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We didn't progress lately. Main reason, as i see it, because of the good results. So players rather adapt to Sarri tactics than transform, and because of good results Sarri allowed them to play like this, not pushing them. We play from the back, but too slow and not benefit from it much. We press, but rarely win the ball in dangerous situations, and we move ball fast, but again with very carefull approach, so it didn't lead to anything. All this need to change, hopefully Sarri find out how to do it, current football will bring more upsets. 

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Today has clearly showed the bar which Chelsea must work towards reaching. At this moment we are pretty far away but the overreaction today on this forum is incredible. Sarri has been at the club

I'm telling you now, to all the SarriOut supporters.... you don't know how lucky we are to have a humble manager like Sarri... a man with principle, passion, an expansive free flowing footballing phil

The decline in performances is a lot down to one thing, The lack of training pitch time. He is coming in, trying to teach the squad a totally different brand of football to what the players are a

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Other teams have started figuring out his weakness, man-mark Jorginho and we fall like a pack of cards. Everton did it against us, we had to sub Jorginho out and now Tottenham have done it agaist us.

We need a plan B, and David Luiz/Alonso will be the death of Sarri, every big team keeps attacking us through that wing but we dont seem to see that it is those two that are costing us. Alonso deceives us that he is a great attacker when he cant cross, dribble and is too slow to save his life. Azpilicueta is also getting on my nerves with his reluctance to attack, but at least he knows how to put in a cross like modern fullbacks do these days( not the fraud Alonso)

Guardiola went and got two fast dribbling fullbacks Kyle walker and Mendy and won the league that season. He sold the slow Kolarov (Alonso) and the non-attacking Sagna(Azpi) to get better. Sarri is underestimating the importance of fullbacks as a whole to the system and that will be his downfall if he doesn't take it seriously.

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I still wish he would try the 4-2-3-1 formation with Kante and Jorginho in double pivot against stronger teams. Kante goes too far up when we get hit by counters, so it's up to the Jorginhos, Luizes and Alonsos to track back against speedsters. We saw how that ended up yesterday with Son's goal. Some tactical flexibility needed or we get predictable (aka honeymoon period ends). Kante and Jorginho would still have the license to bomb forward, but more conservatively than in our current system.

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7 minutes ago, manpe said:

I still wish he would try the 4-2-3-1 formation with Kante and Jorginho in double pivot against stronger teams. Kante goes too far up when we get hit by counters, so it's up to the Jorginhos, Luizes and Alonsos to track back against speedsters. We saw how that ended up yesterday with Son's goal. Some tactical flexibility needed or we get predictable (aka honeymoon period ends). Kante and Jorginho would still have the license to bomb forward, but more conservatively than in our current system.

I am down with this

or trying the 

3 1 3 3

we came up with

 

                                                       Kepa

 

  Azpi                               AC or Ampadu (fuck Luiz)                                Rudiger

 

                                  <<<<<<<<<Kante>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

                                             

Barkely                                       Jorginho                                                 Kovacic

 

 

Pedro                                            Giroud                                                    Eden

 

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Something needs to change. Only lost one yet behind Spurs who have lost 3 and one above Arsenal. The stupid drawers are costing us. Yesterday was a disaster as well. 

How we can say we won't spend in January..

Know things have changed but be harder next year if out of Champions league again. 

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2 hours ago, Vesper said:

I am down with this

or trying the 

3 1 3 3

we came up with

 

                                                       Kepa

 

  Azpi                               AC or Ampadu (fuck Luiz)                                Rudiger

 

                                  <<<<<<<<<Kante>>>>>>>>>>>>> 

                                             

Barkely                                       Jorginho                                                 Kovacic

 

 

Pedro                                            Giroud                                                    Eden

 

So Kante the only midfielder with any sort of defensive instinct covering that whole area of that pitch himself and playing without any fullbacks at all? Great... might as well have AVBs 433 which was more or less 3 7 1 when we lost the ball 😂

 

Anyway Sarri still needs time, he said one year we will be able to compete. Has it been a year yet? We've had a good start but yet to see Sarriball in its full because he needs more time to fine tune the squad. Results have been good apart from that but look at the footage of the games its been comibg. Defence has been an issue whenever we've tried to play properly open offensive football for years. Sarri sorts that we have a solid platform at least to go off.

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3 hours ago, manpe said:

I still wish he would try the 4-2-3-1 formation with Kante and Jorginho in double pivot against stronger teams. Kante goes too far up when we get hit by counters, so it's up to the Jorginhos, Luizes and Alonsos to track back against speedsters. We saw how that ended up yesterday with Son's goal. Some tactical flexibility needed or we get predictable (aka honeymoon period ends). Kante and Jorginho would still have the license to bomb forward, but more conservatively than in our current system.

                   Kepa

Azpi     Luiz   Rudi   Alonso

       Kante     Jorginho

Eden       Kovacic      Pedro

               Giroud

why not? but Sarri wont do it

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1 hour ago, Johnnyeye said:

                   Kepa

Azpi     Luiz   Rudi   Alonso

       Kante     Jorginho

Eden       Kovacic      Pedro

               Giroud

why not? but Sarri wont do it

I'd stick Barkley instead of Kova in this formation, he's more of a goal threat and probably a more natural nr. 10. But yes doubt we'll see it.

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6 hours ago, OneMoSalah said:

So Kante the only midfielder with any sort of defensive instinct covering that whole area of that pitch himself and playing without any fullbacks at all? Great... might as well have AVBs 433 which was more or less 3 7 1 when we lost the ball 😂

 

Anyway Sarri still needs time, he said one year we will be able to compete. Has it been a year yet? We've had a good start but yet to see Sarriball in its full because he needs more time to fine tune the squad. Results have been good apart from that but look at the footage of the games its been comibg. Defence has been an issue whenever we've tried to play properly open offensive football for years. Sarri sorts that we have a solid platform at least to go off.

You would have cover and width. You have 3 CBs plus a floating  Kante and also 2 MFs who would also take situational rotatings back for defense if the ball is not on their side. It frees up Kante to be a complete hybrid roaming destroyer and gives you width in all 3 zones.

Also, if we dont immediately and massively upgrade at CB, RW and CF we arent going to compete for anything but EL again next year, with Eden gone and probably transfer bans in place.

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2 hours ago, mccg said:

Maurizio Sarri's reluctance to rotate is a gamble for Chelsea

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/11564365/sarris-selection-gamble

Some good points made tbh. Non-rotation doesn't work in EPL, it is more demanding than Italy and even there it backfired. He NEEDS to stop using key players in games where we can afford to rest them (EL and cup ties). Some players are fatigued already I think and it won't get better with games coming thick and fast. There is no reason for the likes of Emerson, CHO and Christensen to be completely frozen out from EPL fixtures.

Chelsea is a different animal to any club he has managed so far, he must be careful not to alienate a large group of the squad, or else we know how that ends up for managers over here.

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53 minutes ago, manpe said:

Some good points made tbh. Non-rotation doesn't work in EPL, it is more demanding than Italy and even there it backfired. He NEEDS to stop using key players in games where we can afford to rest them (EL and cup ties). Some players are fatigued already I think and it won't get better with games coming thick and fast. There is no reason for the likes of Emerson, CHO and Christensen to be completely frozen out from EPL fixtures.

Chelsea is a different animal to any club he has managed so far, he must be careful not to alienate a large group of the squad, or else we know how that ends up for managers over here.

Yeah and also alot of teams have already worked out the Sarri system ,and i don't know how flexible Sarri will be in tweaking it and or personnel,hopefully we hang in the top4 till january and change afew things?!

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On 27/11/2018 at 5:26 PM, the wes said:

sarri needs to ditch 4-3-3 formation and play the 4-2-3-1 formation 

That formation doesn't work for non counter attack teams, reverting to that formation would render Sarri's appointment and especially what we want him to build null and void.

We commited to this new direction so we have to see it through, no comprises!

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

That formation doesn't work for non counter attack teams, reverting to that formation would render Sarri's appointment and especially what we want him to build null and void.

We commited to this new direction so we have to see it through, no comprises!

I agree that such a formation shouldn't be a permanent fixture, but we cannot play like we did against Spurs away against the top sides because we'll get ripped apart every time.

There has to be some compromise against certain teams. Guardiola adapted his approach this season to combat Liverpool. 

I want Sarri to trust his system and his principles but he also has to show a little flexibility also when its needed.

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3 hours ago, Tomo said:

That formation doesn't work for non counter attack teams, reverting to that formation would render Sarri's appointment and especially what we want him to build null and void.

We commited to this new direction so we have to see it through, no comprises!

First season is never easy. 

I think Liverpool and City didn't look that great the first season either with Klopp and Guardiola. 

Just got to continue, stick to his idea and see if we can get more players that are suited to his style. As this is the style we want moving forward. Have to accept the rough patches here and there. 

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