Muzchap 8,814 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 The Premier League was a 4-4-2 league devoid of any real tactics. Any deviation from that would look out of the ordinary. His tactics weren't brilliant in Italy and they aren't in Spain. He wins because he manages good clubs with excellent players and is able to motivate them to perform to their maximum. He's a great manager but not the tactician that people build him up to be.Heh but one thing he is though and that's a WINNER My view - fuck tactical genius, I want winning football again....!!! And when we had Robben and Duff we played attractive WINNING football - I just want us to win again... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santiago. 1,500 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Any team that plays better football than us. Attractive football? Arsenal? Ten points behind. Ten points behind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzchap 8,814 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Mourinho's quality being questioned??? Really?He has emmence tactical ability. Every single training session he records and studies in his special book he carries with him. One of his best assests is his man management and his motivational skills, but saying he is tactically inept is crazyHutcho - thought it was immense not emmence, think you're getting confused with eminence #SpellingPolizei 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 Hutcho - thought it was immense not emmence, think you're getting confused with eminence #SpellingPolizei I am an economics student. We don't worry about spelling things lol. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cadenza666 221 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 RT@DuncanCastlesA deluge of newspaper, radio and television reports this week informed us that Jose Mourinho had announced that his next job would be in the Premier League. An odd way to report a press conference exchange in which Mourinho, asked about when he would manage again in the Premier League, replied as follows. JM: “After Real Madrid, and I love everything.” Q. When will that be? JM: “We will see. But I love everything and – normally, normally – it will be my next step.” That “normally” is an important caveat that reflects the possibility of Mourinho taking up an approach to work at Paris Saint-Germain next season.guess hes off to PSG, seems like too many hurdles to bring Mourinho back Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 9,790 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 His use of Etoo at Inter was both novel and mightily effective and his tactics against Barcelona were spot on. It's easy to say 'well Robbie did it', but look at Wenger and Ferguson who were both outplayed by that Barca team.I think by the logic you're using you could diminish any coach's tactical achievements. It happens in every sport. Look at basketball where Phil Jackson has won 11 titles and has received plenty of acclaim for his tactical nous, but there's always people prepared to say 'well he had Jordan' or 'he had Shaq' or 'he had Kobe and Shaq' or 'he had Kobe'. Any team that plays Barcelona sits deep and plays counter-attacking football. Even the games Mourinho has won against them have followed that template. Giving Mourinho credit for doing what most managers do makes little sense. In fact he got battered 5-0 the one time he tried to play a high-line against Barcelona and hasn't tried to push up against them ever since.But you have to acknowledge Phil Jackson was fortunate enough to coach 4 of arguably the top 10-15 players in NBA history in Jordan, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe. I'd bet on any competent coach leading teams led by those players to glory (maybe not 11 championships but not too far off). Talented coach but fortunate to have managed great players.My point is Mourinho is an excellent man manager (in doubt this season at Madrid) and motivator. Tactician? Not so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zolayes 14,489 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I am an economics student. We don't worry about spelling things lol. well economists have fucked the World's Finances ...so spelling is a trivial matter. It is a pity simple Arithmetic is beyond them 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 well economists have fucked the World's Finances ...so spelling is a trivial matter. It is a pity simple Arithmetic is beyond themLol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daBlackMamba7 174 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Any team that plays Barcelona sits deep and plays counter-attacking football. Even the games Mourinho has won against them have followed that template. Giving Mourinho credit for doing what most managers do makes little sense. In fact he got battered 5-0 the one time he tried to play a high-line against Barcelona and hasn't tried to push up against them ever since.But you have to acknowledge Phil Jackson was fortunate enough to coach 4 of arguably the top 10-15 players in NBA history in Jordan, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe. I'd bet on any competent coach leading teams led by those players to glory (maybe not 11 championships but not too far off). Talented coach but fortunate to have managed great players.My point is Mourinho is an excellent man manager (in doubt this season at Madrid) and motivator. Tactician? Not so much.Please, Please, Please...Dont say things about the Zen master if you dont know much about teams and players he coached...How many rings did Jordan win without Big Phil?...Im a Laker fan, and how many rings do you think we have won after Phil?, the first time Phil Jackson left the Lakers, we were so dreadful that Kobe asked to be traded, why didnt the almighty Kobe(whom i adore) not win everything for the Lakers himself, or why he is not wining it for us now...Shaq only won the one ring with and amazing D Wade after he left the lakers...How many rings has the best player of right now (Lebron) won? just one? and he took him being two years with D wade and Bosh to pull it off...I bet if the Zen master had coached Lebron, we would have been counting the number of rings they have both won...I know he had some of the best players of our time, but do you also notice that he seems to get the very best from the best players of our time?...Somehow great managers always tried to get their success looked down upon because the had the best player in their locker room, or maybe it was because of that manager that the player turned out that great...Mourinho: in my opinion had a lot to do with making Lamps, JT, Drogba and Cech into the world beaters they turned out to be....Fergie: Giggs, Beckham, C Ronaldo...The list goes onBig Phil...Shaq was the leagues beast and best big man, but couldnt win a ring until he played for the Zen, master... Kobe was an arrogant teenager who Big Phil described as uncoachable and turned him into the BLACK MAMBA that we have today Michael Jordan...How many rings did he win with big Phil?...All 6 that he has...Phil Jackson as a basketball coach/manager is the GREATEST there has EVER been, and i am not sure i will see another GREATER in my lifetime....Thank you Zen Master for everything... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Any team that plays Barcelona sits deep and plays counter-attacking football. Even the games Mourinho has won against them have followed that template. Giving Mourinho credit for doing what most managers do makes little sense. In fact he got battered 5-0 the one time he tried to play a high-line against Barcelona and hasn't tried to push up against them ever since.But you have to acknowledge Phil Jackson was fortunate enough to coach 4 of arguably the top 10-15 players in NBA history in Jordan, Pippen, Shaq and Kobe. I'd bet on any competent coach leading teams led by those players to glory (maybe not 11 championships but not too far off). Talented coach but fortunate to have managed great players.My point is Mourinho is an excellent man manager (in doubt this season at Madrid) and motivator. Tactician? Not so much.Like I said previously, I've got a feeling you could diminish any manager's tactical nous if you wanted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bushman 2,043 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Several newspapers hinted Jose is not coming to Chelsea.So,don´t get your hopes too high for Jose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xPetrCechx 13,323 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Several newspapers hinted Jose is not coming to Chelsea.So,don´t get your hopes too high for Jose.Source? Any shit N.papers? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amblève. 4,995 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Phil Jackson as a basketball coach/manager is the GREATEST there has EVER been, and i am not sure i will see another GREATER in my lifetime....Thank you Zen Master for everything...Pop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bushman 2,043 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Source? Any shit N.papers?Several papers mentioned other potential managers. Try to Google it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
xPetrCechx 13,323 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Several papers mentioned other potential managers. Try to Google it.I Know... Conte, Pellegrini... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robdog 2,084 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Please, Please, Please...Dont say things about the Zen master if you dont know much about teams and players he coached...How many rings did Jordan win without Big Phil?...Im a Laker fan, and how many rings do you think we have won after Phil?Phil Jackson as a basketball coach/manager is the GREATEST there has EVER been, and i am not sure i will see another GREATER in my lifetime....Thank you Zen Master for everything...I am a Laker fan too I remember when Del Harris coached the Lakers & they won 60 games. How many rings did they win? ZERO IMHO Jose Mourinho is our Phil Jackson. True he might stunt our youth & we might pay for more expensive options, but the Man knows how to win Titles. FACTSo I will go to my local thrift store & buy some manure gear for the 2nd leg @ ole crapfort & cheer for manure, knowing that a manure win will get Chelsea a step closer to the Return of The Special One. (yes it does make for an Epic Moving title) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bushman 2,043 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I Know... Conte, Pellegrini...That´s it.The way I see it. Roman is not, at least it seems to me, the type that would hire Jose whom he dismissed once.Hopefully, I am mistaken here though. Jose would be the best, I feel. His character, behavior just sits well for Chelsea. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hutcho 8,443 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 He's coming/ He's not coming He's coming/ He's not coming.If i didn't know any better i might think that the newspapers don't have a clue what they are talking about... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
butchercoat 60 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I am an economics student. We don't worry about spelling things lol. That really would explain an awful lot that had been concerning me since 2008...lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Laylabelle 8,430 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 He's coming/ He's not coming He's coming/ He's not coming.If i didn't know any better i might think that the newspapers don't have a clue what they are talking about... Same!I'd also think they like to make up stories or twist things but nah surley that cant be right but they are magic and seem to know more about whats going on then the owners and board and peple themselves do Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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