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Went to one of our sisterboards and checked the oscar thread...

Dear god, the oscar hatred was staggering

http://www.chelseafcforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10117&start=1080

Plz do remind me to never go into that forum again.. They take their love of Mata so seriously that they slag off Oscar who has been very good even in games when hes been good

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In 2012 I predicted he would become a better player than Eden Hazard. With the help of my friends and family I have since been able to overcome my crack addiction

Hazard is Hazard, Oscar is Oscar and Mata is Mata.

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Or they should hire someone who also speaks Portuguese (I am available) so they can interview all our Portuguese speaking players! :ph34r:

Willian, Oscar, Ramires, Piazon, Luiz, Jose and maybe even more!

Dream job isnt it ?

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Plz do remind me to never go into that forum again.. They take their love of Mata so seriously that they slag off Oscar who has been very good even in games when hes been good

Barbara would fit right in :P

You would expect them, also being a 'chelsea fansite', to have a lot of common ground with us. But no, it's like they live on a completely different planet.

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Went to one of our sisterboards and checked the oscar thread...

Dear god, the oscar hatred was staggering

http://www.chelseafcforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=10117&start=1080

Every forum is different I feel, and every one seems to have a general consensus. Theirs is just different. Though I do agree that he needs to be more consistent in his game and improve in the final third; let's just say they seem to have a more aggressive way of putting it.

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I have an account there too (the same name) and under 10 posts... and I had no idea that was how they talked about our players, not only Oscar.

I've resisted the temptation of answering them.

Such limited views of the game and why is it so hard for people to understand he's 22!!!!!!!! Mata was nowhere near where Oscar is in their development curve when he was 22... nowhere near being the #10 in Spain (oh wait, he still isn't at age 25), nowhere near being #10 to a club as big as Chelsea, he didn't have as much responsibility (still doesn't at age 25) to help the team in all areas, and a lot of stuff.

People get easily spoiled by wonder boys such as Messi and Hazard. That's not the rule, no 22yo is already incredible, but you can see the potential, you can see the skills, you can imagine how high their ceiling is... the vision in that forum is immediate, limited, biased and with all honesty, bitter, because their golden boy wears a different number.

I'm just relieved to know those people (here, there, on Twitter, on tumblr and whatever else) aren't the majority at the Bridge. Not sure if on purpose or not, but instead of hearing chants for Mata in the 10th minutes, they were chanting Mourinho. You could see a couple of signs about Mata, but I've seen more about Mourinho's birthday. The support that actually goes to the stadium isn't criticizing Mourinho - which I think it's important. The fans going to the matches aren't putting unnecessary pressure on Oscar.

I laughed out loud when one of the members in that forum said that if Oscar doesn't start performing like Mata, he'll be the first to ask him to be benched. LOL FOREVER, my friend, you may as well start a petition because as far as I know who benches players is Mourinho, not fans. They spoke so much shit. Oscar's passing is erratic at points, I agree, but saying he loses the ball 50% of time he has it (summing incomplete passes and dispossession) is not only ridiculous but also a lie. Saying he has no skills and class is as much ridiculous. Seriously, I don't get how people can criticize their own player to that extent unless said player is really bad. You may not like Oscar's profile, you may prefer a different kind of player, but to say he's shit, has no class, no skill, no vision, loses 50% of balls he touches and all the BS they spouted, is ridiculous.

The joke is on them though (and whoever agrees). Mourinho and Brazil NT's manager disagree with them... and they don't seem inclined to change their instances at all. But it was a good laugh mixed with a bit of anger :lol: a good reminder to never come back there

Thanks Barbara, you never disappoint. :D

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'The free-kick obviously makes us happy because Oscar dedicates some time every day after the normal training session to train on a specific thing"

Mourinho after the match. That's the kind of thing I really appreciate in a player. When they stay after training sessions to try to improve personal skills. I had no idea Oscar does it. He's mentioned in the interview, but I was under the impression he meant free-kicks, but Mourinho makes is sound like he's trying to improve different (specific) aspects of his game.

Hats off, kiddo.

on a different note for BBC 5 Live:

"I like people to be happy. I'm so sorry I couldn't make him happy in this squad - I'm so sad with that, but I build my team around Oscar playing as my No.10."

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He is like a fish out of water. Chelsea TV needs to stop torturing him with the interviews! :lol:

Haha...I remember Oscar's first interview with Neil Barnett, when he had Piazon alongside him to translate...Oscar told Piazon to just say anything to Neil and get done with it asap...

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gotta be honest: If Oscar doesn't score a goal he's pretty much useless offensively. I just see him as a Ramirez with slightly better passing and finishing. It's just something about his style of play that makes me wish he were more influential in our build up play. I do think he fits better in our system than Mata though.

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gotta be honest: If Oscar doesn't score a goal he's pretty much useless offensively. I just see him as a Ramirez with slightly better passing and finishing. It's just something about his style of play that makes me wish he were more influential in our build up play. I do think he fits better in our system than Mata though.

This is the guy who makes the most tackles/wins the ball back in the team with Ramires, and he's useless when he doesn't score? his work rate and stamina are immense, out of this world for an offensive player. he's not your typical flashy number 10, he's a workaholic and more of a direct player than the likes of Mata/Ozil/Silva who like to keep the ball between their feet. he does the job.

If everyone in our team works as hard as Oscar does in our team, we would dominate.

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Its one thing that bothers me...he is hardworker and tries to run whole game, but after 65min or sth, he starts to look tired and that reflects on his playmaking abilities. Thats why we start to lose control and composure of the game.

Sure in couple of years, his stamina will improve though.

Another thing is that he is oftenly very invisible at playmaking. He tracks and runs, but he just isnt creative. He was quite bad vs Stoke before he scored that goal. After, hw was amazing. Good thing he is only 22 and has time to understand the game and improve.

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gotta be honest: If Oscar doesn't score a goal he's pretty much useless offensively. I just see him as a Ramirez with slightly better passing and finishing. It's just something about his style of play that makes me wish he were more influential in our build up play. I do think he fits better in our system than Mata though.

You joking right!! mata is world class agreed but that doesnt mean oscar isnt too!!

I keep hearing oscar cant pass and dribble....You need to remember .....last season oscar had quite a few brilliant dribbles but now the team style has changed

With RDM the front 4 had no contact with back 4(it was always 4-1-4.)..they worked as 2 units now u see a team defending with 4-5-1 and attacking with 4-1-5 ...imagine how difficult that is....

Mata did try and he wasnt that bad but he got outmuscled quite a few times and he doesnt know how to tackle.....

Oscar challenges for the ball and creates opportunities(infact i remember 2 great crosses beofre the freekick in last match that would have been scored by a better striker!!)...yes sometimes his passes are not that great but did you see the reaction of stoke everytime he got the ball....to instill that kind of panic mode is gift from god...remember watching lampard at his best....

and for god sake he is 22!!!

and like ramires with better passing and finishing....was that a dig or a compliment?!!-apparently a player with excellent technical ability and with great finishing and pace and with added gifts of good passing and skills not good enough!!!

We all loved mata but get over it...oscar is just as important as hazard to this team

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It's kinda funny that during the freekick, I think I had a moment when I thought how cool it would've been had Mata been the one taking it. And then that happened.

It all goes to show how blinded we've become for our little magician. There's no denying Mata's talent and awesomeness, I love that guy. Perhaps even more than I do Oscar. But I hope we finally come back to our senses to realize that Oscar is the one who is our future. Mata is brilliant, of course, but Oscar can be even more so (if not already). Mourinho is like the strict but loving father in this case. He takes the tough decision, and does the thing that has made us upset, but in the end it's for our benefit.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm so excited about our players! Oscar, Hazard, Willian, Matic...even Salah all look oh so good for this team. I'm glad Mata is at a place where he can play now, and that the pressure on our manager and entire squad has been lifted because of this move.

That free kick, I think, is just a sign of things to come. Oscar is going to be even more fantastic for us, God willing. I can feel it.

Me I've always liked Oscar more than Mata.

Don't get me wrong, Mata is a good player but like Cole at Lille, he was good at giving the ball back to his run but other players have to make the run, carry the ball for him.

Last year Mata had an excellent year but look at the support Mata had when he was drifting to the right. All three of our most hard working players Ramires, Azpi, Oscar were there or drifting there. Mata couldn't have more support.

Look at the left side, Cole Lampard or Mikel, the slowest and less running players.

Against Shaktar, the only good periods we had was when Oscar and Hazard were working together on the left. No wonder that Jose Mourinho prefers these two to Mata.

I wasn't found of Mourinho in the beginning of the season but not because of Mata treatment, more because we were playing very poorly, slow at the back at that time.

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You joking right!! mata is world class agreed but that doesnt mean oscar isnt too!!

I keep hearing oscar cant pass and dribble....You need to remember .....last season oscar had quite a few brilliant dribbles but now the team style has changed

With RDM the front 4 had no contact with back 4(it was always 4-1-4.)..they worked as 2 units now u see a team defending with 4-5-1 and attacking with 4-1-5 ...imagine how difficult that is....

Mata did try and he wasnt that bad but he got outmuscled quite a few times and he doesnt know how to tackle.....

Oscar challenges for the ball and creates opportunities(infact i remember 2 great crosses beofre the freekick in last match that would have been scored by a better striker!!)...yes sometimes his passes are not that great but did you see the reaction of stoke everytime he got the ball....to instill that kind of panic mode is gift from god...remember watching lampard at his best....

and for god sake he is 22!!!

and like ramires with better passing and finishing....was that a dig or a compliment?!!-apparently a player with excellent technical ability and with great finishing and pace and with added gifts of good passing and skills not good enough!!!

We all loved mata but get over it...oscar is just as important as hazard to this team

yea you pretty much said what I was saying. I never mentioned Oscar's dribbling as a problem. When was the last brilliant pass he made? Like I said, he is better for the system due to his work rate and directness, but his vision and passing is average.

Idk why the Oscar fanboys have to defend every ability of Oscar's.

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