) but when he doesn't play, people will be complaining that he should have started etc and then you have the American fans as well as the media making a fuss over his selection from across the pond. 

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1 minute ago, Jas said:

So err, can we talk about Pulisic? Is the real Pulisic gonna turn up in the Champions League next week?

I know he's not our only inconsistent attacker right now but what exactly is going on with him? Just about a month ago, he looked like he was getting back to the form he showed last season but apart from the Real Madrid games, everything just went up in smoke and he has been largely ineffective in a lot of the recent games. He's not taking players on, he's not playing with the same self swagger and decisiveness that he displayed last season. I sometimes wonder whether his individualistic style of play can feel at odd with the rest of the team.

Also, I notice that Pulisic gets similar treatment to Mount. When he plays and plays poorly, no one really says anything (compared to others) but when he doesn't play, people will be complaining that he should have started etc and then you have the American fans as well as the media making a fuss over his selection from across the pond. 

He is better off the bench when teams have tired legs, lets hope he does not start on Saturday. 

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6 minutes ago, NikkiCFC said:

He made assist today unlike all others.

Nice. His 4th assist all season. Something you constantly destroy Mount on yet he isn't even an attacking midfielder. 

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9 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Nice. His 4th assist all season. Something you constantly destroy Mount on yet he isn't even an attacking midfielder. 

Pulisic has 13 open play assists in Chelsea shirt in around 4750mins.

Mount has 5 in almost 8000mins. I know who I rate more in every aspect of the game.

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Just now, NikkiCFC said:

Pulisic has 13 open play assists in Chelsea shirt in around 4750mins.

Mount has 5 in almost 8000mins. I know who I rate more in every aspect of the game.

Me too. The one who is actually an attacking player. Who's been shit at attacking this season. 

 

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How about they have both been rubbish?

The reason why Pulisic isn't get much stick as Mount really because no one talks about Pulisic as much as Mount.

However that doesn't mean Pulisic hasn't been awful, he has been awful and a major disappointment. I thought this season the real Pulisic is going to stand up.

At least with Mount he came from the academy, but we paid big bucks for Pulisic and we haven't gotten anything from our investment (and if we did, it's little).

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24 minutes ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Nice. His 4th assist all season. Something you constantly destroy Mount on yet he isn't even an attacking midfielder. 

How is Mount not an attacking midfielder.He is constantly played as one of the two no.10s in our system

Anyway. ALL of our attackers have been shit this season. The only one who has been remotely up to his usual standard is Giroud but only if given a run of games.

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It's quite difficult to put a time limit on how long you give a player to start performing consistently well.

We didnt keep KDB or Salah for long enough, which will always haunt us, but how long before we give up on Puli or CHO and move them on?

Not sure if CHO is really all that, but no doubt Puli has the talent to be a top player for us.

Can't wait forever though, so I'd give him next season to start producing and sell him in the summer of 2022 if he doesn't. Same with CHO, Werner, Kai and James too.

 

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9 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

How is Mount not an attacking midfielder. He is constantly played as one of the two no.10s in our system

Anyway. ALL of our attackers have been shit this season. The only one who has been remotely up to his usual standard is Giroud but only if given a run of games.

Just because he plays there doesn't mean he's effective. You just have to look at Mount's overall game and realise he shouldn't be spearheading our attack. He's a B2B midfielder and virtually the only reason he is playing is to provide additional support to the two CMs and how good he is in a press. 

 

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12 minutes ago, Mana said:

How about they have both been rubbish?

The reason why Pulisic isn't get much stick as Mount really because no one talks about Pulisic as much as Mount.

However that doesn't mean Pulisic hasn't been awful, he has been awful and a major disappointment. I thought this season the real Pulisic is going to stand up.

At least with Mount he came from the academy, but we paid big bucks for Pulisic and we haven't gotten anything from our investment (and if we did, it's little).

Kovacic is the one really gets away with non performances.

Without doubt one of the most vastly  overrated players to pull on a Chelsea shirt. Cannot wait yo see the back of this fraud. Him and the equally bang average Jorgi have been absolutely killing us in midfield these past three years.

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6 minutes ago, chippy said:

Kovacic is the one really gets away with non performances.

Without doubt one of the most vastly  overrated players to pull on a Chelsea shirt. Cannot wait yo see the back of this fraud. Him and the equally bang average Jorgi have been absolutely killing us in midfield these past three years.

Not going to argue with that either. Again, Kova doesn't get much stick because many fans are not bigging him up anyway. We need an overhaul of the front line. They are simply not good enough.

It's embarrassing that we are the first club since the 60's to make top 4 and not ONE of our players reached double figures. And our top scorer is Jorginho, ALL of his goals were pens!

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4 minutes ago, Mana said:

Not going to argue with that either. Again, Kova doesn't get much stick because many fans are not bigging him up anyway. We need an overhaul of the front line. They are simply not good enough.

It's embarrassing that we are the first club since the 60's to make top 4 and not ONE of our players reached double figures. And our top scorer is Jorginho, ALL of his goals were pens!

Yep!

Liverpool's keeper has scored only five fewer than our top scorers.

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12 minutes ago, chippy said:

Yep!

Liverpool's keeper has scored only five fewer than our top scorers.

six, but one more non-pen goal lol

on the other hand we should have had like 5 more pens this season so jorginho should have had double figures in a non-corrupt league

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1 hour ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Just because he plays there doesn't mean he's effective. You just have to look at Mount's overall game and realise he shouldn't be spearheading our attack. He's a B2B midfielder and virtually the only reason he is playing is to provide additional support to the two CMs and how good he is in a press. 

Mount has been described as an "attacking midfielder" in a lot of spaces and he himself as well as Tuchel have talked about wanting to provide more assists, to score more goals especially. So, is it not fair to judge him on the G + A output? 

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