Daniel1980 1,425 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Well he scored but let's be honest he was a headless chicken himself. As a no.10 you need a lot more. This is not the only game. He needs to do more than keep running around. If people slate Fred tonight then as much criticism goes to Oscar. No creativity from the midfield. The no.10 who was meant to be Oscar created nothing and seemed shy to even receive the ball until the last minutes of the game. For club and country he needs to do more because right now and like I have said before his game is limited on the offensive side of things.Yes, his lack of creativity for #10 is worrying, but everyone in the team was shit, not only him. I don't think he deserves to be made the scapegoat. I bet Neymar is glad right now that he missed this match and won't be blamed. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Korea 734 Posted July 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2014 Well he scored but let's be honest he was a headless chicken himself. As a no.10 you need a lot more. This is not the only game. He needs to do more than keep running around. If people slate Fred tonight then as much criticism goes to Oscar. No creativity from the midfield. The no.10 who was meant to be Oscar created nothing and seemed shy to even receive the ball until the last minutes of the game. For club and country he needs to do more because right now and like I have said before his game is limited on the offensive side of things.David Luiz longball the ball all the time. You really dont know if Scolari was trying to make that his strategy to completely bypass the cms.Oscar was not good today, but it was a team effort in their lost and everyone should be blame... 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Korea 734 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Yes, his lack of creativity for #10 is worrying, but everyone in the team was shit, not only him. I don't think he deserves to be made the scapegoat. I bet Neymar is glad right now that he missed this match and won't be blamed. Oscar wont be scapegoat.Its going to be FRED.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Mikel OBE 4,468 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Calm down haters its not his fault the defense was garbage today.He scored atleast. Nobody is blaming him for the defense. They are calling him out for the shit show on offense where he along with Fred and hulk looked worse than shit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mufassir08 2,400 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Technically he really is very poor for a No#10. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Korea 734 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Nobody is blaming him for the defense. They are calling him out for the shit show on offense where he along with Fred and hulk looked worse than shit.Brazil, offensively were never really insync this tournament. A pk, neymar brilliant play and thats CB set piece goal. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Mikel OBE 4,468 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Well he scored but let's be honest he was a headless chicken himself. As a no.10 you need a lot more. This is not the only game. He needs to do more than keep running around. If people slate Fred tonight then as much criticism goes to Oscar. No creativity from the midfield. The no.10 who was meant to be Oscar created nothing and seemed shy to even receive the ball until the last minutes of the game. For club and country he needs to do more because right now and like I have said before his game is limited on the offensive side of things.Exactly. Fred sucks ass but he got no service. The creativity was lacking Luiz had to keep bombing forward to try to create some type of spark. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post TorontoChelsea 4,064 Posted July 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2014 He won't be the scapegoat, you can't give up 7 goals and scapegoat the #10 but he played most of this World Cup like he played the second half for Chelsea. Running around, pressing. It's all useful defensively, but as we saw last season, you need some creativity from the #10 or you won't break teams down. It's possible that this is what Oscar just is and that's still a good player but we had all hoped (and still hope) for more. 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Mikel OBE 4,468 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Brazil, offensively were never really insync this tournament. A pk, neymar brilliant play and thats CB set piece goal. Exactly. And that is big Phil's fault. He should carry all the burden. Hulk kept playing despite being awful. Oscar kept starting despite not even being in "ok" form all year. Shakhtar benchwarmer over willian(which I am reluctant to call out since Bernard looked the offensive guy trying out there)Big Phil messed it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AndersonBLUE 819 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 He has had 1 good game this world cup. Which mean he has had only 1 good game in half a year. Not good enough 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Korea 734 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Exactly. And that is big Phil's fault. He should carry all the burden.Hulk kept playing despite being awful.Oscar kept starting despite not even being in "ok" form all year.Shakhtar benchwarmer over willian(which I am reluctant to call out since Bernard looked the offensive guy trying out there)Big Phil messed it.Now really that many replacements for the ams.people say countinho, but rodgers is already trying to find replacements for him. Lucas never fitted well with brazil, yet..Firmio is tba. Not bringing luis, miranda are not that big of mistakes because neither of them would of played a significant role this summer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Mikel OBE 4,468 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Now really that many replacements for the ams.people say countinho, but rodgers is already trying to find replacements for him. Lucas never fitted well with brazil, yet..Firmio is tba. Not bringing luis, miranda are not that big of mistakes because neither of them would of played a significant role this summer. If we didn't have a surplus of attackers we'd be just like Rodgers looking for a replacement for Oscar because you can't really believe he was any better than coutinho. Difference was Liverpool had Moses coming off the bench while we had quality like scürrle.I agree on the defensive point though. The fact alves started this tournament over maicon shows the plot was lost. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
drog.ba 239 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 He'll improve, clearly out form and needs a rest or something, played shit loads the past 2 years; probably should've been on the bench for Brazil if they had better options. Still thought he was one of Brazils better players tonight, even if that isn't saying a lot. Need to remember he is only 22, same age as Salah but people expect a lot more consistency and for him to be a regularIf he'd been player #10 for Germany I think he'd look better than Kroos did 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post The only place to be 11,313 Posted July 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2014 Now really that many replacements for the ams.Sign Kroos or Pogba and push Fabregas forward.Play Schurrle either as 10 or move him to left-wing and put Hazard there.I hope Oscar improves because I think he has a lot of tools, but he's been poor for a while now. At some point it stops being a phase and starts being the norm. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Korea 734 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Sign Kroos or Pogba and push Fabregas forward.Play Schurrle either as 10 or move him to right-wing and put Hazard there.I hope Oscar improves because I think he has a lot of tools, but he's been poor for a while now. At some point it stops being a phase and starts being the norm.i meant for brazil nt. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RoyalBlues 4,050 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 I still feel this will not make him worse. It will make him stronger and even better player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Jype 5,758 Posted July 8, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted July 8, 2014 Bayern Munich recovered after we beat them on their own backyard and came back stronger than ever the following season. Now they suffered a 4-0 defeat at the Allianz to Real Madrid only a little while back and look how their German players are performing at the World Cup now. People are underestimating the mental strength of professional footballers. I’m certain Oscar and the rest of the Brazil boys will take this as a lesson learnt and use this experience to drive them to bigger and better things in the future. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
11Drogba 1,999 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Bayern Munich recovered after we beat them on their own backyard and came back stronger than ever the following season. Now they suffered a 4-0 defeat at the Allianz to Real Madrid only a little while back and look how their German players are performing at the World Cup now.People are underestimating the mental strength of professional footballers. I’m certain Oscar and the rest of the Brazil boys will take this as a lesson learnt and use this experience to drive them to bigger and better things in the future. Germans lost two world wars and recovered. I think you are overestimating the mental strength of other nations by comparing them with the Germans. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Madmax 9,219 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Bayern Munich recovered after we beat them on their own backyard and came back stronger than ever the following season. Now they suffered a 4-0 defeat at the Allianz to Real Madrid only a little while back and look how their German players are performing at the World Cup now.People are underestimating the mental strength of professional footballers. I’m certain Oscar and the rest of the Brazil boys will take this as a lesson learnt and use this experience to drive them to bigger and better things in the future. Tend to agree. Italy in 2006 after calciopolli is another example. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iseah100 5,606 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Poor Oscar. Why the fuck did Willian not start? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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