Next Manager?

[communicate 2,703]

7 hours ago, Special Juan said:

To be fair Howe has done a super job at Bournemouth, and considering their spending power he has them playing good football.

I'm not for one minute saying we should go for him, but this club bunny hop their way through managers so much it's like scratching around the lost property bin year on year.

The young English bloke who's done well on a poor budget would be something, that I think, the board would see as 'fuck it let's give it a go'

We've done AVB, Jose x2, the Italian chain smoker is charge now, who was meant to bring 'Sarri-ball', it's more like Sorry-ball because I don't think the players have a clue what it is, and neither does Sarri.

 

It is more than possession football. To be able to be successful he need to have a style that can be successful for big team if not it will be like David Moyes all over again. I need to watch bournemouth play more to understand,but I watched Poch soton team twice and I understand why he was hired for spurs. 

 

[mccg 1,528]

Zinedine Zidane ‘more than happy’ to join Chelsea FC – report

Zinedine Zidane is still keen on the Chelsea FC job, according to reports

https://www.thesportreview.com/2019/02/chelsea-fc-news-zinedine-zidane-latest-update/

[Costa19 614]

33 minutes ago, mccg said:

Zinedine Zidane ‘more than happy’ to join Chelsea FC – report

Zinedine Zidane is still keen on the Chelsea FC job, according to reports

https://www.thesportreview.com/2019/02/chelsea-fc-news-zinedine-zidane-latest-update/

Ofc. Then he is happy with the squad and wont expect any signings knowing the squad will fuck up and he gets the sack after a couple of months. Easy payday for Zidane! 

[Fernando 6,150]

Terry or Lampard if Sarri get sack. 

The players don't respect coaches nor the club. 

[communicate 2,703]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Terry or Lampard if Sarri get sack. 

The players don't respect coaches nor the club. 

No. It is going to be a disaster. Built a strong foundation of possession based team and then you can bring manager like Lamp or Terry. 

 

[Laylabelle 8,800]

1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Terry or Lampard if Sarri get sack. 

The players don't respect coaches nor the club. 

I wouldn't want to see either get treated like dirt. 

It's worrying once again we're even having this discussion.... 

[communicate 2,703]

13 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

I wouldn't want to see either get treated like dirt. 

It's worrying once again we're even having this discussion.... 

Nah the hate on Sarri is still very high.

Imo Chelsea fans are just too spoiled. That early Roman era spoiled everyone. We had the most expensive squad and the best squad in the league. The lack of excitement being able to go toe to toe to city really shows that. Chelsea fans still think we are at the same level as City but clearly we are not. We cannot compete in the market with city, what we can do is spend correctly and build a strong foundation for the future. 

[Laylabelle 8,800]

2 minutes ago, communicate said:

Nah the hate on Sarri is still very high.

Imo Chelsea fans are just too spoiled. That early Roman era spoiled everyone. We had the most expensive squad and the best squad in the league. The lack of excitement being able to go toe to toe to city really shows that. Chelsea fans still think we are at the same level as City but clearly we are not. We cannot compete in the market with city, what we can do is spend correctly and build a strong foundation for the future. 

That's it. I do think Sarri has had his faults this season.. A lot and seems so much behind the scenes crap going on as well.  Didn't deserve what happened today at all. 

Just annoying how set we seemed years back with Jose and then that went so sour.. Twice! 

Yeah especially as we may only have window for a while.. Lets hope they do spend correctly. 

[Vesper 23,968]

Chlsea fans are not spoilt.

That is bollocks. What we are is sick of self-inflicted wounds from every angle.

Why the fuck would we want to go back to the shit club of the 70's, 80's and 90's?

It would be like telling the people living in Shoreditch to slum out because some billionaire Russian says so and bunch of old jelly fools want to see a vibrant neighbourhood revert back to a shithole of their youth so they can feel good via schadenfreude.

Ownership on down are the bad guys in this all.

Marina has been a DISASTER at her job, yet is untouchable, still in absolute puppet-power.

The board have rule-broken us into a 2 window transfer ban, yet are safe n sound in their jobs because...SIBNEFT

Sarri got what he deserved from Kepa. 2/3rs of a year of horrific personnel decisions. Playing clearly SHIT players over others, to points it has cost us dearly overall in terms of potential exits and also standings.

Why the fuck would Sarri demand to take off a clearly superior player for a scrub. Caballero is shit.

Only thing I regret is that is wasn't Emerson refusing to come off for Alonso.

It isnt player power, it is common sense.

 

[ZanSnake 1,211]

50 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Chlsea fans are not spoilt.

That is bollocks. What we are is sick of self-inflicted wounds from every angle.

Why the fuck would we want to go back to the shit club of the 70's, 80's and 90's?

It would be like telling the people living in Shoreditch to slum out because some billionaire Russian says so and bunch of old jelly fools want to see a vibrant neighbourhood revert back to a shithole of their youth so they can feel good via schadenfreude.

Ownership on down are the bad guys in this all.

Marina has been a DISASTER at her job, yet is untouchable, still in absolute puppet-power.

The board have rule-broken us into a 2 window transfer ban, yet are safe n sound in their jobs because...SIBNEFT

Sarri got what he deserved from Kepa. 2/3rs of a year of horrific personnel decisions. Playing clearly SHIT players over others, to points it has cost us dearly overall in terms of potential exits and also standings.

Why the fuck would Sarri demand to take off a clearly superior player for a scrub. Caballero is shit.

Only thing I regret is that is wasn't Emerson refusing to come off for Alonso.

It isnt player power, it is common sense.

 

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Because he thought he was injured?

Fell twice due to what was thought as cramp and had hamstring issues before the game, to the point he was doubted fit to start?

[ChelseaFanUK 1,008]

Dont hate Sarri seems a nice bloke.  We always want a manager to do well, and maybe the penny might drop with him now. If we beat Spurs, i may just believe he can do something here., but right now I just think our job might be too big for him, or at least one that he is struggling to grasp. 

I think the Kepa explanation from both parties is absolute BS. Trying to save face for the club.  I wouldnt say Sarri bottled the decision, but id have demanded Kepa leave the field if i was him.  The sub was quite clearly, imo, a pre planned change due to Caballero's penalty saving ability.

I have constantly complained about his lack of change and flexibility, and despite some saying today was a tactical masterclass or whatever, it wasnt.  It was simply realising we'd beaten them with this system before and hoping it worked again. Because if we had played the way he would of really wanted, we'd have got thumped.   It wasn't a complete change if you get me, or a real re-think of how to get us going. 

 

Absolutely not a chance in hell he 'wanted' to play false 9

 

The team v Spurs will prove it, he will go back to the old 11

 

 

[ChelseaFanUK 1,008]

If he ends up going, seems like Holland could get it, Telegraph claimed other day

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2 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

That's it. I do think Sarri has had his faults this season.. A lot and seems so much behind the scenes crap going on as well.  Didn't deserve what happened today at all. 

Just annoying how set we seemed years back with Jose and then that went so sour.. Twice! 

Yeah especially as we may only have window for a while.. Lets hope they do spend correctly. 

It is the reality but people don't want to accept it. We are still one of the biggest team in England,but squad wise we are 5th and we cannot compete with city and united in term spending power. The other two teams spend 3 years building their teams with the same manager. 

Yesterday people didn't see how much better our build up against pressing. How we didn't just sit deep the whole time but we press at times. It is massive improvement under Conte because whenever we got pressed we just capitulate. This imo is more important. Not oh, it was a tactical masterclass of that kind of bs.

But noone talk about this because this is not important for them. They will say where the f is Sarriball. 

 

[Henrique 9,076]

1 hour ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

The sub was quite clearly, imo, a pre planned change due to Caballero's penalty saving ability.

I don't think so, otherwise he would have made the same thing in the semi against Spurs. Its also pretty clear that Willy wasn't ready to be introduce as he was clearly in a hurry to get ready with his gloves and other stuff.

[Tomo 21,048]

2 hours ago, Vesper said:

Sarri got what he deserved from Kepa. 2/3rs of a year of horrific personnel decisions. Playing clearly SHIT players over others, to points it has cost us dearly overall in terms of potential exits and also standings.

Why the fuck would Sarri demand to take off a clearly superior player for a scrub. Caballero is shit.

Overall he's average but his penalty record is insane, he saves every other kick he faces on average.

[Henrique 9,076]

2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Overall he's average but his penalty record is insane, he saves every other kick he faces on average.

Not to mention he was a City player and is used to the way some players take penalties. Some of them would be less confident in front of a former teammate. 

[Jase 43,476]

4 hours ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

The sub was quite clearly, imo, a pre planned change due to Caballero's penalty saving ability.

If the sub really was pre-planned, then this is where I have issue with. Unless Kepa decided to say fuck it at the last minute (in which case then he should be punished), Sarri should have communicated this to Kepa and the players pre-match. Not saying Kepa's reaction turned out to be the right one but if you decide to take a keeper off and his chance to be the hero for the team 1-2 minutes from the end without any warning, then you shouldn't be surprised to see some sort of protest from the keeper. As it was and the fact that no one else appeared to do anything (be it the players dragging Kepa off or the coaching staff telling him to come off), suggest the entire situation was badly mismanaged. If this decision had been communicated beforehand, we would be sitting here and talking about the performance instead.

Also, I just had a look back at the incident and don't think Sarri covered himself in glory in that situation either. Why didn't Sarri stand his ground on the sideline and insist on the change if he really was hell-bent on making it? He first came to the touchline to signal the change, went back and wrote something, came back out looking pissed when he realized Kepa didn't want to come off, ref came to talk to him and he then went ballistic and threatened to walk out. He should have been in control of the situation but ended up wasn't, opposite to what he said post-match. Again not saving Kepa's reaction was right but Sarri's angry reaction and lack of control only added to the mess and confusion in that incident. 

[coolhead23 1,116]

3 minutes ago, Jason said:

If the sub really was pre-planned, then this is where I have issue with. Unless Kepa decided to say fuck it at the last minute (in which case then he should be punished), Sarri should have communicated this to Kepa and the players pre-match. Not saying Kepa's reaction turned out to be the right one but if you decide to take a keeper off and his chance to be the hero for the team 1-2 minutes from the end without any warning, then you shouldn't be surprised to see some sort of protest from the keeper. As it was and the fact that no one else appeared to do anything (be it the players dragging Kepa off or the coaching staff telling him to come off), suggest the entire situation was badly mismanaged. If this decision had been communicated beforehand, we would be sitting here and talking about the performance instead.

Also, I just had a look back at the incident and don't think Sarri covered himself in glory in that situation either. Why didn't Sarri stand his ground on the sideline and insist on the change if he really was hell-bent on making it? He first came to the touchline to signal the change, went back and wrote something, came back out looking pissed when he realized Kepa didn't want to come off, ref came to talk to him and he then went ballistic and threatened to walk out. He should have been in control of the situation but ended up wasn't, opposite to what he said post-match. Again not saving Kepa's reaction was right but Sarri's angry reaction and lack of control only added to the mess and confusion in that incident. 

Manager has the right to alter his plan as and when depending on the situation. One way for looking at it is that Kepa went down in the last 10 mins and that must have put a thought on Sarri's mind to change the keeper. He doesnt have to communicate that. He gives the order and the players have to execute it.  

Why would someone drag off Kepa ... I imagine that happening and we would be a bigger laughing stock today morning. As far as no one being involved, Zola was clearly shouting it out for Kepa to come in, Luiz did the same on the pitch... he didnt and that's what must have infuriated Sarri. Come on, he is in the hot seat right now ... it's a final which if won mite buy him some time and moreover Sarri is an aggressive guy, how can u expect a clam reaction when his player is basically showing him the finger. 

I would have loved a controlled reaction from Sarri but then I cant fault his reaction as it's justified to how his personality is ... Imagine a Conte or a Mourinho in the situation ... 

 

[Jase 43,476]

3 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

Manager has the right to alter his plan as and when depending on the situation. One way for looking at it is that Kepa went down in the last 10 mins and that must have put a thought on Sarri's mind to change the keeper. He doesnt have to communicate that. He gives the order and the players have to execute it.

If it was because of the injury, then Sarri was silly to react the way he did after Kepa said he was okay to continue. If it was pre-planned, then this should have been communicated beforehand and even if not, these things should at least be talked about in the team meeting.

9 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

Why would someone drag off Kepa ... I imagine that happening and we would be a bigger laughing stock today morning. As far as no one being involved, Zola was clearly shouting it out for Kepa to come in, Luiz did the same on the pitch...

I don't mean literally. Luiz did it in a half-hearted manner while Zola only did it once Sarri went ballistic. No one was really doing anything significant from preventing the situation to turn out as it did.

11 minutes ago, coolhead23 said:

he didnt and that's what must have infuriated Sarri. Come on, he is in the hot seat right now ... it's a final which if won mite buy him some time and moreover Sarri is an aggressive guy, how can u expect a clam reaction when his player is basically showing him the finger. 

I would have loved a controlled reaction from Sarri but then I cant fault his reaction as it's justified to how his personality is ... Imagine a Conte or a Mourinho in the situation ... 

I don't blame Sarri for feeling angry but what I do expect from him is to be in charge of the situation, stand his ground if he really wanted that sub to happen. He's the manager of the team, he's supposed to be the leader and yet, he went totally ballistic and lost control of the situation.

[coolhead23 1,116]

2 hours ago, Jason said:

If it was because of the injury, then Sarri was silly to react the way he did after Kepa said he was okay to continue. If it was pre-planned, then this should have been communicated beforehand and even if not, these things should at least be talked about in the team meeting.

Like I said, there are decision which happens in the moment irrespective to what is talked pre match or based on the dynamics on the ground ... it looked like that. Why is Sarri silly even if it was an injury ... he makes the call based on various factors not anyone else. 

2 hours ago, Jason said:

I don't mean literally. Luiz did it in a half-hearted manner while Zola only did it once Sarri went ballistic. No one was really doing anything significant from preventing the situation to turn out as it did.

I was referring to the fact that there were people involved in trying to get Kepa off ... Again what would u expect from Luiz to drag him out ... half hearted or otherwise ... he did try to convey the message. 

2 hours ago, Jason said:

I don't blame Sarri for feeling angry but what I do expect from him is to be in charge of the situation, stand his ground if he really wanted that sub to happen. He's the manager of the team, he's supposed to be the leader and yet, he went totally ballistic and lost control of the situation.

I respect your opinion but I dont blame his action and find it justified purely based on his personality ... I would loved to have a controlled reaction but I wouldnt blame him ...