Cesc Fàbregas

[manpe 10,861]

2 hours ago, the wes said:

It's impressive that his pass completion is so high despite being the lowest of the lot, because he tries so many long passes every game, far more than anybody else, yet still maintains pass completion over 80%. No wonder he didn't fit Barca with their tiki-taka bs, not in his DNA to slowball.

[Gilvorak 3,734]

If Fabregas could play well at the Etihad against City then he can play in any ground or PL match.

[kellzfresh 7,229]

19 hours ago, the wes said:

 

[Leif 6,006]

Here is the only player we should replace him with. Nobody has played this position & role this well at 19 years old. If he still performed to this level in Europe at 20 or so years old he'd simply have to be considered the best allround playmaking prospect considering age. The vid starts with his goals, then assists, then how he defends the ball. 

 

[the wes 7,212]

6 hours ago, Leif said:

Here is the only player we should replace him with. Nobody has played this position & role this well at 19 years old. If he still performed to this level in Europe at 20 or so years old he'd simply have to be considered the best allround playmaking prospect considering age. The vid starts with his goals, then assists, then how he defends the ball. 

 

He's type of player I love to see play alongside Kante 

[Unionjack 7,531]

Whether we find a way to play and keep Cescy or not hes proved that what he brings us creativity wise we need a player that can bring it.

With another creative,ball player as CB and couple of other upgrades we would be in a good position to hit Europe running.,  .

[Unionjack 7,531]

Fabregas's favourite Premier League moment was the one he could never reach with Arsenal

And looks forward to reaching again under Conte

“The day we won it, I remember I just went on my knees. It was such a big relief. I remember I had competed a lot of years, sometimes we were close, sometimes not so much, but I really tried to give a lot everywhere I have been in the Premier League and to finally achieve it was one of the best moments in my career.”

“You can win a World Cup or a Euros, which is maybe the best a player can win, but when you’ve been trying to fight for a trophy for so many years, when you came close sometimes, you gave so much and fought so much for it and in the end it happens, it was personally a big achievement.”

http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2017/3/4/14815360/cesc-fabregas-chelsea-arsenal-premier-league-trophy-conte-future-winning

[robsblubot 3,504]

On 2/28/2017 at 11:07 AM, manpe said:

It's impressive that his pass completion is so high despite being the lowest of the lot, because he tries so many long passes every game, far more than anybody else, yet still maintains pass completion over 80%. No wonder he didn't fit Barca with their tiki-taka bs, not in his DNA to slowball.

That's in his favor yes, but fabregas and pogba play deeper than the others in the list. The others have to deal with more contested areas and tighter marking from the opposition. 

Don't think he was good enough to be a regular for Barca. We need better all rounders in the middle if we want to compete outside the pl.

[Unionjack 7,531]

Chelsea transfer news: Fabregas offered €5.6m per week from Turkish league giants

http://turkish-football.com/chelsea-transfer-news-galatasaray-prepare-e5-6m-per-week-offer-for-cesc-fabregas/

[11Drogba 2,000]

1 hour ago, Unionjack said:

Chelsea transfer news: Fabregas offered €5.6m per week from Turkish league giants

http://turkish-football.com/chelsea-transfer-news-galatasaray-prepare-e5-6m-per-week-offer-for-cesc-fabregas/

BS. No sane person would go to Turkey under these circumstances.

Podolski and other famous players are looking for clubs. Turkish clubs also have serious financial problems because of the weakening currency.

[BlueLyon 9,359]

One thing I absolutely dont get is he can make a pinpoint pass through half of field during the play, but his corners and freekick deliveries are absolutely average. How is that possible for someone with such good pass? Pirlo, Kroos, Iniesta can all do it. What is with Cesc that he cant? If he had this threat from corners and freekicks he would be alot more usefull.

He has good technique but poor at holding the ball and dribbling, good in passing but poor at setpieces....so so limited player.

The rest of our squad is shit in corners and freekick deliveries too, so Im happy whenever Cesc plays because just maybe he can give a good ball, but generaly we are so poor in this.

[OhForAGreavsie 5,892]

2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

One thing I absolutely dont get is he can make a pinpoint pass through half of field during the play, but his corners and freekick deliveries are absolutely average. How is that possible for someone with such good pass? Pirlo, Kroos, Iniesta can all do it. What is with Cesc that he cant? If he had this threat from corners and freekicks he would be alot more usefull.

He has good technique but poor at holding the ball and dribbling, good in passing but poor at setpieces....so so limited player.

The rest of our squad is shit in corners and freekick deliveries too, so Im happy whenever Cesc plays because just maybe he can give a good ball, but generaly we are so poor in this.

It's because most people ask themselves a simple question then give a hopelessly wrong answer.

That question is, "How hard can it be to deliver an accurate cross into the box from a corner?"  The answer most give to that question is, "Not very." Wrong. Badly wrong. The evidence for the correct answer is all over the place if only people would take time to notice.

Every set of football fans, everywhere in the world, complain that their players are bad at corner kicks*. If everybody is bad at a particular skill, then the one thing you can say about that skill is that it can't be easy. it is clearly very difficult and therefore even the best players will not get it right most of the time.

* A potential exaggeration on my part obviously since I have not read the comments of every set of fans in the world. I've just extrapolated from the fact that I have never come across any fans who do not complain about thier players' low success rate from corners. 

[DYC. 7,542]

8 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

One thing I absolutely dont get is he can make a pinpoint pass through half of field during the play, but his corners and freekick deliveries are absolutely average. How is that possible for someone with such good pass? Pirlo, Kroos, Iniesta can all do it. What is with Cesc that he cant? If he had this threat from corners and freekicks he would be alot more usefull.

He has good technique but poor at holding the ball and dribbling, good in passing but poor at setpieces....so so limited player.

The rest of our squad is shit in corners and freekick deliveries too, so Im happy whenever Cesc plays because just maybe he can give a good ball, but generaly we are so poor in this.

Iniesta isn't good at crossing or delivering good set-pieces.

In the Netherlands there's a football term called 'traptechniek'. It translates to kick(ing) technique in English, refering to the ability of kicking/striking the ball with finesse, power, swerve and dip. Quality corner deliveries are about power, swerve and dip. Players like Pirlo and Kroos are capable of striking the ball with those techniques in a very controlled fashion. Long passing is mostly about finesse. It's more of a stroke than an actual kick/strike. Those typical Fabregas passes from around 25-35m from goal is a subtle technique. Pirlo is a master of both. It's arguably what made his career. Kroos not so much, more of a cross passer.

There's a bigger correlation between direct FKs and corners than long passes and corners. But they're still different techniques. Messi is a FK and long passing master but his set-piece delivery is a 6, 6.5 out of 10 at best. I relate because my traptechniek is my specialty as an amateur. Too big for corner delivery duty though.

But like Greavsie said above, if most can't do it, it's obviously an extremely hard skill to master and a rare talent.

[Unionjack 7,531]

9 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

One thing I absolutely dont get is he can make a pinpoint pass through half of field during the play, but his corners and freekick deliveries are absolutely average. How is that possible for someone with such good pass? Pirlo, Kroos, Iniesta can all do it. What is with Cesc that he cant? If he had this threat from corners and freekicks he would be alot more usefull.

He has good technique but poor at holding the ball and dribbling, good in passing but poor at setpieces....so so limited player.

The rest of our squad is shit in corners and freekick deliveries too, so Im happy whenever Cesc plays because just maybe he can give a good ball, but generaly we are so poor in this.

I do understand where you're coming from.

When you see some of the pinpoint passes he's made with opposition all round him yet hes got all the time in the world for crosses (not ONLY Cescy but others too) then you would expect he could take the gonads off a fly given time and space.

And these lads practice these kicks for hours at a time. Look at that Eden practice corner when he scored from well behind the touchline.

So its understandable how we can hammer our heads into a wall sometimes when the ball doesn't get past the closest guy to him at a corner kick.

[The Skipper 20,593]

On 4/5/2017 at 11:29 AM, DYC. said:

In the Netherlands there's a football term called 'traptechniek'. It translates to kick(ing) technique in English, refering to the ability of kicking/striking the ball with finesse, power, swerve and dip. Quality corner deliveries are about power, swerve and dip. Players like Pirlo and Kroos are capable of striking the ball with those techniques in a very controlled fashion. Long passing is mostly about finesse. It's more of a stroke than an actual kick/strike.

Someone else who's got beautiful traptechniek is Xhaka at Arsenal. 

[Yeboii 1,844]

9 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Someone else who's got beautiful traptechniek is Xhaka at Arsenal. 

Xhaka has that but has nothing else in his locker lol.

[The Skipper 20,593]

Just now, Yeboii said:

Xhaka has that but has nothing else in his locker lol.

He's a good player. Hasn't settled in yet imo. I think he'll have a good season next year, and show everyone what he's really about. He's a very rare player, proper regista. In the right system he would thrive.

[Footballover 222]

Actually, after another so so attempt by Cesc to deliver a free kick yesterday, I remembered Frank Lampard. With all the traptechniek discussion above, I can't reminisce over this player, one of the best midfielders of his generation. Had it all.