Tomo 20,848 Posted January 19, 2014 Share Posted January 19, 2014 I remember April last year when Bertrand got his run off games in Cole's absence and that's when people started to say he won't be Cole's long term successor.Ferreira hardly ever had a terrible game for us yet that didn't stop people pining for a new RB for pretty much his whole time here.I don't agree with the loan because he is a very good squad player but this is yet another case off a players reputation being enchanced by not playing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The only place to be 11,313 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 You can't be further from the truth even if you tried, just last month the decision to bench him for dave was met by widespread criticism from fans (not neccessarily on talkchelsea) and the media in general who still think it's 2006. I can only imagine if it was berttrand that took his place instead. in regards to walcott, many still view him as that all pace and no brain player who pops up with goals now and then. I was referring to general opinion that's not exclusive to this siteYou must know different fans to me because Ashley Cole's decline has been noticeable to most people who follow this club for a while now. It's why there's such a groundswell of support for the signing of Shaw.What some consider negative is what others like me see as being realistic, blunt, honest and unbiased and that's what makes life intersting. we can't all be " positive and lovey dovey" otherwise football discussions on chelsea forums in general would generally just go along the lines ofI'm sure you do see yourself as those things, but the very fact that you think you're unburdened by bias is rather hilarious. Not to burst your little bubble but we all have ingrained biases, and I also think that every member here posts honestly.It's interesting that what you view as 'realistic' is what others view as negative. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,403 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Bertrand hoping to force his way into Hodgson's plans after securing regular football at Villa 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
didierforever 7,349 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 i just hope he plays really well forces his way into the team and into mou's plans.ideally i would like us to buy shaw now, and the next season bring back bertrand. and have these 2 as our LBs. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warning_Hazard 155 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Hopefully this lad will be back next season, was quality in the CL final! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
5354 204 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Just saw the MOTD highlightshe played a important part in preventing west ham goal in 1st halfbut 2nd half got tricked or skinned by downing to send a cross in for the first goal. i wont say it is his fault, but he got tricked a little bit far to easily though. the left midfield didnt help him out. was it abonlahor? or delpth?however the central defense could had do better to mark nolan. not sure what baker was doing by leaving nolan free. delth was ball watching Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLion. 21,484 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I watched the extended highlights on Football First just to watch Berty's performance. Very average. He does some excellent work, only to undo it. The way Downing skipped past him was embarrassing. And people say he's better than Shaw? Still not convinced. I think Villa is about his level, in truth. Villa are a great club with a wonderful history, but they are building for the future and they have an onus on players of around Ryan's age. He'll get good positional security at Villa and it might enhance his overall game by playing regularly. Good player, just not quite Chelsea first-choice LB standard in my honest opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ja1 1,166 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/2/17/5418584/ryan-bertrand-aston-villa-loan-future Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 http://weaintgotnohistory.sbnation.com/2014/2/17/5418584/ryan-bertrand-aston-villa-loan-futureI love Ryan as a player. That's why I hope we sell him to Villa or any other mid-table team at the end of the season. He really is capable of having a very good career and even being a regular with the NT if he keeps playing regularly. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BloodIsBlue 291 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 He's perfect for Villa. The way they play he'll be a key player.I can see why some of you feel letting him go would be best for him, its probably true. Shaw will come here eventually maybe not this year but eventually he will be a Chelsea player. The question is do we use Ryan or PVA to fill in for that season or two? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The only place to be 11,313 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Played for about 70 minutes in the Newcastle game and was probably one of their worst players, although that might be harsh as no-one was any good in the match. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eidur the Spider 4,515 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Lovely little ball through for Villa that eventually led to an own goal. Well in, Ryan! He learned that at the Bridge 4-1 not even half time yet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Was quite good today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,403 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fernando 6,105 Posted March 14, 2014 Share Posted March 14, 2014 Future at Chelsea? In the bench to fill the homegrown quote ala Turnbull. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jase 43,403 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Looks like Bertrand has had enough and I don't blame him..http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/ryan-bertrand-would-consider-permanent-6876145“It’s flattering to hear what Jose Mourinho said but there’s no more waiting around for me in terms of wanting to be a Chelsea player,” said Bertrand.“Come the summer I need to be the No.1 left-back, wherever that will be.“I have ambitions but I have to be realistic as well. I will sit down and consider all my options.“Staying here isn’t something I would rule out. I’ve had years of playing but since I was 17 I have been on loan, basically.‘‘I’ve spent the past few years at Chelsea, in and out of the team, and the experience I’ve gained from that is I’m happy just playing. That’s what it comes down to in football.“If you’re getting the respect from your peers that you deserve, that means a lot.” 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Bye bye birdie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CHOULO19 24,332 Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 The thing is, he's a really decent LB. I'd take him in a heart beat over the likes of Gibbs and Flanagan. But we're just looking for better than that. I really like Ryan, and I think making a permanent move to Villa, or even replacing Shaw at Southampton, would be good for him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzchap 8,825 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 The thing is, he's a really decent LB. I'd take him in a heart beat over the likes of Gibbs and Flanagan. But we're just looking for better than that. I really like Ryan, and I think making a permanent move to Villa, or even replacing Shaw at Southampton, would be good for him.A deal with Southampton for Shaw and Bertrand + cash going the other way makes a lot of sense 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
didierforever 7,349 Posted March 27, 2014 Share Posted March 27, 2014 A deal with Southampton for Shaw and Bertrand + cash going the other way makes a lot of sense Not really. Specially if pochetino stays. Bertrand is good defensively but offers very little up ahead. Soton like their fullbacks getting forward and helping. Dont think he fits the bill for them Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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