Jase 43,476 Posted August 21, 2016 Share Posted August 21, 2016 Chelsea vs BurnleyPRE-MATCH DISCUSSION AND LIVE CHAT2016/17 Premier League Match 327th August, Saturday, 2016Stamford Bridge15:00 Kick Off (UK time) Link to post Share on other sites
thekid9 418 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Tibo Ivanovic Cahill Terry Azpi Kante Willian Fabregas Hazard Michy Costa Link to post Share on other sites
DYC. 7,542 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Only one way to deal with this bunch at home. Attack the **** out of em. Link to post Share on other sites
the wes 7,212 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Chelsea are without a home clean sheet in 13 games in all competitions, which is their longest run since August 1961 – when the run stretched to 27 games this needs to change against Burnley get the finger out Chelsea and buy a cb Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,476 Posted August 23, 2016 Author Share Posted August 23, 2016 After more than a year, Matic faces the same team that arguably broke him. Link to post Share on other sites
Pizy 15,911 Posted August 23, 2016 Share Posted August 23, 2016 Cesc in for Oscar and hopefully Willian will be good to go and replace Pedro. If not then Moses out there. We need a wide player who takes on his fullback and not Pedro who is best running on to the ball from a pass. Burnley just won against Liverpool despite having only 20% possession. They'll likely try the same here at the Bridge. Sit deep and soak up pressure while trying to counter. This is why Cesc is a must in front of Kante and Matic. Oscar simply isn't crafty enough to break down a parked bus. And for god sake, please no more Matic playing the box to box role. He's absolutely awful going forward. Just please make him stay deep, Conte, please! We need that double shield if Cesc plays. Link to post Share on other sites
Laylabelle 8,793 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 8 hours ago, the wes said: Chelsea are without a home clean sheet in 13 games in all competitions, which is their longest run since August 1961 – when the run stretched to 27 games this needs to change against Burnley get the finger out Chelsea and buy a cb It's pretty crap! Knew was bad but didn't think that bad. Maybe can break the run..Probably not! Hopefully play better then yesterday! Link to post Share on other sites
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 If we start both Kante and Matic and keep Cesc on the bench at home against Burnley, it's going to be another tough match, and deservedly so. Link to post Share on other sites
the wes 7,212 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 45 minutes ago, Laylabelle said: It's pretty crap! Knew was bad but didn't think that bad. Maybe can break the run..Probably not! Hopefully play better then yesterday! I miss the days when are Defence was like Fort Knox Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo 20,989 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 This is a tough conundrum, Burnley played with two banks of four vs Liverpool, so logic suggest's this lineup -----------------------------Courtois---------------- Usual back four getting depressing writing -----------------------Kante------Cesc----------------- Willian-------------Costa------Bats--------Hazard That will give us the best chance of creating inroads against them and we could potentially get a couple early on, what worries me however is the rare occasions Burnley had the ball against Liverpool they looked capable of scoring every single time, and we could be exposed on the counter, as much as we could get a couple early on we could easily get into early trouble too. Link to post Share on other sites
Laylabelle 8,793 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 8 hours ago, the wes said: I miss the days when are Defence was like Fort Knox Our unbeaten home record k it had to end but last year was bloody daft at home..Tough game espically as we seem good at making games harder Link to post Share on other sites
LAM09 5,981 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 19 hours ago, thekid9 said: Tibo Ivanovic Cahill Terry Azpi Kante Willian Fabregas Hazard Michy Costa Swap Moses for Willian and I would go along with that. Link to post Share on other sites
Pizy 15,911 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 I'm not so sure it's wise at all to play with two up top and surrender numbers in midfield against a side that will try to smother that area of the pitch. Especially with Cesc in the "2" with Kante. Cesc would get harassed and rushed when he has the ball and be overrun defensively . Kante would then have too much to do and the back 4 would get exposed. To me Matic and Kante should start, Matic should be told strictly to be a destroyer who just focuses on tackling and recycling, and Cesc as the playmaker. 4-3-3 I pray we don't see the usual Chelsea trait of playing down to the opposition and allowing them to hang around. Big teams impose themselves on small teams and often times blow them away. We can't allow Burnley to come to our house and let them have it exactly as they want it: a slow, laborious match where they sit back and counter attack. Link to post Share on other sites
Fulham Broadway 15,306 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 Both teams to score, best odds 7/5 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/chelsea-v-burnley/both-teams-to-score Link to post Share on other sites
LDN Blue 7,903 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 15 hours ago, the wes said: I miss the days when are Defence was like Fort Knox 86 home games unbeaten. That number I won't forget because it was just incredible how long it went on for! It was a psychological boost for all our home games and was a stat no-one could argue about. Then to lose it to those scumbags scouse pricks made it even worse Link to post Share on other sites
Iggy Doonican 4,186 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 4 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said: Both teams to score, best odds 7/5 http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/chelsea-v-burnley/both-teams-to-score 1979 FB still the funniest thing I've ever seen at the Bridge. Burnley at home Ron Harris takes this kid out and FB you know what I'm talking about he near enough cuts this kid in two it wasn't late it was borderline ABH. This young kid is looking for revenge he does the same thing to Chopper and Chopper to say the least makes a meal of it the kid gets booked Ronnie gets up laughs and gives the Shed the thumbs up. We could wax lyrical about that it's proper football and proper Chelsea but well frankly it was. Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 We don't have the midfielders to start with the 4-2-4 formation. You need two complete midfielders and besides Kante we have none. It should only be an option when we desperately need a goal. I'm fairly certain we will see Kante-Matic-Fabs in a midfield 3. Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Colored Sky 1,799 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 7 hours ago, Hybrid Angel said: We don't have the midfielders to start with the 4-2-4 formation. You need two complete midfielders and besides Kante we have none. It should only be an option when we desperately need a goal. I'm fairly certain we will see Kante-Matic-Fabs in a midfield 3. What ? We played in 14/15 with two midfielders and had excellent results, especially in the first part. And I think Kante is even better than then-Matic. You're making Fabregas more liability than he actually is. If there's one game we can go all out attack (and should) is Burnley. Would be a shame to drop Michy after his run and Cesc is the man to unlock that structure of Burnley defence. But I fully expect that Bats will be dropped for Matic or maybe Oscar since he hasn't played in mid-week. Link to post Share on other sites
Hybrid Angel 2,130 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 30 minutes ago, Blue Colored Sky said: What ? We played in 14/15 with two midfielders and had excellent results, especially in the first part. And I think Kante is even better than then-Matic. You're making Fabregas more liability than he actually is. If there's one game we can go all out attack (and should) is Burnley. Would be a shame to drop Michy after his run and Cesc is the man to unlock that structure of Burnley defence. But I fully expect that Bats will be dropped for Matic or maybe Oscar since he hasn't played in mid-week. A 4-2-3-1 is technically still a midfield three and completely different to how the midfield in the 4-2-4 operates. Midfielders in the latter formation need a good balance of pace, agility, defensive ability, technique and passing ability. Kante is the only one who fits the bill. We looked really bad starting with this formation in pre season for a reason. With a Nainggolan/Joao Mario however things would be different. Link to post Share on other sites
Chelsea4 1,521 Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 17 hours ago, Tomo said: This is a tough conundrum, Burnley played with two banks of four vs Liverpool, so logic suggest's this lineup -----------------------------Courtois---------------- Usual back four getting depressing writing -----------------------Kante------Cesc----------------- Willian-------------Costa------Bats--------Hazard That will give us the best chance of creating inroads against them and we could potentially get a couple early on, what worries me however is the rare occasions Burnley had the ball against Liverpool they looked capable of scoring every single time, and we could be exposed on the counter, as much as we could get a couple early on we could easily get into early trouble too. Fabregas in a 2 man midfield will never work it didn't even work againts Bristol Rovers. Link to post Share on other sites
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