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11 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Why Conte doesnt suit league? Because his training methods dont suit it. Italian league is one thing, english is other. The competition and rhytm are much more difficult than in italy. He burns players and if our players couldnt cope under Mou, how will they survive under Conte? Conte is known for playing same players and doesnt like to rotate much which could be problem. He didnt even pick Insigne for italy despite he is on fire this season. Hazard would be burnt out soon under Conte. 

 

yeah that's why ranieri who's not even as good as conte is first in this league with a fodder club...

i dont even want conte because he's stubborn af, but let's stop the "my league is better than yours" hint

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42 minutes ago, marketing media pet said:

yeah that's why ranieri who's not even as good as conte is first in this league with a fodder club...

i dont even want conte because he's stubborn af, but let's stop the "my league is better than yours" hint

 

2 hours ago, Cosmin said:

So you're suggesting that the club should appoint a manager that's already working in the Premier League, because "x league is one thing, English is other"? 

Mourinho came from Portugal, Ancelotti came from Italy (!) and they were pretty successful even during their first season here. I think there is a question mark about the adaptability of Conte's methods, but it's not a sure thing that he won't be able to adapt. It's a risk, indeed, but anyone else rumoured to get the job would be a risk. 

About tactics and warriors, we do have warriors: Ivanovic, Azpi, Cahill, Matic, Costa, Willian, the young lads, they are all ready to put their head in the opponents' boot for a guy that knows how to motivate them. And we will buy more players, players that Conte wants. The tactics have to be changed, anyway, because we want to adopt another style. No more bus parking, of course devensive tactics will be back to square one. So what? After what we've been through this season, we can't expect someone to come here and perform miracles over the night. We want to change, so let Conte or whoever else change. 

P.S.: Hazard would be burnt out soon under anyone, if he doesn't wake the hell up for good and start running his heart out for the club. 

 

Im not even saying Conte would not succeed because its harder league. Imo he wouldnt succeed because of his training methods. It worked for him to play same players in italian league, but it wont work in england because they will get tired. Allegri, Ranieri, Ancelotti etc are all italians but IMO they could succeed in england. It has nothing to do with league or nationality. Its just Conte methods that IMO wont work here.

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29 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

 

Im not even saying Conte would not succeed because its harder league. Imo he wouldnt succeed because of his training methods. It worked for him to play same players in italian league, but it wont work in england because they will get tired. Allegri, Ranieri, Ancelotti etc are all italians but IMO they could succeed in england. It has nothing to do with league or nationality. Its just Conte methods that IMO wont work here.

do we really know enough about his training methods, to say how everyone will react?  im sure mourinho runs them hard in training. and pocchettino is known for doing so, to an extreme level, and it has probably paid off

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12 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Why Conte doesnt suit league? Because his training methods dont suit it. Italian league is one thing, english is other. The competition and rhytm are much more difficult than in italy. He burns players and if our players couldnt cope under Mou, how will they survive under Conte? Conte is known for playing same players and doesnt like to rotate much which could be problem. He didnt even pick Insigne for italy despite he is on fire this season. Hazard would be burnt out soon under Conte. 

And our players warriors? Who? Who is willing to run whole game relentlessly regardless of result and fight for every ball? Willian, Azpi. Who else? Maybe Costa. The rest of the team is too slow or doesnt work hard enough to follow Conte methods and succeed. Not to mention Conte had great defense at juve. His team is oriented on balanced and organized defence. He would have lot of work with buying top defenders and midfielders and then creating a team out of it. He had bunch of italians and passionate players like Vidal at juve, which created special bond and mentality there. It would be alot harder to do that here because few players actualy showed they would 'die' for club. And without such players Conte wont get far.

Not to mention we will be back to square one with defensive tactics once again. I like strong defense, but with balanced play. Im sure if we pick Conte, we will watch more and more bunkers in every bigger game. And with all attacking players that we have, why not go for something more? Hiddink is doing fine job for example, IMO conte is just too defensive. Plus we dont have single italian here. Conte is known to be great mental leader and having so many italians back at juve surely helped create strong bonds and relationships. Never underestimate team players. Here I feel he would be somewhat out of place unless he brings couple of players he worked with before like Pogba, Vidal, Chielini, Verratti etc but good luck with getting any of those.

How do you know Conte training methods? Conte will make them warriors and they will fight if they don't then they will not play it's simple.Conte is too defensive WTF :lol: Conte plays balanced/attacking football.

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40 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

 

Im not even saying Conte would not succeed because its harder league. Imo he wouldnt succeed because of his training methods. It worked for him to play same players in italian league, but it wont work in england because they will get tired. Allegri, Ranieri, Ancelotti etc are all italians but IMO they could succeed in england. It has nothing to do with league or nationality. Its just Conte methods that IMO wont work here.

How do you know that?

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APPARENTLY so the Italian Corriere dello Sport says that Roman told the lads at Cobham on the 26th that Conte accepted.

 

http://www.corrieredellosport.it/news/calcio/calcio-mercato/2016/03/03-9099324/calciomercato_chelsea_esclusivo_-_abramovich_ha_deciso_prendo_conte_/

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3 hours ago, Chelsea4 said:

How do you know Conte training methods? Conte will make them warriors and they will fight if they don't then they will not play it's simple.Conte is too defensive WTF :lol: Conte plays balanced/attacking football.

If Conte plays balanced football and actualy performs good when we hit on top sides in CL, Ill buy you a beer.

 

2 hours ago, Cosmin said:

How do you know that?

 

3 hours ago, lucio said:

do we really know enough about his training methods, to say how everyone will react?  im sure mourinho runs them hard in training. and pocchettino is known for doing so, to an extreme level, and it has probably paid off

Im just assuming from what I seen. Players could decide to fight for club under Mou but they didnt. If it didnt work out with Mourinho, how will it work out with Conte who is same bracket of coach? Good motivator, difficult training and teams based on strong defence. Obviosuly Conte and Mou are different, but they have many same points and mistakes, both are stubborn as fuck.

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2 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

 

If Conte plays balanced football and actualy performs good when we hit on top sides in CL, Ill buy you a beer.

 

 

Im just assuming from what I seen. Players could decide to fight for club under Mou but they didnt. If it didnt work out with Mourinho, how will it work out with Conte who is same bracket of coach? Good motivator, difficult training and teams based on strong defence. Obviosuly Conte and Mou are different, but they have many same points and mistakes, both are stubborn as fuck.

Can you please stop this with Mourinho? Mourinho lost the dressing room it was Mourinho's fault.

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4 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

 

If Conte plays balanced football and actualy performs good when we hit on top sides in CL, Ill buy you a beer.

 

 

Im just assuming from what I seen. Players could decide to fight for club under Mou but they didnt. If it didnt work out with Mourinho, how will it work out with Conte who is same bracket of coach? Good motivator, difficult training and teams based on strong defence. Obviosuly Conte and Mou are different, but they have many same points and mistakes, both are stubborn as fuck.

I put alot of our problems at the feet of the players too. I understand its the managers job to motivate them but we are not talking about a bunch of schoolkids we are talking top of their profession millionairs! They know their jobs. They shouldnt need any other motivation than to do their soddin job for the company they work for.

Mos job was to train them and select the best team he could. They were normally the same bloomin ones that won the premiership a couple of months earlier. I expected more from them and it dissapointed me (well it pissed me off) that Mou was made the scapegoat.

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34 minutes ago, Chelsea4 said:

Can you please stop this with Mourinho? Mourinho lost the dressing room it was Mourinho's fault.

Well if the reasons were coaching methods and approach, players wont be much happier with Conte either.

Now lets leave this debate as it is; I dont think Conte suits us, I dont think we will be successful under him. But I will support him like I support everyone at cfc. We will see how things will span out.

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1 hour ago, BlueLyon said:

Well if the reasons were coaching methods and approach, players wont be much happier with Conte either.

Now lets leave this debate as it is; I dont think Conte suits us, I dont think we will be successful under him. But I will support him like I support everyone at cfc. We will see how things will span out.

And who do you think would suit us? Conte has rebuild Juventus and has won 3 concesutive Seri A titles,won the SuperCoppa.Conte is tactically great and a great motivator. Conte would be great.

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#Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich has told #Chelsea's staff and players that a deal is done with Antonio Conte. [Gazzetta World]

Abramovich met players and staff at Cobham on February 26, and notified them that an agreement had been reached with Conte. [Gazzetta World]

http://gazzettaworld.gazzetta.it/news/abramovich-chelsea-coach/

"With the Italy coach all-but confirmed as the next Blues boss"

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