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Only way I can see it is if there's a significant outgoing. Either Ramires or Oscar.

In other words, not happening. Unless we're taking the Real Madrid/Barca/Bayern route of "you can never have enough top class players."

4-3-3

----------Costa-----------

Hazard-----------Willian

---------Fabregas---------

----Matic---------Kroos----

Luis----Terry----Cahill----Azpi

------------Courtois-------------

That is unbelievable. You could question whether that's enough cover defensively in midfield but our back 4 and keeper are so good and Matic covers so much of the pitch that I think it would work.

That would be ironic seeing as if he lefts Bayern it proves you cannot have too many top class players in the same position. Over the year the likes of Sneijder, Robben, Higuain...etc had to leave Madrid to become star players in other top teams. As many have said, if he arrives it means Oscar will probably be sold.

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It's either Oscar out, or Jose is really pissed we didn't win anything past season, even though we beat every rival considering we had many weaknesses, and now just switched to madness mode and wants MORE MORE MORE!!!!!!

I like the idea of an absolutely mad Jose :D. Kind of like this but replace the word "power" for "midfielders":

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Only way I can see it is if there's a significant outgoing. Either Ramires or Oscar.

In other words, not happening. Unless we're taking the Real Madrid/Barca/Bayern route of "you can never have enough top class players."

4-3-3

----------Costa-----------

Hazard-----------Willian

---------Fabregas---------

----Matic---------Kroos----

Luis----Terry----Cahill----Azpi

------------Courtois-------------

That is unbelievable. You could question whether that's enough cover defensively in midfield but our back 4 and keeper are so good and Matic covers so much of the pitch that I think it would work.

We can change Oscar and Fabregas from game to game which means both can get atleast 30 starts and another good amount of subs appareances.

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We can change Oscar and Fabregas from game to game which means both can get atleast 30 starts and another good amount of subs appareances.

We can, of course, but it wouldn't make either of them very happy, to put it lightly. Keeping your key players happy is the key to a good management. It's one thing to put a top player on the bench when he has a bad form/tired/injured, and completely another to tell them that they would just rotate. They would be pissed, and rightfully so, considering that they aren't nobodies and have plenty of ambition.
Besides, I get the impression that Fabregas is the type of player who thrives and performs much better when he feels his position is secure and is sure of the manager's support and trust. Constantly being subbed, regardless of how well he performs, would do the opposite. It isn't fair to Oscar, either.
So no, I still don't see Kroos coming unless Oscar is leaving, and even then, it's a big IF.
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It's not about Kroos and his agent anymore. He told the club he'll sign a new contract only if his wages are doubled. In response, Bayern have made it clear that the maximum he will get is €5m per annum. That's €2m less than what Kroos is expecting.

And you have El Confidencial as the one who broke this story. They are no mugs, you don't get to call such a reputable outlet and ask if they can come up with a story like this. You do this with Mirror and Daily Mail, not with Telegraph, Guardian, El Confidencial or Cadena SER.

What makes one paper credible and the other rubbish? I've seen every one of those papers you mentioned publish bullshit. Is it just that they don't do as much? I don't believe anything these papers have to say to be honest, most of the time its click bait trash...

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What makes one paper credible and the other rubbish? I've seen every on of those papers you mentioned publish bullshit. Is it just that they don't do as much? I don't believe anything these papers have to say to be honest, most of the time its click bait trash...

You only believe Sky Sports and BBC?

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Not even them really but like I said, they tend to be more accurate since they don't publish a lot of rumours.

So which media outlet do you believe that always gives 100% accurate information? or you won't believe anything until it is officially announced?

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So which media outlet do you believe that always gives 100% accurate information? or you won't believe anything until it is officially announced?

None, most of the stuff like this is designed for people like you to click and start a 15 pg dialogue amongst supporters about why Chelsea are buying Kroos. When you post a link here the potential to get thousands of hits grows exponentially. When I read direct quotes, not sources say or understands, I start to believe more.

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I dont think this will happen and I dont want this to happen. Way too offensive and Kroos and cesc both dont defend much. Unless jose will go full attack, I dont see this happening. And our CBs arent realy world class either, they need support from midfield too...

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None, most of the stuff like this is designed for people like you to click and start a 15 pg dialogue amongst supporters about why Chelsea are buying Kroos. When you post a link here the potential to get thousands of hits grows exponentially. When I read direct quotes, not sources say or understands, I start to believe more.

Ah I see that explains it all about your attitude regarding transfers then. I think you are gonna find it hard to get information from quotes because most of the time transfers are done without any quote directly from involving parties. Fabregas is not gonna come out and says things like ''My next team will be wearing Blue in London'' or ''I am going to England with a club that have won the CL in the past 5 years''

Believe it or not, these websites actually have inside sources and sometime their claims are true(even though most of the time it is likely bs). However they don't make complete craps up such as City bid 100m+Aguero for Messi or something like that. They mention City are interested in Mangala for example which was true as a couple of months later he came out and confirmed it. Did any of the Fab's relatives came out and said he was going to Chelsea? Or did the likes of Di Marzio already talked about it 2-3 weeks before it happened? Do you think they just predict the future and hope for the best?

If you still believe that anything that is not directly coming out of players/their agents then you still live under a stone and not using the internet to its full ability. Long gone are the days of transfers being done straight away, now it is always starting with a rumor and eventually develop. Rumors are not always bs either, sometime they are real.

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I want us to remain strong in midfield, if we are about to add another midfielder, get Pogb/Vidal type.

Now with Fabregas here, I prefer Oscar ahead of Kroos. Oscar runs more, works harder and can be realy dangerous as he did vs Croatia.

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Only way I can see it is if there's a significant outgoing. Either Ramires or Oscar.

In other words, not happening. Unless we're taking the Real Madrid/Barca/Bayern route of "you can never have enough top class players."

4-3-3

----------Costa-----------

Hazard-----------Willian

---------Fabregas---------

----Matic---------Kroos----

Luis----Terry----Cahill----Azpi

------------Courtois-------------

That is unbelievable. You could question whether that's enough cover defensively in midfield but our back 4 and keeper are so good and Matic covers so much of the pitch that I think it would work.

OR

--------------------Costa------------------

Hazard---------Fabregas---------Oscar

-----------Matic------------Kroos----------

Luis----------Terry--------Cahill----------Azpi

-----------------Courtois---------------------

AND

---------------Costa------------------

Hazard------------------------------OScar

--------Kroos-------------Fabregas

-------------------Matic-------------

Luis----------Terry--------Cahill----------Azpi

-----------------Courtois---------------------

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Dont know why 4-2-3-1 seems to be a sure shot formation for next season.

Yes, we have played it for some time now, but with Jose's emphasis on defensive discipline for all players, i dont think this formation is set in stone.

I would rather prefer a 4-1-4-1 for most games, and 4-2-3-1 only for away games at other big teams.

4-1-4-1

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That being said, with Schurlle salah and the host of talent we have on the bench, i dont think there is any space for Kroos to get in, unless Oscar is sold, which i dont think is wise. He will come good with Fabregas and Costa added in the team. Too much quality will reduce the pressure on Oscar and Hazard to make something special happen.

Kroos would be great, but there simply is no space for him.

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If we sign Kroos i am pretty sure Oscar would be moved back the right and Willian would rotate with both Fabregas and Oscar.

This is somthing to take in mind if the Kroos rumores are true. I can't see Willian to be placed before Oscar in the line up. Mourinho is no idiot he knows the kid has 22 years old and can improve would be atleast stupid to sell him.

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Dont know why 4-2-3-1 seems to be a sure shot formation for next season.

Yes, we have played it for some time now, but with Jose's emphasis on defensive discipline for all players, i dont think this formation is set in stone.

I would rather prefer a 4-1-4-1 for most games, and 4-2-3-1 only for away games at other big teams.

4-1-4-1

YHnNaq6.jpg

That being said, with Schurlle salah and the host of talent we have on the bench, i dont think there is any space for Kroos to get in, unless Oscar is sold, which i dont think is wise. He will come good with Fabregas and Costa added in the team. Too much quality will reduce the pressure on Oscar and Hazard to make something special happen.

Kroos would be great, but there simply is no space for him.

Formations are just pretty numbers to say and regardless of which formation we used, Mourinho will always place emphasis on everyone doing their defensive work. It's not set in stone that one system is much more defensive solid than others. And the reason why the 4-2-3-1 seemed to have been mentioned a lot as our starting formation is because Mourinho favors it and he has admitted himself IIRC. He has been use that as his main system since at Inter Milan with the 4-3-3, 4-3-1-2, 3-5-2 etc being his alternatives.

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