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12 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

Do we know if the club actually fired her or she decided not to continue working? Because obviously Jon Fearn has returned. 

Anyway, I think regardless, she will win the case against the club because (unless courts work differently in Britain) it will most likely hinge on the expert testimony of another professional doctor who will probably side with her. 

As for the sexism case against Jose, if she wins that, it would only be because of the media hysteria  that followed the case. The only sexism involved in the case is the media coverage and witch hunt that followed the incident just because she is a hot woman. 

She was never sacked by the club and the week following after the match incident there was a meeting between the manager and medical team where things were allegedly cleared up. She chose not to go back to work after the match.

 

The strong rumours of other incidents and certain decision making by her regarding injuries and rest for 1st team players may come to light

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Without getting bogged down with the legalities of the case what is undeniable is Mourinho's petulant schoolboy just found out he's going to Darlington rather then Disneyland for his summer holidays is all the evidence the prosecution need that Eva's boss was to say the least prone to the occasional tantrum and overreaction.

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6 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

Without getting bogged down with the legalities of the case what is undeniable is Mourinho's petulant schoolboy just found out he's going to Darlington rather then Disneyland for his summer holidays is all the evidence the prosecution need that Eva's boss was to say the least prone to the occasional tantrum and overreaction.

  Paco Biosca????  He was her immediate boss

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11 minutes ago, Rhino's Skin said:

She was never sacked by the club and the week following after the match incident there was a meeting between the manager and medical team where things were allegedly cleared up. She chose not to go back to work after the match.

 

The strong rumours of other incidents and certain decision making by her regarding injuries and rest for 1st team players may come to light

That's what I read as well, but  how could she file an 'unfair dismisal' case if she wasn't actually dismissed?! 

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9 minutes ago, CHOULO19 said:

That's what I read as well, but  how could she file an 'unfair dismisal' case if she wasn't actually dismissed?! 

Constructive dismissal.....It could be based on several events behind the scenes then the match incident was the final straw.

Speculation of course ;-). As you or I do not know and why it amuses me that posters have made their judgement already without the full story behind the scenes coming to light

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10 minutes ago, Rhino's Skin said:

 

Well Jose was not her boss

No your right Jose had no influence in Eva getting sacked the man who wields the axe at the Bridge is Paco Blosca  A geezer who I and I would imagine the majority of Chelsea fans have never heard of. He's so anonymous he isn't even a household name in his own household

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23 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

No your right Jose had no influence in Eva getting sacked the man who wields the axe at the Bridge is Paco Blosca  A geezer who I and I would imagine the majority of Chelsea fans have never heard of. He's so anonymous he isn't even a household name in his own household

She didn't get sacked.

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I think the club can easily say she was demoted because of questionable decisions in the 18 months prior to the José-gate. She has been questioned including by the doctors committee or whatever over some of her assessments. A couple of times she cleared players to come back playing after head injuries, only for them to be subbed not long after.

Of course, in the episode everything happened she has a right, but the club can easily say she was bringing bad publicity in the execution of her job in a way no other doctors have brought to their clubs in the meanwhile. The demotion also included another person, so she can't exactly say it was personal.

I think she'll be left empty hands suing the club, but she might get some pay-off for the case against Mourinho.

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12 minutes ago, Barbara said:

I think the club can easily say she was demoted because of questionable decisions in the 18 months prior to the José-gate. She has been questioned including by the doctors committee or whatever over some of her assessments. A couple of times she cleared players to come back playing after head injuries, only for them to be subbed not long after.

Of course, in the episode everything happened she has a right, but the club can easily say she was bringing bad publicity in the execution of her job in a way no other doctors have brought to their clubs in the meanwhile. The demotion also included another person, so she can't exactly say it was personal.

I think she'll be left empty hands suing the club, but she might get some pay-off for the case against Mourinho.

So you honestly think someone who may or as far as I know hasn't had any bad publicity should have her professional integrity questioned by bullshit and hearsay?. The bottom line is she was called on to the pitch by the ref she done her job to be met by a middle aged man acting like a truculent teenager. As for bad medical decisions Tottenham's medical staff while helped by an expert in the crowd saved Muamba's life and then a couple of months later are being called unprofessional because they let Lloris play while concussed. I really can't understand the ''she was bringing bad publicity that no other doctors have brought to their clubs in the meanwhile''.

 

 

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5 hours ago, Yeboii said:

What has she given to the club that not some other doctors have given us?

Its not like she is some legend at the club. Only reason she is well known is because she is female and an attractive one.

In reality, nothing has changed at the club's medical part since she was dismissed. She hasn't given us anything else than being a doctor, just like our current doctors are doing.

I don't think Alex said she did anything more special than the other doctors do. I don't think Alex said she was a legend, actually he didn't say that. What Alex said was very simple: she worked many years for this club and didn't deserve to leave the way she did, just like the other doctors who are working for the club don't deserve that kind of treatment., because people that are not "legends" also deserve respect.

I think his post was very simple to understand.

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1 hour ago, Barbara said:

I think the club can easily say she was demoted because of questionable decisions in the 18 months prior to the José-gate. She has been questioned including by the doctors committee or whatever over some of her assessments. A couple of times she cleared players to come back playing after head injuries, only for them to be subbed not long after.

Barbara, this post doesn't make any sense.

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5 hours ago, Yeboii said:

What has she given to the club that not some other doctors have given us?

Its not like she is some legend at the club. Only reason she is well known is because she is female and an attractive one.

In reality, nothing has changed at the club's medical part since she was dismissed. She hasn't given us anything else than being a doctor, just like our current doctors are doing.

Fucking hell mate it's 2016. I'm surprised you've evolved from the crayon to the laptop.

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24 minutes ago, Henrique said:

I don't think Alex said she did anything more special than the other doctors do. I don't think Alex said she was a legend, actually he didn't say that. What Alex said was very simple: she worked many years for this club and didn't deserve to leave the way she did, just like the other doctors who are working for the club don't deserve that kind of treatment., because people that are not "legends" also deserve respect.

I think his post was very simple to understand.

Well, in my opinion, when someone says someone has "given" something is doing more than just what you're expected of when you come here, like Lampard did with all his goals and good games, Terry with his leadership and good games and Cech with all his wondersaves and clutch saves.

Carneiro did nothing more than be a doctor and did not "give" us anything.

Maybe I didn't/don't understand clearly what is going on since English is not my first language :)

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14 hours ago, Yeboii said:

What has she given to the club that not some other doctors have given us?

Its not like she is some legend at the club. Only reason she is well known is because she is female and an attractive one.

In reality, nothing has changed at the club's medical part since she was dismissed. She hasn't given us anything else than being a doctor, just like our current doctors are doing.

 

Not once did I say she's given more than anyone else. However, as you've alluded to in a later post, you got hung up over my use of the word "given". 

Regardless, it doesn't matter whether she was long-serving or a three-month intern. The way she was treated was disgraceful. 

 

12 hours ago, Rhino's Skin said:

Well obviously the club think her and her lawyers do not have that much to go on and have called their bluff by letting this go to tribunal instead of settling out of court under her terms.

Of course, she still has the option of a settlement ( agreed mutually) right up until the hour of the case.

A see some posters are getting confused by what Mourinho said after the match and the actions of the club there after.

Also, some posters seem to giving verdicts of the club being completely in the wrong without hearing a shred of evidence from either party

 

Good work Poirot

 

The club did nothing to either back or admonish Mourinho for his actions. In truth, in acquiescing with his actions, they indirectly condoned them. Their silence on the matter is deafening no matter how you would try to sugar-coat it. 

However, the irony here is delicious. Whilst you're lambasting ""some posters" for being "confused" and for "giving verdicts... without hearing a shred of evidence from either party", to open your own statement with "Well obviously the club think her and her lawyers..." is somewhat contradictory. 

Good work, Miss Marple. 

I think we'll leave it at that.

 

9 hours ago, Henrique said:

I don't think Alex said she did anything more special than the other doctors do. I don't think Alex said she was a legend, actually he didn't say that. What Alex said was very simple: she worked many years for this club and didn't deserve to leave the way she did, just like the other doctors who are working for the club don't deserve that kind of treatment., because people that are not "legends" also deserve respect.

I think his post was very simple to understand.

 

Correct. At least one person is able to comprehend what I was saying. Regardless of the rather undignified way she has acted since, this treatment is most unfair. 

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