bababoom 4,478 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Hazard is a winger, he's not solely a creative player like Silva or Iniesta, he has totally different skill sets. Also Neymar better than Bale/Hazard? Give me a break. Bale>Hazard>Neymar. Bale right now it better than Hazard, he's way more consistent, Hazard at his best is better but we only get that five games a season. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZOS 580 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Bale is better long passer and crosses the ball as good as anyone... I don't know what makes you say that but I agree Hazard needs to work on his corners ... and now that both Lamps and Luiz are gone, we might be in for quite a treat from him in-regards to free kicks Bale is better in set piece situations yeah, I said he's the better athlete ... but I don't know how much that takes away from Hazard given his role in the team. (Messi/Iniesta/Robben/Gotze/Reus in my mind) Bale has superior physical attributes and far more aggressive than Hazard. yeah, he's faster too ... but that wont make him better than a guy who takes PKs without looking at the ball Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 So for everybody,bale is better than robben ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 So for everybody,bale is better than robben ?Yea 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Yeait's true, last season bale was very good in both champion league and copa del rey final. the tika taka was not good for robben and bayern that why i'm sad for lewandowski. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 it's true, last season bale was very good in both champion league and copa del rey final. the tika taka was not good for robben and bayern that why i'm sad for lewandowski.Lewa should have come here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Lewa should have come here!It's true mate ! perfect striker for us. If only bayern doesn't win the champions league, i think instead of bayern, he would go to a premier league club (us). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Skipper 20,593 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 So for everybody,bale is better than robben ?They're on the same level for me, because IMO Bale isn't on Messi/Ronaldo level. No one is. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 They're on the same level for me, because IMO Bale isn't on Messi/Ronaldo level. No one is.In term of stat yes but in term of impact in the game he's no far away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post The Skipper 20,593 Posted June 25, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2014 In term of stat yes but in term of impact in the game he's no far away.They are. Messi and Ronaldo basically highly impact games every game - Bale doesn't do it as consistently as either. No one is on their level or close to it IMO. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 They are. Messi and Ronaldo basically highly impact games every game - Bale doesn't do it as consistently as either.No one is on their level or close to it IMO. you're right. to inconsistent but in the big game he can make the differrence. But like hazard he's young we must wait to see is full potential. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Korea 734 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 So for everybody,bale is better than robben ?Talent wise, I put robben under Messi and thats it. But, he's crazy +knucklehead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thedrog108 39 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Talent wise, I put robben under Messi and thats it. But, he's crazy +knucklehead. LoL ! i think in his head he is the only one player on the field. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrExcalibur100 7,104 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I consider Hazard, Reus, Robben, Bale, Ribery (ok the guy has been poor recently) Di Maria and Alexis Sanchez to be the only true world class players (wingers). I don't consider guys like Neymar or Gotze to be on the same level (yet) as these players. I also don't see any of those guys being able to carry Chelsea the way Hazard did this past season. Maybe Bale, because he's done it before in the PL with Spurs. I just don't see a guy like Neymar being able to do that. He scores a couple of goals for Brazil and all of a sudden he's the best. As if club performances are not the bread and butter of evaluating a player's true level. Fickle, fickle, fickle. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Styles 9,790 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I really must be missing something about Bale because I just don't rate him that highly. He's an exceptional athlete with a good shot, but I consider him a supremely average footballer. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
iseah100 5,612 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I consider Hazard, Reus, Robben, Bale, Ribery (ok the guy has been poor recently) Di Maria and Alexis Sanchez to be the only true world class players (wingers). I don't consider guys like Neymar or Gotze to be on the same level (yet) as these players. I also don't see any of those guys being able to carry Chelsea the way Hazard did this past season. Maybe Bale, because he's done it before in the PL with Spurs. I just don't see a guy like Neymar being able to do that. He scores a couple of goals for Brazil and all of a sudden he's the best. As if club performances are not the bread and butter of evaluating a player's true level. Fickle, fickle, fickle. This. Neymar is nowhere near these guys, let alone Messi & Ronaldo. Reus and Bale are significantly better than him. Don't forget Zlatan on that list. And .....Suarez. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robsblubot 2,715 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I really must be missing something about Bale because I just don't rate him that highly. He's an exceptional athlete with a good shot, but I consider him a supremely average footballer.That's exactly how I used to think of him, until I watched last CL final.Unsurprisingly enough Ronaldo vanished and Bale was the player who made a difference. Yes, he missed an opportunity before equalizing, but kudos to him that he kept on trying.Bale is younger too and it was his first season in Spain. I don't think this is the best we are going to see from him.. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 Robben is clearly better than Bale and it's not debatable. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrExcalibur100 7,104 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 This. Neymar is nowhere near these guys, let alone Messi & Ronaldo. Reus and Bale are significantly better than him.Don't forget Zlatan on that list. And .....Suarez.I was just talking about wide players alone though. Anyway, this entire conversation is becoming boring and it all stemmed from the "usual suspect" poster or two spouting their usual nonsense disguised as an opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gilvorak 3,734 Posted June 25, 2014 Share Posted June 25, 2014 I really must be missing something about Bale because I just don't rate him that highly. He's an exceptional athlete with a good shot, but I consider him a supremely average footballer.He's a very average footballer yes. Terrible in tight spaces, average passer, average ball control, not a great dribbler & very one-footed.Bale is basically Theo Walcott on drugs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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