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this aged well, lololol   on the other hand       LOLOLOLOL yep I am pathetic NOT

Absolute nonsense. 1. Buying a keeper based on their ability to save penalties is absolute nonsense. 2. Jan Oblak has a better penalty save percentage than David de Gea, Manuel Neuer, Thibau

Hahaha you swine I never beat you to the news! 

On top of the other reasons I doubt we will sign Oblak, I really do not think 2 seasons after spending 71m on a GK we will go and spend 90m on one. Particularly when there is the possibility of Onana being available at nearly a third of the price and the possibility that even with a better defence Kepa could still be good enough. Last season showed that he is a good GK and say 9 games this season wont change my mind that he is solely the issue. 

Plus if we did spend 90m on Oblak, what happens to moves for a LB, Havertz and a CB? We will not probably not be able to move everyone on that is surplus to requirements because of Covid, which is going to affect/influence a lot of clubs into not spending unnecessarily or on players that aren’t particularly good value for money. I mean I do feel we will struggle to offload the likes of Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Batshuayi. As well as them it will be tough to move on potentially 2 LBs if the reports are true, a 71m GK as well as a handful of other players likes of Moses, Miazga, Baba and Zappacosta. 

Realistically I think Zouma and Jorginho may be the only two players we can realistically sell with ease in the summer as Spurs are really keen on Kurt and Juventus are always going to be linked to Jorgi although they just signed Arthur and have a plethora of MF options. But even then they are two guys who have been regulars this season and I think the club would rather not sell them as opposed to many of the others who arent involved with the squad. 
 

Yeah we have the deal for Morata coming in and Pasalic too as well as bonuses from Eden’s deal but we have already spent 40m on Kovacic last summer, 33m on Ziyech and 52m on Werner this summer already. Even with Romans belief that the club can find value for money in the market in this situation I doubt we will be spending another 250m+ on Chilwell, Oblak and Havertz. Without even thinking about a CB also. Its just unrealistic to expect this. Hence the likes to Onana and Telles/Tagliafico who would all be considerably cheaper and more attainable have also been constantly linked.

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On 15/07/2020 at 6:30 PM, OneMoSalah said:

On top of the other reasons I doubt we will sign Oblak, I really do not think 2 seasons after spending 71m on a GK we will go and spend 90m on one. Particularly when there is the possibility of Onana being available at nearly a third of the price and the possibility that even with a better defence Kepa could still be good enough. Last season showed that he is a good GK and say 9 games this season wont change my mind that he is solely the issue. 

Plus if we did spend 90m on Oblak, what happens to moves for a LB, Havertz and a CB? We will not probably not be able to move everyone on that is surplus to requirements because of Covid, which is going to affect/influence a lot of clubs into not spending unnecessarily or on players that aren’t particularly good value for money. I mean I do feel we will struggle to offload the likes of Bakayoko, Drinkwater and Batshuayi. As well as them it will be tough to move on potentially 2 LBs if the reports are true, a 71m GK as well as a handful of other players likes of Moses, Miazga, Baba and Zappacosta. 

Realistically I think Zouma and Jorginho may be the only two players we can realistically sell with ease in the summer as Spurs are really keen on Kurt and Juventus are always going to be linked to Jorgi although they just signed Arthur and have a plethora of MF options. But even then they are two guys who have been regulars this season and I think the club would rather not sell them as opposed to many of the others who arent involved with the squad. 
 

Yeah we have the deal for Morata coming in and Pasalic too as well as bonuses from Eden’s deal but we have already spent 40m on Kovacic last summer, 33m on Ziyech and 52m on Werner this summer already. Even with Romans belief that the club can find value for money in the market in this situation I doubt we will be spending another 250m+ on Chilwell, Oblak and Havertz. Without even thinking about a CB also. Its just unrealistic to expect this. Hence the likes to Onana and Telles/Tagliafico who would all be considerably cheaper and more attainable have also been constantly linked.

Oblak is on £363K PW salary. ZERO chance we drop that amount of coin I would think

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2 hours ago, jandomi10 said:
Chelsea are reportedly willing to offer 100m euros (£90.7m) for Atletico Madrid keeper Jan Oblak.

That is just the BBC repeating AS (Spain) rumours:

Chelsea are willing to offer 100m euros (£90.7m) for Atletico Madrid's Slovenian goalkeeper Jan Oblak, 27. (AS - in Spanish)

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Good news is that I dont think Kepa is the kind of guy who will demend 190k salary elsewhere. He would take a big pay cut to be regular somewhere where he is wanted.

Who knows, maybe he broke up with girlfriend because she does not want to live in England? They still have all the photos together on social media which tells a lot.

Drinkwater would rather keep his big salary than kick the ball again. That is why he will stay with us for two more years...

Lets just get 40-50m for Kepa.

If clubs in Spain know it is a mental thing like with Morata they would take him...

50m and Kepa for Oblak?

 

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6 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Lets just get 40-50m for Kepa.

If clubs in Spain know it is a mental thing like with Morata they would take him...

50m and Kepa for Oblak?

I wish it were that easy. :lol:

Even under normal circumstances I don't think there are clubs outside the top3 in Spain who can afford to pay that much for any player and definitely not now with the coronavirus effect on club finances.

So unless Atletico were to agree to a swap with Kepa + money for Oblak I think the only way to offload him is with a loan deal. Valencia are looking to sell Cillessen and they're probably after a new first-choice keeper if they succeed so that could be an option. 

And even if Atletico are open to make a deal, Oblak himself would also need to agree so all in all I don't see how this transfer could work out. At the moment Atletico are closer to being a serious contender for titles and Oblak seems settled in Madrid so it might not be easy to convince him. I really hope a swap does happen because it would solve two problems at once but my expectations are not high.

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6 hours ago, Jype said:

I wish it were that easy. :lol:

Even under normal circumstances I don't think there are clubs outside the top3 in Spain who can afford to pay that much for any player and definitely not now with the coronavirus effect on club finances.

So unless Atletico were to agree to a swap with Kepa + money for Oblak I think the only way to offload him is with a loan deal. Valencia are looking to sell Cillessen and they're probably after a new first-choice keeper if they succeed so that could be an option. 

And even if Atletico are open to make a deal, Oblak himself would also need to agree so all in all I don't see how this transfer could work out. At the moment Atletico are closer to being a serious contender for titles and Oblak seems settled in Madrid so it might not be easy to convince him. I really hope a swap does happen because it would solve two problems at once but my expectations are not high.

Valenica links seem odd as rumours have it basically anyone in their squad is up for sale. Due to the whole situation with Covid and income. I dont think theyd ever be tempted into a loan to buy option for Kepa. Loaning him seems pointless too he has shown he is good enough and with a better defence and organisation I think we will be alright, as we have seen at times this season already. 

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16 hours ago, NikkiCFC said:

Good news is that I dont think Kepa is the kind of guy who will demend 190k salary elsewhere. He would take a big pay cut to be regular somewhere where he is wanted.

Who knows, maybe he broke up with girlfriend because she does not want to live in England? They still have all the photos together on social media which tells a lot.

Drinkwater would rather keep his big salary than kick the ball again. That is why he will stay with us for two more years...

Lets just get 40-50m for Kepa.

If clubs in Spain know it is a mental thing like with Morata they would take him...

50m and Kepa for Oblak?

 

The problem is that we need someone to be a complete crack head and have no knowledge of football whatsoever in order to get rid of Kepa. He is so bad, his stats are now the worst ever in PL history for someone starting more than 6 games. So it is no longer worst in 25, it is now worst 25×28 or worst in 700 (approx.)

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4 hours ago, Special Juan said:

So have Atleti coughed up the 50 odd million yet for that waster Morata? If they haven't, could this be a potential big thing to get Oblak?

Throw them Kepa ontop..

Surely that's job done without spending anymore money from the bank.

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Don't know if it was mentioned already, but I noticed that most of those yt compilations show some extreme saves, when He punches the ball straight and it's retained by defenders. Well, it works in Madrid, but I can already feel the heart attack the ball falling back to six yard line would cause with our CBs…

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58 minutes ago, DDA said:

Throw them Kepa ontop..

Surely that's job done without spending anymore money from the bank.

I dunno, I think we have to be careful about sending Kepa to Atleti. I mean, can you seriously see Costa and Simone putting up with some of Kepa's performances? If he replicated his form from here, there, I could honestly see some sort of real life Ramsey Bolton shit with him ending up in a Reek 1 shirt by the end of the season. 

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2 hours ago, King Kante said:

I dunno, I think we have to be careful about sending Kepa to Atleti. I mean, can you seriously see Costa and Simone putting up with some of Kepa's performances? If he replicated his form from here, there, I could honestly see some sort of real life Ramsey Bolton shit with him ending up in a Reek 1 shirt by the end of the season. 

I dont think Kepa would be an issue there (or here with a better DF and organisation...). They are going to concede half as many chances as we do on average at least. Plus they have a settled back 4 and midfield that doesn't change every 2nd game. I dont think Real Madrid were keen on Kepa for no reason, just like I dont think we dropped 71m on him for no reason. There is something there. Not as good as Oblak is or Courtois is or Cech was but reasonably talented and can be a very good GK.

Got a good laugh at the bit in bold 🤣 Reek 1

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9 hours ago, Special Juan said:

So have Atleti coughed up the 50 odd million yet for that waster Morata? If they haven't, could this be a potential big thing to get Oblak?

Morata is tracking to 22 to 24 goals over a full season's minutes (16 in 2700)

and has scored big goals for them (helped knock out the dippers)

he has 4 prime years left or so

they are not outraged with him, I would think

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16 minutes ago, Vesper said:

explain to me how we are going to pay Oblak's salary (£358K PW net, over £600K gross PW) without crushing our wage structure

He is on £185K p/w, net.

https://www.elconfidencial.com/deportes/futbol/2019-04-17/jan-oblak-renovacion-atletico-simeone-sueldo-madrid_1950262/

 

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5 hours ago, petre.ispirescu said:

that link is bullshit, as are 90% of Spanish football sites

his salary is VASTLY higher

10m euros NET works out to £175K (not £185K) PW NET at current FOREX rates 

even if you flip flop and make his net his gross from these numbers below (as these below are his NET, which is how La Liga salaries are listed, but I will play along and say they are GROSS)

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it still means he NETS (based off current FOREX rate from a €422K PW gross) it still works out to £227K PW NET

ergo 

that article is fucked

 

on edit the numbers above are gross

so his salary is (at current FOREX) £363K PW gross

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