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27 minutes ago, manpe said:

1. What counter measures could they have taken? Somehow burn them all while fighting zombies?

2. Agreed, that was kinda dumb but made a good scene with the fading lights in distance showing newly found hope quickly dying. But what their actual plan was, I don't know.

3. She knew where Bran was, she knows this forrest well, so she probably found a hiding place and camped out until Night King appeared. She didn't need to go head-to-head with a bunch of zombies this time. It looked easy and I wish they would have shown how she did it, but it was a typical "last second save" scene (of which there were plenty in this episode) so showing that would have ruined it. But it was kinda obvious it was gonna be her, they never showed her after that epiphany scene with the fire lady so she was the only left who could do anything.

4. Have to agree it is ridiculous how Jon has survived all the odds in situations where any other side character would have been killed in seconds. Like the scene where Night King resurrects the dead and he's surrounded by fucking hundreds or thousands, give me a fucking break that he still has the stamina to fight them off as long as he did. But it's all fiction, so...

5. Don't understand what point exactly you're trying to make here.

 

The winter didn't last 1 night, what do you mean? It's still lasting and will last for a while longer. The first ~5-6 seasons were during the long summer, now it's the long winter. These are seasons.

 

I honestly don't think he was doing anything meaningful. I think he was merely using the birds to track Night King's movement, that's it.

 

Btw, I also thought the Night King was a Targaryen given that he can fly a dragon and survived dragon flame. I guess he was just a very salty and mute badass zombie. But I REALLY hope that they give him some more backstory in the next episodes, his character and his end left a really shallow feeling in the end.

1. I would definitely have had some counter measure. If I remember correctly Edd even says, "the last one standing burns the others". I mean is not it obvious. If you lose 10000 soldiers while killing 100,000 wights, what's the point? NK gained another 10,000 to his army. I don't know how that counter measure would and could have been, but given that they took 2 Yeats to show 7/8 episodes while spending millions, I sure as hell hoped they would have shown something truly spectacular. 

3. Fair point. Still feels a bit like a hasty moment.

5. Basically convenience. They wanted to show a moment of absolute despair. Ice dragon in winterfell creating havoc, NK upon bran, no way out yada yada yada. Given that 2 dragons and one massive werewolf is still alive, where were they. When everything ended, drogon popped up, he might as well have tried a bit harder to save his own mother and most of humanity.

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26 minutes ago, bakayokofan said:

1. I would definitely have had some counter measure. If I remember correctly Edd even says, "the last one standing burns the others". I mean is not it obvious. If you lose 10000 soldiers while killing 100,000 wights, what's the point? NK gained another 10,000 to his army. I don't know how that counter measure would and could have been, but given that they took 2 Yeats to show 7/8 episodes while spending millions, I sure as hell hoped they would have shown something truly spectacular. 

3. Fair point. Still feels a bit like a hasty moment.

5. Basically convenience. They wanted to show a moment of absolute despair. Ice dragon in winterfell creating havoc, NK upon bran, no way out yada yada yada. Given that 2 dragons and one massive werewolf is still alive, where were they. When everything ended, drogon popped up, he might as well have tried a bit harder to save his own mother and most of humanity.

1. Dragons would have probably been the best bet to burn the corpses, yeah. But as the writers at the end of the episode explained, their whole plan was fucked the moment Dany got on her dragon too soon, so from there on they were all pretty much improvising. Maybe they had a plan, but couldn't execute it anymore. I don't know exactly what their plan was tbh, but their goal was to lure out the Night King somehow. Another thing is that other people were put into the crypt with a bunch of dead bodies lol... but I give them the benefit of doubt, they probably didn't know that people who died earlier or weren't close to Night King could be resurrected.

5. Yeah I don't know where the dragons were. One of them was fighting off zombies from itself, the other I don't know or don't remember what happened. Did it die? But without Dany and Jon guiding them, they were probably confused, tired and scared themselves and didn't know what to do. So once Drogon fended off the zombies and gathered its composure it came back looking for Dany. Werewolf I remember only in the beginning for a few seconds, I don't remember seeing it later. It would die quickly anyway in a fight with zombies, don't think it survived long (or was scared shitless and fled south lol).

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1 hour ago, manpe said:

1. Dragons would have probably been the best bet to burn the corpses, yeah. But as the writers at the end of the episode explained, their whole plan was fucked the moment Dany got on her dragon too soon, so from there on they were all pretty much improvising. Maybe they had a plan, but couldn't execute it anymore. I don't know exactly what their plan was tbh, but their goal was to lure out the Night King somehow. Another thing is that other people were put into the crypt with a bunch of dead bodies lol... but I give them the benefit of doubt, they probably didn't know that people who died earlier or weren't close to Night King could be resurrected.

5. Yeah I don't know where the dragons were. One of them was fighting off zombies from itself, the other I don't know or don't remember what happened. Did it die? But without Dany and Jon guiding them, they were probably confused, tired and scared themselves and didn't know what to do. So once Drogon fended off the zombies and gathered its composure it came back looking for Dany. Werewolf I remember only in the beginning for a few seconds, I don't remember seeing it later. It would die quickly anyway in a fight with zombies, don't think it survived long (or was scared shitless and fled south lol).

The dire wolf is alive. There's a shot of him in the preview for ep 4. 

 

 

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They just killed my favorite show. D & D destroyed Dany's character to make her look like the villain for no fucking reason. Spoilers basically confirm Jon will kill Dany in the last episode, he will go back to Castle Black to help the wildlings rebuild because of guilt and Bran takes the throne. One of the most ridiculous endings ever.

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4 hours ago, Nicco said:

They just killed my favorite show. D & D destroyed Dany's character to make her look like the villain for no fucking reason. Spoilers basically confirm Jon will kill Dany in the last episode, he will go back to Castle Black to help the wildlings rebuild because of guilt and Bran takes the throne. One of the most ridiculous endings ever.

Bro, I know the title says this thread is full of spoilers but I was always of the thought that was for episodes already aired. Why the fuck would you start posting about endings in here. If thats what happens then fuck you very much.

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1 hour ago, DDA said:

Bro, I know the title says this thread is full of spoilers but I was always of the thought that was for episodes already aired. Why the fuck would you start posting about endings in here. If thats what happens then fuck you very much.

Sorry, I saw people have been posting ending theories and since no one was minding the spoilers I posted what I saw on reddit here to vent some of my frustrations.

I heard D&D made multiple endings to avoid this so it might be a fake leak to fool the fans, I sure hope so because it sounds awful.

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4 hours ago, Nicco said:

Sorry, I saw people have been posting ending theories and since no one was minding the spoilers I posted what I saw on reddit here to vent some of my frustrations.

I heard D&D made multiple endings to avoid this so it might be a fake leak to fool the fans, I sure hope so because it sounds awful.

Yea, I heard there are multiple endings too. I really hope it isn't what you said. That would top off what so far has been a pretty mediocre season.

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On 5/7/2019 at 8:08 PM, Laylabelle said:

I havent seen any of this since season one so all I know is people die, shit keeps going down and there was a coffee cup! 

Thanos defeats the night king.

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On 07/05/2019 at 8:08 PM, Laylabelle said:

I havent seen any of this since season one so all I know is people die, shit keeps going down and there was a coffee cup! 

The roast is dark and full of errors

Image result for game of thrones starbucks

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Just watched ep 5

The story is just so ridiculous in season 8.

Like i'm sorry but Dany goes from being " i wanna free people from tyranny" to burning women and children in the fucking streets.

Like come on now. 

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51 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Just watched ep 5

The story is just so ridiculous in season 8.

Like i'm sorry but Dany goes from being " i wanna free people from tyranny" to burning women and children in the fucking streets.

Like come on now. 

Absolutely ridiculous. Waste of time now. Nonsensical to say the least. 

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3 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

Just watched ep 5

The story is just so ridiculous in season 8.

Like i'm sorry but Dany goes from being " i wanna free people from tyranny" to burning women and children in the fucking streets.

Like come on now. 

I think there always has been an effort to build her character arc like that. She always had a few random mmoments of cruelty and recklessness in her in her Essos exploits. But this was always in moments where she was under pressure. This is why i think it is completely OTT for her to burn a city and endanger her armies after the battle is already won even though she lost her only two friends. Real shame she was my favourite character. Beautiful, strong, solid morals but no blind idealist, honorable idiot like Jon, Robb, Ned, doing what is necessary still having loads of class and superpowers such as riding dragons and immunity to fire. I don't buy Jon/Aegon being a better king. He is weaker then her, a poor strategist and tatcitican, always goes headless chicken in battles and is basically the same character as Robb or Ned Stark who unlike him paid the price for their bad leadership. The only difference is plot armor. Sansa would be a sensible alternative but she is a Stark and a stark would never rule in the south.

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6 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

I think there always has been an effort to build her character arc like that. She always had a few random mmoments of cruelty and recklessness in her in her Essos exploits. But this was always in moments where she was under pressure. This is why i think it is completely OTT for her to burn a city and endanger her armies after the battle is already won even though she lost her only two friends. Real shame she was my favourite character. Beautiful, strong, solid morals but no blind idealist, honorable idiot like Jon, Robb, Ned, doing what is necessary still having loads of class and superpowers such as riding dragons and immunity to fire. I don't buy Jon/Aegon being a better king. He is weaker then her, a poor strategist and tatcitican, always goes headless chicken in battles and is basically the same character as Robb or Ned Stark who unlike him paid the price for their bad leadership. The only difference is plot armor. Sansa would be a sensible alternative but she is a Stark and a stark would never rule in the south.

Yeah there were moments of cruelty but i could always understand why she did what she did. There was always some reasoning behind it. Like burning the Tarlys. I had no problem with it because she gave them a choice.

But burning women, children and soldiers that had surrendered like why ? 

She had won, the city was hers why then destroy it all and kill everyone. It doesn't make any sense. 

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Mental episode. Didnt quite expect Dany to go as mad as she did, burning an entire city basically but hey ho. Quite gutted she didn't torch Cersei with her dragon. But yeah fuck it, was a good watch I felt. That Gregor Clegane is an absolute mutant thank fuck he died. 

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16 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

Just watched ep 5

The story is just so ridiculous in season 8.

Like i'm sorry but Dany goes from being " i wanna free people from tyranny" to burning women and children in the fucking streets.

Like come on now. 

Whenever a Targaryen is born, the gods flip a coin.

Season 1, Episode 6, you knew after that she was going to snap at the end of the day.

 

 

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