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20 hours ago, CHOULO19 said:

I think the Conte rumors make a whole lot more sense. 

There's a lot less motivation to come here for both Simeone and Allegri. Both are managing top clubs that will be in the CL next season and competing for the local leagues. This will not be the case at Chelsea. Make no mistake, at the moment it would be a step backwards for both of them. 

It would take an immense desire for a new challenge or, more likely, a decision based almost solely on money and wages, to bring either of them here. 

Well, pretty cheap to assume it will be a step backward just because Chelsea is not playing in UCL, its the same thing as saying a Basel's coach or Andre Villas Boas won't be interested in Chelsea job because Basel and Zenith are UCL team's and they are competing for the local leagues. Both Simeone and Allegri know they don't have realistic chances of winning the UCL in their current teams for the next 5 years considering the lack of financial support, and its easier to imagine Chelsea playing a UCL final in 2018 than Atletico or Juventus. Chelsea won't be finishing in the top 4 because of a unusual start of the season caused by a toxic environment created by Mourinho. Simeone also knows he will always face an unfair competition from Real and Barcelona, to the point that in a season that everything is perfect for Atletico, and Barcelona is in crisis, the catalan side still manage to fight for the trophy until the last game of the season.

I really doubt Simeone or Allegri would drop the chance to join Chelsea because of "a step backwards", because its easy to understand Chelsea is an upgrade for them. The only reason that they might be less motivated is the fear of Big Roman's axe.

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1 hour ago, Henrique said:

Well, pretty cheap to assume it will be a step backward just because Chelsea is not playing in UCL, its the same thing as saying a Basel's coach or Andre Villas Boas won't be interested in Chelsea job because Basel and Zenith are UCL team's and they are competing for the local leagues. Both Simeone and Allegri know they don't have realistic chances of winning the UCL in their current teams for the next 5 years considering the lack of financial support, and its easier to imagine Chelsea playing a UCL final in 2018 than Atletico or Juventus. Chelsea won't be finishing in the top 4 because of a unusual start of the season caused by a toxic environment created by Mourinho. Simeone also knows he will always face an unfair competition from Real and Barcelona, to the point that in a season that everything is perfect for Atletico, and Barcelona is in crisis, the catalan side still manage to fight for the trophy until the last game of the season.

I really doubt Simeone or Allegri would drop the chance to join Chelsea because of "a step backwards", because its easy to understand Chelsea is an upgrade for them. The only reason that they might be less motivated is the fear of Big Roman's axe.

Atletico have been constant contenders for the CL for the past few seasons (were literally seconds away from winning it in 2014) and Juve were in the final last season and one of the strongest contenders this season. What are you even talking about there?! 

Both Atletico, and especially Juve, have much better squads than ours at the moment and how likely a team will be to win the UCL in 5 years depends largely on how they are managed till then but they definitely have a head start advantage on us. Certainly in the next couple of season they are more likely to be competing for the UCL than us. 

It was especially weird to read you saying that Juve and Atletico definitely won't win the UCL in the next five years after just reading a comment you made in the PSG match thread saying that you think Chelsea could win the UCL this season! :blink:

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Regardless of how shit we have been this season, there are only three teams worth fearing in the UCL: Bayern, PSG, and Barcelona. Because they're the three best teams in the world right now, in my humble opinion. And we arguably have a psychological edge over two of those (Your City, Your Stadium, Our Trophy, etc.), whilst the third of those are so evenly matched with us - a 3-3 win and a 3-3 defeat?! Real Madrid are so horrendously over-rated and struggle whenever Cristiano can't be bothered turning up. Atletico continue to massively over-perform, and Juventus are a weaker side without Tevez and Vidal. If we beat PSG we can beat anyone, especially with Diego and Willian in their current form. We have the potential to go far in the UCL because we have a good team, and that alone is enough to attract a top manager.

 

The only issue is that I genuinely feel there are only three "top" managers in world football, and we sacked one of them earlier this season. The second is already going to City, and third is unlikely to leave Atletico.

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5 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

If we did no doubt be opening up this poll again after one season

Why wait after one season? Better off just have the poll from the start!

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I want Poch, but he'll no way leave Spuds for us especially if they get CL and *shivers* win the title...

Simeone? I hated Mourinho's negative ultra-defensive football tactics and I fear Simeone's going to be the same.

Hiddink? Apart from the Arsenal game, he hasn't impressed me at all. Drawing home and away to United, drawing with West Brom, Everton, Watford etc...all those draws. If we won all these games we would be in top 4 right now and maybe, just maybe put ourselves back in the title race. We can't have this disappointing form again next season so..

Rodgers? F that.

Pellers? A City reject, that he keeps losing key games this season? F that.

Ranieri? He expressed that he wants to stay with Leicester and if they win the title or get CL, he's going nowhere...

Koeman? Huge risk with him, rather not take it.

Have no knowledge on any other manager listed in the poll bar the clowns like Moyes.

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

You have basically listed all the games we have dropped points in under Guus, I'm sorry but you can't expect anyone to take over the shambles that Hiddink had too and pull off ten in a row from the off (something that's only been done a few times in PL history and never by us I don't think) furthermore, even if he did, we would still be out of top 4 places.

Havewe been perfect under Hiddink? No, and yes some of the draws have been avoidable, but looking at the context of how the team and club were on its knees when he arrived, 18 points in ten games is a very respectable return, that's top 4 challenging form.

Spot on and especially this season where any team seems like it can beat another team - maddest season ever at the moment 

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4 hours ago, Tomo said:

You have basically listed all the games we have dropped points in under Guus, I'm sorry but you can't expect anyone to take over the shambles that Hiddink had too and pull off ten in a row from the off (something that's only been done a few times in PL history and never by us I don't think) furthermore, even if he did, we would still be out of top 4 places.

Havewe been perfect under Hiddink? No, and yes some of the draws have been avoidable, but looking at the context of how the team and club were on its knees when he arrived, 18 points in ten games is a very respectable return, that's top 4 challenging form.

Well maybe we would still be out of top 4 because all top 4 teams are challenging for the title...but with over 10 games to go, we would be buzzing with SOME hope. Right now it's zero, and we'll never catch them up.

I agree, Chelsea's ship was sinking faster than the Titanic before we kicked Mourinho out of the ship and Hiddink had to take over as best as he could. I'm grateful that he made Costa who he truly is again. But come on, drawing to West Brom at home in the style we did? 0-2 down to Everton and we almost lost the game with seconds to go? And United, we should be at least beating the weakest United side in history at home.

If Hiddink have gotten his lineups right (no Mikel-Matic) and gone all out, we would have beaten some of these teams. And he's still failing to start youth in the PL. We are not getting top 4, I don't want us fighting for Europa football, so what have we got to lose?

Point is, Hiddink could have done better. I know that some of these draws could have been wins. Do I want him gone? Heck no, not yet anyway. But I'm not that impressed. The unbeaten run is nice, but it feels so mediocre when you have more draws then wins.

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3 hours ago, Muzchap said:

Spot on and especially this season where any team seems like it can beat another team - maddest season ever at the moment 

THANK ALLAH, SOMEONE SPEAKS SENSE.

 

18 points out of 30, in the context of this season, is equal to picking up 25 out of 30 in any normal season. It is a phenomenal achievement. I hope people do recall that, prior to Guus' appointment, the most games we'd gone without losing was two matches.

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1 hour ago, BlueLion said:

THANK ALLAH, SOMEONE SPEAKS SENSE.

 

18 points out of 30, in the context of this season, is equal to picking up 25 out of 30 in any normal season. It is a phenomenal achievement. I hope people do recall that, prior to Guus' appointment, the most games we'd gone without losing was two matches.

Indeed - it's not just the unbeaten run, the players look happy, motivated and are working their socks off, playing with desire and giving it a go. 

I see people being critical thst we have drawn games and played Matic/Mikel. I'm surprised tbh - Mikel has been outstanding - I have slated him in the past, but fair play to him, he stepped up when we needed him. 

This Newcastle team was so poor, they are almost as bad as Villa. People complaining about WBA draw and Everton need to understand that they are not easy games, Pulis is a great manager and has his teams well organised and drilled. Martinez is a decent manager and his teams are always tricky. Look at what Raneiri is achieving with a team of arguably 'nobody's' total squad cost of £22million! 

As for the UTD game - DeGea had a worldie against us, it's that simple, we done enough to win that game. As usual against Sunderland DeGea was shit. 

I just don't get the critiscism of Guus - he's steadied the ship, got the players motivated again, put us on a run of unbeaten games that nobody else in the league is matching, and has us looking like a good bet as a Cup Team. 

Obviously we need an overhaul in the summer, but right now we are seeing close to the best this squad can achieve IMHO. 

Let us not also forget that RLC and Traore are gettin minutes, which was also demanded and has been delivered. 

KTBFFH

 

 

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7 hours ago, Chelsea_firstlove said:

We have Zouma, Christensen, Miazga, Baba, C. Musonda, Boga, B.Traore, RLC, Solanke, Kenedy, T. Abraham, C. Colkett.

We need Pochettino.

Yeah I would love Pochettino here, been saying it for a while. But I'm not sure if next season would be the time he wants to come. 

In fact I think next season is not the best time for any of the manager we might want like Simeone and such. 

This is why I think it might be better to let Hiddink stay for one more season or maybe two and then we can work on the players and manager we want with tranquility. Like City has done these past few seasons. 

 

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