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I'm genuinely surprised by how some don't seem to realize how bad the situation really is. This is by far worse than any of the 'bad runs' by any of our previous managers. It's our worst start to a se

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Does this mean Baba Rahman, Kenedy, RLC will be given real chances? And does this further mean, no more inverted Fullbacks, and no more Ivan? A greater effort to playing better football? And new ideas on how to approach matches, with different formations/tactics?

Let's not get it twisted, we were (and still are) in free-fucking-fall. We were beat resoundingly by the likes of Crystal Palace, Everton, Bournemouth, Stoke (in the league), Southampton, and played off the fucking park by Man City. None of our loses were competitive in the slightest. We weren't losing these games with 10 shots on target, horrendous refereeing, or any other JM type excuse. We were thoroughly out played for each and every single one of our loses.

We're in the middle of December. This team were not on the cusp of turning things around any time soon. He was given all the time in the world to turn this horror show around, and he simply hasn't. It's that simple. Our leading goal scorer was Own Goals. Oscar/Cesc/Hazard/Costa all looked like strangers out there month after month, with no direction on how formulate cohesive attacks. Our defense, the one aspect JM hangs his hat on, are in shambles. Every CB combination has failed, Ivan is an undisputed starter, and the team continues to lose the midfield battle week after week.

There was no light at the end of the tunnel. I simply won't entertain any revisionist history 6-12 months from now, things are dire man. We're one freaking point above the relegation zone.

Having said all that, it's still a shame it didn't work out. You can tell Roman wanted to achieve some sense of stability. He was damned if he fired JM in October and damned now that he's waited this long to pull the trigger. Some may say Roman and his minions should have better foresight and all that jazz, but that's a discussion for another day.

JM was telling us everything we wanted to hear in his first season, everything. But the moment shit hit the fan, he simply retreated back to his old tricks.

It simply HAD to be done.

Still like the guy though. Crazy innit?

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Cheers mate. Honestly I've been reading this thread for a while and it became a bit of an echo chamber of about 6 people slagging him off so at least you'll get a few fresh voices saying new things over the next few days.

On the one hand the board have done a tremendous job over the last few years and I'm tremendously excited about the new stadium. But this summer was a major failure. We sold a great goalkeeper to a major rival against the manager's wishes. We signed a player he clearly didn't yearn for whilst making an absolute pig's ear of the John Stones deal (seriously, whoever 'masterminded' that deal did just about everything wrong).

For every one of Jose's mistakes made after the season kicked off, the board made at least the same amount in the summer. Now they've managed to sack our best manager of all time again and pissed off a lot of Chelsea supporters, some of whom they need to keep very onside in the next 12 months. Utter shambles.

Nice to hear. Fresh voices are always nice.

The board really didn't do that great a jon though tbh. The only really good bit of business was Zouma and Azpi. Cesc went cheap cause Barca didn't need him, Costa had a release clause and Matic was unproven. We've been bargain hunters and a selling club lately and it has clearly hurt us. Don't get me started on the John Stones deal. Absolutely awful. This will alienate a lot of fans from the board, Roman better not mess up or he'll have a mess on his hands.

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Mourinho's philosophy has always struck me as:

"I've already shown you guys how to stop "x" team from hurting us. Go out and beat "x" team. After all, we have more quality than they do and that eventually will tell"

It was instructive to listen to Mourinho wax lyrical about all the preparation he had done to ensure our players knew about all the means Leicester could score and win, as he's done several times this season.

But was what alarming about Chelsea was not Leicester's goals against us, but how clueless we looked in their final 3rd till they scored! Mourinho hardly ever speaks about that side, aside from some basic stuff here and there. "I told him to make some movement" How can players make movements when there is no space? Or when no one is attacking space? Or when the passing is so slow and ponderous? That's training ground stuff and we have to ask why we hardly ever saw it in almost 3 years.

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Mourinho's philosophy has always struck me as:

"I've already shown you guys how to stop "x" team from hurting us. Go out and beat "x" team. After all, we have more quality than they do and that eventually will tell"

It was instructive to listen to Mourinho wax lyrical about all the preparation he had done to ensure our players knew about all the means Leicester could score and win, as he's done several times this season.

But was what alarming about Chelsea was not Leicester's goals against us, but how clueless we looked in their final 3rd till they scored! Mourinho hardly ever speaks about that side, aside from some basic stuff here and there. "I told him to make some movement" How can players make movements when there is no space? Or when no one is attacking space? Or when the passing is so slow and ponderous? That's training ground stuff and we have to ask why we hardly ever saw it in almost 3 years.

and yet Steve Holland said they worked hard in training on movement in attack.

Another betrayal by players perhaps?

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and yet Steve Holland said they worked hard in training on movement in attack.

Another betrayal by players perhaps?

And that movement is evident in a lot of play....except for Costa. I have no idea what went wrong with him but his movement has been atrocious in every regard this season.

I get that some people want to paint Jose as being pragmatic to the point of not wanting to score goals, but I don't think anyone can have his level of success without knowing how to do things at both ends of the pitch.

Maybe he 'closed us down' too early last season so we coasted to the title (certainly holds some merit) but we simply didn't get going this season and a lot of that has to do with us not improving the squad in the summer. No team can stand still off the pitch and expect to get better on it.

The club stood still in the summer and Jose never had the tools necessary to mount a title defence. It shouldn't have gotten this bad though.

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And that movement is evident in a lot of play....except for Costa. I have no idea what went wrong with him but his movement has been atrocious in every regard this season.

I get that some people want to paint Jose as being pragmatic to the point of not wanting to score goals, but I don't think anyone can have his level of success without knowing how to do things at both ends of the pitch.

Maybe he 'closed us down' too early last season so we coasted to the title (certainly holds some merit) but we simply didn't get going this season and a lot of that has to do with us not improving the squad in the summer. No team can stand still off the pitch and expect to get better on it.

The club stood still in the summer and Jose never had the tools necessary to mount a title defence. It shouldn't have gotten this bad though.

Costa came back with a muffin top. As wee Pat said, if hed stuck in half the one on ones hed had with keepers we'd be talking about the top four. Substitute the lairy one with Lewandowski and we'd be in the top four.

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and yet Steve Holland said they worked hard in training on movement in attack.

Another betrayal by players perhaps?

And what does "movement" have to do with being able to build an attacking philosophy? Not much. Movement isn't going to break down a team playing low block for 90 minutes. And besides, movement is but only one facet of building an attacking philosophy like for instance, keeping the defensive line in building an organised defense.

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Idiots. Atmosphere next Saturday will be fucking choking, lots of booing; lots of Mou chants; probably irrational but considering who Jose is to this club completely understandable, whereas nearly all of the players couldn't care less at the end of the day. Many will be booed, completely deservedly - the players can't win whether they perform well or badly now.

I'm still disgusted. Fucking vilified even, because it should be on the players, but no we took the easy way out and got rid of the manager instead. He oozes blue, unless we appoint a former player no other manager will come close to that and even then not to the same skillset as Mourinho and quite frankly we're rotten to the core as a club now, just another plastic facade with no identity.

Chrismada9; exactly what I feel, cheers for the video.

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