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The trio is getting ready!

Wrong.  Typical knee jerk reaction of judging after one game.   

That's not like a 1 season loan player speaks.

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I think for now when we're just playing two of Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante then the former two should get the nod.

They have been operating at a world class level this last month and it has to be rewarded. As incredible as Kante is it will send the complete wrong message if we bench Kovacic immediately.

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25 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I think for now when we're just playing two of Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante then the former two should get the nod.

They have been operating at a world class level this last month and it has to be rewarded. As incredible as Kante is it will send the complete wrong message if we bench Kovacic immediately.

I think we should rotate all 3. How many consecutive games has kova played in the last month or more? These things end up with injuries. We have 3 players in top form for 2 positions. I would keep rotating them specially with that December period just around the corner.

But yes, do agree. Kova-jorginho should be first priority.

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1 minute ago, 1905didierblue said:

I think we should rotate all 3. How many consecutive games has kova played in the last month or more? These things end up with injuries. We have 3 players in top form for 2 positions. I would keep rotating them specially with that December period just around the corner.

But yes, do agree. Kova-jorginho should be first priority.

Yeah eventually it will head into that, I'm thinking more very short term.

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

I think for now when we're just playing two of Jorginho, Kovacic and Kante then the former two should get the nod.

They have been operating at a world class level this last month and it has to be rewarded. As incredible as Kante is it will send the complete wrong message if we bench Kovacic immediately.

I actually think all three should be used against City and try to solidify that midfield. We've been very competitive in two games against Liverpool this season using all three and I think at present in the big games we have more chance of getting a result being a little more pragmatic, especially against Liverpool and City.

Moving forward though I would tend to agree. Against the majority of teams in the league, I actually think we may be better set up with Kova and Jorginho to help us dominate games. The two have literally taken the piss out of everybody we've played in the league over the last month. I felt certainly in the first half yesterday, we really missed Jorginho.

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6 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I actually think all three should be used against City and try to solidify that midfield. We've been very competitive in two games against Liverpool this season using all three and I think at present in the big games we have more chance of getting a result being a little more pragmatic, especially against Liverpool and City.

Moving forward though I would tend to agree. Against the majority of teams in the league, I actually think we may be better set up with Kova and Jorginho to help us dominate games. The two have literally taken the piss out of everybody we've played in the league over the last month. I felt certainly in the first half yesterday, we really missed Jorginho.

I agree we should be using that midfield three at City, but unless Kante has an beyond incredible game (or Kova has an absolute stinker) I feel it should be Jorginho/Kova against West Ham the following week.

Way I see it is if Kova gets took straight out of the team now he may lose some of his motivation, it will send a clear message that he's only backup no matter what he does and not only that it will also contradict everything Frank has been saying about selecting on merit.

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Just now, Tomo said:

I agree we should be using that midfield three at City, but unless Kante has an beyond incredible game (or Kova has an absolute stinker) I feel it should be Jorginho/Kova against West Ham the following week.

Way I see it is if Kova gets took straight out of the team now he may lose some of his motivation, it will send a clear message that he's only backup no matter what he does and not only that, contradict everything Frank has been saying about selecting on merit.

Yeah agree. Don't we have Valencia in between though?

Also with the injury problems Kante has had this season, we should no longer be slogging him like we have in the past.

The biggest thing to take from all of this though is we no longer should worry about being without Kante for the odd game. Take Rudiger, Luiz, Kante and Hazard out of last year's team and I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have coped (we'd have struggled just without Hazard). This season we have ironically flourished.

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3 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I agree we should be using that midfield three at City, but unless Kante has an beyond incredible game (or Kova has an absolute stinker) I feel it should be Jorginho/Kova against West Ham the following week.

Way I see it is if Kova gets took straight out of the team now he may lose some of his motivation, it will send a clear message that he's only backup no matter what he does and not only that it will also contradict everything Frank has been saying about selecting on merit.

But on the other hand, if we leave out Kante, it'll send out the message that he's only useful against the big teams. Jorginho & Kovacic are our two midfield passers. We need to carefully manage and rotate them, especially with the amount of games coming up after the international break. 

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22 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

Honestly wish he'd improve his finishing. He'd be a world beater with Lampard's finishing. 

if he was HALFWAY to Lamps in finishing (Lamps is top 5 all-time n terms of a sniper MF) he would be a £100m player

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On 16/11/2019 at 7:01 PM, MoroccanBlue said:

Honestly wish he'd improve his finishing. He'd be a world beater with Lampard's finishing. 

You can't teach an old dog new tricks I don't think we will never get to see Mateo score double figures it's just not in his style 

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He lost the ball way too much and he needs to improve. The difference level between KDB and Kova is way too high. He is more Defensive than Kante and Kante has to play the offensive Part of our midfield

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23 minutes ago, killer1257 said:

He lost the ball way too much and he needs to improve. The difference level between KDB and Kova is way too high. He is more Defensive than Kante and Kante has to play the offensive Part of our midfield

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Kova made KDB look like a mug at times to be honest. I rate Kova highly but both he and Jorginho need to be more disciplined. They seem to become complacent with their passing, which in turn results in us being countered. 

A lot of our issues is our mentality. 

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