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I actually think Mourinho won't start Ivanovic tomorrow. I'm 99% sure.

When Mourinho praises a player (he still rates) that's seriously out of form before a match. That particular player usually doesn't start that match. It's more like a reverse psychology aimed at relieving pressure on that player in question and at the opposition tactics .

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I actually think Mourinho won't start Ivanovic tomorrow. I'm 99% sure.

When Mourinho praises a player (he still rates) that's seriously out of form before a match. That particular player usually doesn't start that match. It's more like a reverse psychology aimed at relieving pressure on that player in question and at the opposition tactics .

Anyone remembers how he praised Terry before WBA match?

And Terry started that West Brom game...

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Makes sense.

When the motivational aspect of his management wears thin there aren't tactics/systems to fall back on.

Well here's the thing.

@Jason, mentioned how he must evolved and adapt.

I think this is true, especially of his attitude.

His attitude that at one point in time was greatly known as motivational, today it ain't.

However, he has some things that he can do. Either change his attitude right away which might not happen, or seriously take the road of youth.

I think taking the road of youth might work because if he gambles on them and they become good, these young players will love him.

Take a look at Lampard and Drogba. They was nothing before he came, but because he pushed them to be better these players later had big admiration for him.

Now he tries to do the same to more established players or players with mad skills; It has been backfiring, it happened at RM and now is happening here.

If Mourinho is to adapt and change, then the quickest solution that can eventually have great benefits in the long run is to do what he said before, play the young ones!

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Who knew the key to getting away with gross incompetence was communication. Ivanovic has figured it all out, employees around the world need to learn the game. You can be bad at your job all you want, just as long as you discuss your terrible performance with the manager. Ivanovic just might be the greatest all time :clap::worship:.

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Ugh, the implied stuff. Dude, i dislike some of Mou's antics. But i love Chelsea. Still, your passive aggressive posts make it clear you think i am a plastic, even though I have been here for years. Do I like Hazard, of course, is it it a sin? He is indeed belgian, but he was our hest for a couple of years as well. Of course, its an interpretation, but some clarity on your part would be very helpfull. Now, i cant help but feel there is some hate, mate. It really bugs me btw. Especially because i do like ya.

, no passive aggresiion here. Like you too fella :D and we bonded over palestinian solidarity. I have a fault when it comes to chelsea I become partizan belgrade/hitler/stalin/ultra since 1977 or thereabouts. I hace had qiite a few beers now. You are top geezer tom. Plastic Bertrand. Cest plane pour moi .ktbffh.

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, no passive aggresiion here. Like you too fella :D and we bonded over palestinian solidarity. I have a fault when it comes to chelsea I become partizan belgrade/hitler/stalin/ultra since 1977 or thereabouts. I hace had qiite a few beers now. You are top geezer tom. Plastic Bertrand. Cest plane pour moi .ktbffh.

Bloody hell F.B. Plastic Bertrand forgot about that Hou Hou Hou Hou. I had that song on the 20 Of Another Kind Album. God i'm getting old.

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Because they are glory hunters protected by a glory hunter who runs this forum which could not collect even a pound from its members last month. Mourinho brought them glory, so no matter what he does they will follow, adore and protect him like any pathetic glory hunter would do.

this must have been one of the most ignorant posts I've ever seen in this forum and I've seen my share of them.

The money donated for the forum is a low blow and to know people who support the manager are now called glory hunters surprises me.

Mourinho lost a lot of my support and I wouldn't mind if he left tomorrow, but I won't say whoever still supports him 100% is a glory hunter. Where is the glory in the first place? Most posting people doesn't support him in the job anymore, so if anyone wants glory here they're likely to start offending others and talking about money if you ask me.

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EDIT: I am so over the posts I just read that all I want to do is delete the last 10 pages. Everyone is in the wrong. There is not a single quality post. Only bickering. That's from both sides of the spectrum by the way!

You better not delete my post about vaca frita, you bastard.

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I will quote this post, to make some things clear.

First, I think it would be nice if the staff can share with the rest of the forum, what they believe is the ideal talkchelsea, and how the things you pointed in that another post are related with Jose Mourinho, because its seems you just said the staff don't see as a good thing people saying a bad word about Mourinho.

Second, I want to express my point of view about Mourinho. You might be glad that Mourinho is the manager, and the whole stadium might chant his name tomorrow. I realized that many fans have a special relationship with Mourinho. I remember that TOPTB said one time something like this "there is no better man in the world than Jose Mourinho to manage a southwest London football club", and he also said that only people who really undertand what Chelsea is, would undertand what he was talking about.

I don't pretend to undertand what a sothewest London club is, since as I foreign, and an outsider, I cant tell you that I will never understand this kind of relationship, where the club and the manager are the same thing. Chelsea is Mourinho, and Mourinho is Chelsea. If you speak a bad word about Mourinho, you are speaking bad about Chelsea.

I don't have any special relantionship with Jose Mourinho, because as TOPTB said, I will never understand why there is no better man to be at a southwest London football club. He was important for Chelsea (Mourinho, not TOPTB), but I don't think he deserves all the credits for the success the club got in recent years. With the amount of investment Chelsea made in football in the past 10 years, the results where only a question of time, Mourinho or no Mourinho. City and PSG are here to prove that.

So, I'm not discussing Mourinho CV, or how many trophies he won in the past. I'm discussing if he is the right manager for long term succes and, whether you like it or not, Mourinho was hired again to bring success, and he got a contract extension to bring long term success, and thats how he is going to be evaluated. A big football club, with many sponsors and marketing deals, is not paying huge money for a manager because he is the best man to be at a southwest London football club.

At this moment, I don't think Mourinho is the right man for a long term job. The quality of the squad deteriorated since he returned, his tactics are looking outdated and unidimensional, he is proving to be really bad in rebuilding a squad, and he has a very weird way to "motivate" his players.

You said in another post, that something must change in this forum. That might be true, but I don't think many of your comments are helping. If people who are big fan of Mourinho want to discuss Mourinho's job with good arguments, thats fine, but sometimes its not happening.

Days ago you just said people will be fucked off if the team win tomorrow, and some people were saying bad things about Mourinho even "when the team was 6 points clear last season".

Thats not helping this forum, if you ask me. If the team is 6 points clear, it doesn't mean everything is right. If the team win a match, thats not enough to fuck people off.

I have to remember you, even last season many people were criticizing this team, people who were saying Mourinho was genius, are still saying he is a genius. Last season, you were always renaming this topic to "moaning thread", you know because everyone who realized the team had many problems when it was "6 points clear", were just moaning.

I don't pretend to know whats bad or good for Chelsea, perhaps non-foreign who will be chanting Mourinho's name tomorrow know one thing or two about that.

However, Mourinho's future relies on his results. There are many signs out there that is losing the squad, the team is unbalanced, tactics are poor and I don't see he changing his ways, because since 2010 Mourinho is looking everything, but special.

Absolutely spot on.

The club should always be more important than the manager, always, without any exceptions. The best a manager could do is make a case for being the most important and most significant aspect of aa football club and the only manager that deserves such unreserved huge praise/accolade is Alex Ferguson. What he achieved at united is unparralled and will never be replicated in football again.

I laugh whenever Jose fan boys try to portray him as a god and make him look like the best thing that's ever happened to Chelsea when he's no where near roman abramovich. The man that made it all happen.

You made a very important point also about our success in the roman years being inspite of mourinho as it was inevitable.

Man city have won two of the last 4 EPL title and are on their way to making it 3 in 5. This is despite the lack of, what most would class, as a world class manager in charge.

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