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According to the evening standard he has no intention of leaving. Good. Now we need to convince him to stay by putting truly world class players next to him, get Bernardo, and i think we would see a completely different Hazard, because he wouldnt be double marked all the time, because Pedro, as good as he is, doesnt require as much marking as a player like Silva could.

A Hazard-Costa-Silva front three is top 5 in the world

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5 minutes ago, lucashm said:

According to the evening standard he has no intention of leaving. Good. Now we need to convince him to stay by putting truly world class players next to him, get Bernardo, and i think we would see a completely different Hazard, because he wouldnt be double marked all the time, because Pedro, as good as he is, doesnt require as much marking as a player like Silva could.

A Hazard-Costa-Silva front three is top 5 in the world

Nah man that's bad news, because he would never play a pass like Neymar did yesterday. How will we ever cope with that?

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Just now, manpe said:

Nah man that's bad news, because he would never play a pass like Neymar did yesterday.

Your last post was superb and i agree with you. People these days are looking to underrate Hazard at every single opportunity. The dude didnt even played yesterday and yet, all i hear is that Hazard is overrated and not even close to Neymar, hell, i went tô red café yesterday after the game and all i saw was people bashing Hazard. Thats understandable though, United fans are still bitter that he rejected them and is miles better than any player they have

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11 minutes ago, lucashm said:

Your last post was superb and i agree with you. People these days are looking to underrate Hazard at every single opportunity. The dude didnt even played yesterday and yet, all i hear is that Hazard is overrated and not even close to Neymar, hell, i went tô red café yesterday after the game and all i saw was people bashing Hazard. Thats understandable though, United fans are still bitter that he rejected them and is miles better than any player they have

Word. One other thing - it was mentioned that Neymar, the greatest player of all time, has scored 8 goals in La Liga for the greatest club of all time. Eden Hazard, the incompetent fool who has phobia of shooting, has scored 11 in the English Premier League for a team that finished 10th last year. Now I may not have been the best at maths in school and I barely passed my exams, but I'm pretty sure 11 > 8.

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5 hours ago, LukakutoStamford said:

Do you even watch Hazard play? Do you understand why he doesn't touch the ball for certain stretches? Because he's receiving no service. 

Good grief, it's like discussing things with people who have no sense of nuance. 

Go rewatch the West Ham game and see how many times Eden has go back to Chelsea to initiate the Chelsea attack. 

The soccer IQ in here at times is embarassing. 

What!!!! 

Why are you making it seem like I said hazard is a non league player. I'm comparing him with Neymar ffs, a top 6 world class player and I mentioned the parts which Neymar is better than him, and mentioned hazards strengths over Neymar and where hazard can improve. 

What is wrong there with my post in wanting hazard to improve or add more to his game???  

I even said this ffs "Hazard has the talent to be easily better imo. Even lampard has recently said that he's the most talented player he has played with. But hazard needs more variety":doh:

 

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3 hours ago, kellzfresh said:

What!!!! 

Why are you making it seem like I said hazard is a non league player. I'm comparing him with Neymar ffs, a top 6 world class player and I mentioned the parts which Neymar is better than him, and mentioned hazards strengths over Neymar and where hazard can improve. 

What is wrong there with my post in wanting hazard to improve or add more to his game???  

I even said this ffs "Hazard has the talent to be easily better imo. Even lampard has recently said that he's the most talented player he has played with. But hazard needs more variety":doh:

 

He obviously didn't read your post properly. Some are very offended by the truth. You represented your argument well.

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22 hours ago, Belgiannutt said:

Disagree.

I'm saying this because Hazard hasn't had anywhere near as many great European performances against top teams as Neymar has. Also, internationally we know who's better. Neymar has better team mates yes, Hazard is supremely talented, and they used to be on the same level until about 2015. Since then Neymar has left him. 

The biggest thing Eden had over him was playmaking ability but now Neymar is better than him in that regards too it seems. Better goal scorer, better creator...

It isn't a debate at the moment in my opinion. Neymar is arguably the 2nd best in the world right now, due to Ronaldo's decline. Hazard isn't even top 5 at the moment.

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20 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

It isn't a debate at the moment in my opinion. Neymar is arguably the 2nd best in the world right now, due to Ronaldo's decline. Hazard isn't even top 5 at the moment.

No doubt Gini is in the top 5. :ph34r:

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25 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Hazard isn't even top 5 at the moment.

Who would be in your top 5 mate?? 

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7 hours ago, the wes said:

Who would be in your top 5 mate?? 

Right now? It's difficult outside the top 3 [Messi, Neymar, Ronaldo, in this order], as it gets quite close in terms of ability then. For me I'd probably complete it with any of Suarez, Kroos, Modric, Lewandowski and maybe Neuer, Busquets or Ramos, and then you have the likes who are on a similar level as Eden like Alexis, Bale, Griezmann, Thiago, KdB, Courtois, De Gea etc. 

In fact, some could argue he's not even top 10.

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On 9. 3. 2017 at 0:00 AM, The Skipper said:

Neymar > Hazard. Not even close now. Sorry guys. 

Neymar is a wonderful player indeed, but those dives are disgrace to football. Even Barca fans admited yesterday that he and Suarez are cunts when it comes to that.

On another note, should Eden play in barca, he would be on same level as Neymar, but different qualities. I have no doubt about it.

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Just now, BlueLyon said:

On another note, should Eden play in barca, he would be on same level as Neymar, but different qualities. I have no doubt about it.

This is probably true, but he's at Chelsea, and sadly Neymar has left him.

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9 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

This is probably true, but he's at Chelsea, and sadly Neymar has left him.

But if you look at championships only, Eden is having much better season so far. Neymar picked it up in past weeks, but was poor before.

And Busquets was having nightmare of season before recently too. Kante being best defensive midfielder of year so far deserves some mention in your list too, otherways you got all top performers right.

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8 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

But if you look at championships only, Eden is having much better season so far. Neymar picked it up in past weeks, but was poor before.

And Busquets was having nightmare of season before recently too.

Eden is very good domestically. He needs to elevate his level in very crucial games though. Like Didier, Lamps etc. used to do. Like Messi does. Like Suarez does. Like what Neymar just did. Eden hasn't done that here yet. @DYC. said it perfectly in his earlier post, Eden is basically still a 'talent' who still needs to add more to his game to get to that level. Neymar has already reached that though. Neymar has evolved his playmaking skills and tactical discipline, whilst retaining his goalscoring ability (not so much this season) and dribbling ability. He's complete now. Eden still isn't due to various reasons (not talent per se though).

I wouldn't say either were so poor particularly either earlier in the season on Busquets and Neymar. Barcelona have had lots of ups and downs, and their form have both reflected that. They've both also had some injuries so that affects form naturally too. Their latest down was a bit longer but they've roared it back now, and are in contention to actually win the treble.

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8 minutes ago, The Skipper said:

Eden is very good domestically. He needs to elevate his level in very crucial games though. Like Didier, Lamps etc. used to do. Like Messi does. Like Suarez does. Like what Neymar just did. Eden hasn't done that here yet. @DYC. said it perfectly in his earlier post, Eden is basically still a 'talent' who still needs to add more to his game to get to that level. Neymar has already reached that though. 

I wouldn't say either were so poor particularly either earlier in the season on Busquets and Neymar. Barcelona have had lots of ups and downs, and their form have both reflected that. They've both also had some injuries so that affects form naturally too. Their latest down was a bit longer but they've roared it back now, and are in contention to actually win the treble.

True. Eden strikes me as that kid with unlimited potential, but he needs to grow. I think he will peak at around 28, hopefuly still here.

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He will stay here for the rest of his career most likely.

He will go down as one of the chelsea all time greats,atleast that is what i hope for but can see it easely happen.

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20 hours ago, manpe said:

It is not a problem. This is why you have different players in the squad, to give balance and not be one-dimensional. I feel Pedro compensates what Eden lacks very well and Eden compensates what Pedro lacks. This is one of the reasons why we have been so good this season going forward as opposed to when Hazard and Willian were playing together. Hazard is or at least should be a central player like he prefers and like he has been this season. He is more a playmaker than a runner and scorer, every Chelsea fan should have figured it out by now. If you force Hazard to be something he is not you take away the positives from his game (see last season for reference).

And people saying he would never play a ball like Neymar yesterday and other shit should get a grip. Unprovoked negativity, Hazard had absolutely nothing to do with yesterday's game yet he's still brought up over here in bad light. It's alarming to me that you rate our star player so poorly that you bash him every time you get a stiff one on something somebody else in some other team does. Would Neymar have scored THAT goal against Arsenal? Let's think about that for a second. Sometimes I get these evil thoughts and wish he would just go, so I could read those same people crying and moaning like always. You lot deserve Kalouda.

I agree with you partly but if you are referring to me with the second part of the post then you probably didn't read mine.

I said it was a problem because some people are portraying Hazard as a world-class, elite and complete player, and for me, if he will continue to score 10-15 goals in a season and won't carry us in the CL, well, then he will never be this kind of player. I'm not saying that what he brings to our game is questionable, I'm saying that if he wants to be the best, this is not enough. 

I'm not putting him in bad light, just pointing out the truth. You need to understand the difference, I really can't emphasize it enough. I watched Hazard play football for the last 4 years and I have never seen him been so direct as Neymar was in that game (maybe except the second half against Spurs last year when he came on with fire in his eyes). Overall, the Brazilian had a really scrubby game up until the last minutes, but who will remember that? But if Eden has a quiet game you will probably forget he is on the pitch until the final whistle, that is the difference. 

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10 minutes ago, Footballover said:

I agree with you partly but if you are referring to me with the second part of the post then you probably didn't read mine.

The first part is to you, second part is for anybody bitching about him. Didn't see necessary to make a separate post for this.

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