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3 hours ago, DH1988 said:

when no one ahead of him makes any kind of run or movement worth of anything


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Part of me desperately want to see the people suffer a meltdown over Jorginho had he gone to Man City and done well under Guardiola. Those same fellas who are criticizing now would be the same ones ba

I'm fuckin ashamed at peeps booing Jorgi. Call themselves supporters. Why the fuck does he get singled out when all the other cunts play shit useless too? Such selective memories of some! I'm gon

He’s made the most forward passes in the PL so this is rubbish. Open up your mind, expand your football knowledge. Learn the regista role and what it’s meant to do, it’s function in a team. 

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1 hour ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Been nothing short of outstanding throughout the Euros so far.

Jorgi is an excellent player in many facets of his game. His only issue is that he has flaws that are well known and cannot really be covered (pace and physicality.) 

As I have said before, 80-90% of the time he is an excellent player. The only issues come when we end up in PL 'ding, dong' games in those 10-20% times where his flaws get exposed. 

If he played in Spain or Italy, no one would really ever talk about this as he wouldn't have these sort of games as much. 

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we all laugh at Ballon d'Or talk by the Italian players, but holy shit

he has been the best, or damn close to the best player at the Euros IMHO, and his stats this Belgium game are insane

◉ 71 passes attempted ◉ 70 passes completed ◎ Most #ITA interceptions (3) ◎ Most #ITA possession won (9)




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3 hours ago, kiwi1691 said:


If Real and Barca weren't both broke, they would probably be all over him this Summer. 

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On 04/07/2021 at 01:26, King Kante said:

If Real and Barca weren't both broke, they would probably be all over him this Summer. 

Barca yes, for sure, but probably not Real, he doesn't fit their footie style IMHO.

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7 minutes ago, Vesper said:

IF this happens, Dusan Vlahovic is still probably still on the table, but if CR7 leaves, for sure (95% IMHO) he is gone to Juve.




Cristiano Ronaldo has asked Juventus for a new contract, according to a report in Italy.
The Juventus star has been the subject of transfer speculation since Portugal were knocked out of Euro 2020.
Ronaldo was tipped to leave Juventus in search of a new challenge, but Gazzetta dello Sport claim the forward’s agent has moved to dispel rumours his client could be on the move.

Always wary of Serie A hot shot CF's. Needs to do it for 2.5 years before I would be interested. Remember Piatek? 

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1 minute ago, King Kante said:

Always wary of Serie A hot shot CF's. Needs to do it for 2.5 years before I would be interested. Remember Piatek? 

lol I deleted it, I put it in the wrong thread, moved it to the transfer pub

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9 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Barca yes, for sure, but probably not Real, he doesn't fit their footie style IMHO.

what even is Real's footy style lol. old men lumping a ball to benzema maybe.

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Just now, Magic Lamps said:

what even is Real's footy style lol. old men lumping a ball to benzema maybe.

they seem to dislike double pivots, they basically rely on all-action man Casemiro to do most of their MF dirty work

can you imagine Jorginho and Modric paired if Casemiro is not available


Kroos or Valverde (capable of it) would have to do a tonne extra legwork

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33 minutes ago, Magic Lamps said:

old men lumping a ball to benzema maybe.

they really have digressed to this

good call

and they are SO fucked atm if Benz goes down

their squad is so hollow and will only get worse barring massive moves

Thibaut Courtois  (without him, they would be so fucked)
Andriy Lunin (so untested)
Raphaël Varane    (perhaps gone as well, which would be a disaster unless they replace him with an equal level CB, I made a list in the past of the only CB's they would likely move for, it is not a large list and all are crazy expensive and/or hard to pull)
David Alaba   (barring a transfer in, and especially if Varane leaves, he is stuck at CB)
Éder Militão  overrated, I so do not rate him (RM plastics claim he is a top 10 in planet CB, LOLOLOL)
Nacho Fernández   overrated (another one the plastics think is godlike)
Jesús Vallejo   pure dregs, he could not get minutes at Wolves, ffs and was sent back early
Ferland Mendy   decent LB, but limited offensively  
Marcelo    rinsed
Miguel Gutiérrez    youth player
Daniel Carvajal   had a poor year for him, and unlike many, the Plastics are on his arse hard
Álvaro Odriozola   dregs, major bust
Casemiro (only DMF in the squad, but is a top 3 in world traditional DMF)
Fede Valverde  (great young CMF)
Toni Kroos  (may retire after this coming season)
Dani Ceballos    dregs and will be sold   
Luka Modric   (soon 36)
Martin Ødegaard    (up for sale, but may stay as ZZ left)
Isco   (turns 30yo this season, is a shadow of his former self)
Brahim Díaz   (meh)
Eden Hazard    (enough said, injuries have ended his career at top level more than likely)
Vinícius Júnior    a bust so far
Marco Asensio    never came close to his potential so far, meh  
Rodrygo    a bust so far
Gareth Bale    (when is tee time? LOL)
Takefusa Kubo    (youth player who has not taken it up a level whilst out on loan so far)
Lucas Vázquez  (the very fact he was one of their best players last season tells it all, plus he is now 30yo)
Sergio Arribas  youth player
Karim Benzema  (they best pray 10,000 hail Mary's he stays healthy) 
Luka Jovic    dregs IMHO, a bullet dodged   also up for sale
Mariano Díaz  dregs and up for sale


then these 2 come back in summer 2022 from long term loans



sub zero chance I would swap squads with them, I would be going fucking BONKERS if we had that lot



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Italy players believe 'The Professor' Jorginho is a contender for the Ballon d'Or after his stellar campaign with Chelsea and his country... Roberto Mancini has built his impressive team around the midfield pass master



Jorginho has emerged as a Ballon d'Or candidate after a stunning rise during 2020-21

Few players in the Premier League divide opinion more than Jorginho but Italy coach Roberto Mancini has no doubts about the man they call 'the Professor'.

In three seasons at Chelsea, Jorginho has won the Europa League and the Champions League yet still not everybody is convinced.

While nobody would question the 29-year-old's intelligence or passing ability, doubters point to his lack of pace and what they deem his safety-first approach.

He was signed under Maurizio Sarri and never entirely convinced Frank Lampard before growing in importance again for Thomas Tuchel. But for Italy, who approach their first major semi-final for nine years, Jorginho is indispensable.

No player has made more appearances in Mancini's three-year reign and he is key to Italy's possession-based 4-3-3 system. It may raise eyebrows in England, but Jorginho is regarded so highly in Italy that team-mates and media believe he is a contender for the Ballon d'Or.

'It is not up to me to say who should win it, but Jorginho would deserve it,' said Italy forward Lorenzo Insigne, who played with Jorginho at Napoli from 2014-18.

'It's correct that people are talking about him. He has had some brilliant years at Chelsea and we are proud to have a player like him in our team. We call him the Professor and he is a great player.'

He is known as the 'professor' among his Italy team-mates and his knowledge is proving vital

Jorginho's display in the 2-1 quarter-final win over Belgium highlighted his importance.

Whenever an Italy player needed a passing option, Jorginho was there. When Jorginho had the ball, he didn't hang on to it for long. At times, it felt as though he was manoeuvring his team-mates around the pitch like remote-control cars.

'Honestly, I don't think about the Ballon d'Or,' said Jorginho. 'My priority is to think about the team because celebrating with your friends, all together, is much better than celebrating alone.'

If he does climb to the top step of the podium, he will have done it the hard way.

Born in Brazil, Jorginho — full name Jorge Luiz Frello Filho — left his hometown of Imbituba aged 14 to enrol at a football school more than 100 miles away.

By 17, he was playing for the academy of Italian club Hellas Verona where he lodged with other young players in an ancient monastery. 

'I called my mum, crying and saying I wanted to come back and give up football but she just refused. So thanks mum, thanks dad for that because they have played a big part.'

Having survived those experiences, a Wembley semi-final will not worry Jorginho, though he will be keen to improve on his record there of two wins in eight games in the last three years.

Whatever he achieves in the remainder of Euro 2020, Jorginho will never convince everyone at Chelsea.

Yet even if Italy fall to Spain on Tuesday, nothing will shake Mancini's faith in the Professor. 

He lifted the Champions League this season and team-mates feel he is among the world's best


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Probably the last person on earth you would expect to say this 😂

On a serious note, the movement is growing! WE CAN DO THIS!

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2 hours ago, killer1257 said:

He becomes the greatest Chelsea player ever if he wins the ballon dor lol

We have had 3 Ballon d'Or winners on the roster, just never won it whilst playing with us (Lamps almost did, got 2nd place in 2005, if we had not gotten fucked in that Pool CL semi (the no pen call when Hyypiä smashed over Kezman in the box at the end. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr), we likely would have won the CL and Lamps would have won the Ballon d'Or, plus a case could have been made for that 2004-2006 team's 2 year stretch being the greatest of all time, as we would have won the Super Cup and the FWCC for sure in the following months, and we did win the EPL again, back to back. We also god did hard by another Norwegian ref, Hauge, plus numerous other dodgy SF calls, (foreshadowing 2009) against Barca in the 2006 CL with del Horno getting sent off at the Bridge and Eto'o scoring late in a 1-2 loss)

Ruud Gullit 

George Weah

Andriy Shevchenko



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