The Mourinho Thread

[Henrique 9,133]

To be honest I think in all the 7 defeats this season, during match thread, people who are here saying we played a good match yesteday were alwasy saying "brilliant football" before the opponent started scoring goals.

Football yesteday was pretty bad. For the 1st half the team played a decent football, but not for a team that is 16th in the table. Team lacked urgency and intensity, when you are in this situation you MUST win, its not like the team is sitting confortably on top of the word. Imagine you are playing a UCL semi-final, and just lost the first game and must win the match, thats not the kind of football you are expected to play.

Second half Stoke scored early. Team kept playing that lazy football, like they were winning the game. Only after 20 minutes into the second half, when Fabregas and Oscar, and later Remy, were introduced, the team started to really press Stoke, but anyone who can read the game understand the guys were playing with zero tactical plan.

What we saw was Fabregas, William and specially Hazard trying to save the game by their own. Team pressed the panic button, and adopted a high pressure defensive style and Stoke couldn't create anything. The team almost scored, but the best chances were created when the team were playing without tactics and discipline, it was just a bunch of good footballers trying to score a goal.

I asked myself why the team can't start the game doing high pressure and huge intensity. A team like Stoke would suffer a lot playing against a side playing like that. What we saw yesterday has been happening since 2013, team start slow, lacks intensity, and when realize they MUST score a goal there is no tactical plan at all, just pressing random button, think about that PSG game when Mourinho introduced Torres, Etoo, Ba at the same time, and few were created from that, but its not always that you get a lucky goal like that.

To be honest football from yesterday was pretty much the same as what we saw during many matches last season, but there is a big difference: last season the team was top of the league because of individual brilliance coming from attacking players, specially Hazard, who won at least 15 points by his own, but this season his football became pretty awful, despite what many people are saying, he was really really really nad yesterday. Yesterday he was actually trying and trying to do something, unlike other games were he was hidding, but at the end of the day he was creating few chances and making terrible decisions and killing attacking options, and was trying to play alone in the last minutes.

Perhaps people in this forum who are stunned about the current situation should go back in this thread, because since months ago many members here pointed about the problems in this teams, but many just dismissed those complains and were changing the name of this topic to "Moaning Thread", or pointing the team was top of the league.

Success is dangerous because it usually makes you hide your problems. For a long term success you must keep changing, but the moment the manager believes there is nothing to learn from others.

[BXL70 395]

As I said in an earlier post, the debate is now closed, whatever the manager: there is no way now we can finish in the top 4.

All we can now hope for is to avoid relegation and humiliation in the CL.

Instead Jose and the players will be fully accountable for the outcomes.

Let's continue with the current manager and its team. Too late.

Chelsea has now nothing much more to loose. Would we be relegated or humiliated in the CL, all the blame will come on the manager and players.

[quickpassnmove 924]

As I said in an earlier post, the debate is now closed, whatever the manager: there is no way now we can finish in the top 4.

All we can now hope for is to avoid relegation and humiliation in the CL.

Instead Jose and the players will be fully accountable for the outcomes.

Let's continue with the current manager and its team. Too late.

Chelsea has now nothing much more to loose. Would we be relegated or humiliated in the CL, all the blame will come on the manager and players.

sounds like someone wants Chelsea players transferred elsewhere.

[Rmpr 8,977]

Also, people need to stop being drama queen and say we need to avoid relegation. It makes the entire post look ridiculous even if other points are fair minded...

[ChelseaFanUK 1,014]

I agree top 4 is not going to happen now. Just need too many teams to have shockingly bad runs while we have an awesome winning run.

Will Jose go? Im 60/40 that he wont after sleeping on it. But he is definitely on a knife edge

[Jase 43,479]

Because it allows the club to say "Oh look, we gave our manager who won the league last season the maximum amount of time to achieve the minimum objective". (I would also imagine it voids a massive chunk of Mourinho's pay-off)

I think it's more about the club not wanting to scare off the best replacement for Mourinho, not really about the CL. The fact he has lasted this long tells me the club are really trying to change their image about being trigger happy with managers.

That is true but if we really to rid ourselves of that reputation, then we need to do a lot better than just sticking with the manager till end of the season. Otherwise, sacking Mourinho next May (god I hope not because that would mean we stay rubbish till May) is not much of a difference to when we sack Ancelotti after one poor season.

[Laylabelle 9,296]

Palace are beating the same Liverpool team that battered us in our own ground

Yay!!! Though we did lose to them as well...we're not alone

[Jase 43,479]

David Moyes might be available soon. Getting the sack apparently.

[stroey 2,525]

watched the U21 game vs Liverpool

[borriske 330]

David Moyes might be available soon. Getting the sack apparently.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

Mourinho should not get sacked, isn't the morale of the players already down, a change in manager and we will be in a crisis

[cfcs most wanted 657]

The Board has at last decided to back a manager. If it changes, we are sure not to get any consistency for over 5 years

[BXL70 395]

Mou should now shut the f... up. I 've had enough of his rants and arrogance.

Let us now stick to this team and his manager. It is too late to change: forget top 4, forget CL. We must now try to avoid relegation.

Manager and players will all bear full responsibility for the outcome.

Big clean up will follow up.

[LDN Blue 7,903]

The Board has at last decided to back a manager. If it changes, we are sure not to get any consistency for over 5 years

Yeah but tbh, who does have consistency? Wenger aside, who else is sticking around longer than 5 years lately? No clubs in the PL right now. Once Wenger goes that's it, even Arsenal will rotate managers on a 2-5 year basis.

I say this with the opinion of still wanting Mourinho here as well. But I'm not buying into this whole stability argument as a reason to keep him, I'm saying he's the best manager for us and that's why he should stay. Consistency means nothing if it's continuous failure.

[Blue Colored Sky 1,807]

watched the U21 game vs Liverpool

About to drop the best RnB album this year ...

[ZanSnake 1,211]

watched the U21 game vs Liverpool

Hopefully means he's seen Musonda, Colkett and RLC, and the talent that is too offer in our youth -- finally.

[cfcs most wanted 657]

[Tomo 21,681]

Ten behind Spurs and six behind Liverpool, if we don't get top four chances are one of those two will, so we need to keep them two at a relative distance.

Liverpool just aren't that good (the fact they won at The Bridge says more about our current form then anything good about them) and Pochettino teams tend to burn out after February.

If (and I accept that's a massive if) we can sort ourselves out, top 4 isn't as impossible a task as I thought, just need to buck our ideas up come hell or high water, beating Norwich and somehow nicking it at WHL will be a good start.