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3 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Dont fool yourselves folks....Trump will get his second term no matter how much we jump up and down.

Yeah that will happen but the real problem is the lack of choice. 

We really need to have like 8 different options in the elections. 

I know we have primary and what not, but at the end you only have two choices when choosing for the president, and that is what I always dislike. 

At least when we have more options there's variety to choose from. I would love it if that ever get changed. 

 

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3 hours ago, 11Drogba said:

Insecure men love politicians that talk like tough guys and blame minorities constantly and no matter how many times the politicians fail, men with weak minds and characters keep supporting.

 

Lol so true

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Am not sure Trump will get in. The real shakers and movers, media and Wall St, who choose the president (''What it's not the voters ? Bbbbbbuttt...Oh I see now''), will want a more stable ship. They've had their Reality TV billionaire buffoon, who may be just a bit too unstable to guarantee their investments, and may back a more 'moderate' puppet.

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12 hours ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Am not sure Trump will get in. The real shakers and movers, media and Wall St, who choose the president (''What it's not the voters ? Bbbbbbuttt...Oh I see now''), will want a more stable ship. They've had their Reality TV billionaire buffoon, who may be just a bit too unstable to guarantee their investments, and may back a more 'moderate' puppet.

Did you say the voters dont get to decide? If so your bang on. Its an illusion they have sold us, we dont get to decide shit. The last true US president was JFK, he didnt wanna play ball, he even promised to expose these secret societies that rule the world, they took him out for it. Watch from 9:54sec

" For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations"

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I hate thieves. I bet they do not even care about Floyds death. That was lady was so happy after she robbed the store.

Some people use the death of an innocent black man for selfish reasons.
So sad for the poor guy. At least some people that go protest against racism do it peacefully.

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13 hours ago, MoroccanBlue said:

 

 

wtf

you are posting white nationalists and/or race baiters on here now?

Ann Coulter is one of the worst baiters out there

so is Daily Caller/Daily Wire

whats next? Breitbart? Hell just show your true colours and start posting Daily Stormer and National Front articles

GTFO

this is so fucked up

fuck ALL MAGAts and racists and RW thugs and FUCK their promoters

this is not a Fux News fanclub

not a Daily Caller/Daily Wire fanclub, Tucker Carlson's shitrags

posting racists and white nationalists and their sympathisers/promoters should not be allowed here

it is fucking offensive and racist

so much of the actual violent ones in the protests are RW agents provocateur, mimicking black bloc memes

they are flooding in and doing false flag destruction and burning to try and frame the legit protestors

so fucked up to see this utter dross pushed here

GTFO

 

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white agents provocateur, both RW and so-called LW (I say so-called because of RW false flaggers mimicking the black bloc tactics. Also the anarchists as not really LW often times, they also want a war)

Officials Claim Far-Right 'Boogaloo Bois' Fanning Flames Of Chaos In Minnesota

https://crooksandliars.com/2020/05/officials-claim-far-right-boogaloo-bois

 

 

George Floyd Minneapolis protests seized by infiltrators AG says

https://www.msnbc.com/am-joy/watch/george-floyd-minneapolis-protests-seized-by-infiltrators-ag-says-84132933661

Minneapolis protests in the wake of the death of unarmed black man George Floyd after he was taken into police custody may be attracting white supremacists and other infiltrators, according to recent statements by Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz. Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison tells Joy Reid, ‘The people who would go out on the street to protest for justice for Mr. Floyd are not going to burn down the historic social justice advocacy groups for the Native American community... That's not what these kinds of folks do.’

 

 

 

Erik Prince Recruits Ex-Spies to Help Infiltrate Liberal Groups

Mr. Prince, a contractor close to the Trump administration, contacted veteran spies for operations by Project Veritas, the conservative group known for conducting stings on news organizations and other groups.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/07/us/politics/erik-prince-project-veritas.html

 

 

 

Strategic dissection of how RW extremists create chaos/confusion

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1vz7m0DrupA5AEIFBWmF4HQ43sI2okT52vftFiVtPJfA/mobilebasic

Last night, right-wing extremists escalated their campaign to create chaos in Mpls & Saint Paul. 

They used arson as a primary tactic.  It was an escalation from their work to encourage looting on Wednesday night.

They are using the widespread (and justifiable) demonstrations of grief about #GeorgeFloyd as a vehicle to advance their political objectives.

They have launched an organized effort to manipulate public perception, deconstruct public infrastructure, and create mistrust and fear.

They will likely return tonight.

What’s going on?

Certain right-wing extremists have a revolutionary orientation.  They want to advance their objectives by sparking civil conflict.  Their theory is that, if properly polarized (often by race), others will rise up to join them.  They see themselves as leading a vanguard effort.

There’s a strain of this kind of thinking that runs through touchstone reactionary documents, like The Turner Diaries, and touchstone terrorist efforts, like the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City in 1995.

The latest update is an internet-irony-infused version (of course) that identifies as the Boogaloo movement. You can read more about them here.

https://www.adl.org/blog/the-boogaloo-extremists-new-slang-term-for-a-coming-civil-war

And here:

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020/05/27/the-boogaloo-movement-is-not-what-you-think/

You can read about their work to manipulate demonstrations about #GeorgeFloyd here.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/pkyb9b/far-right-extremists-are-hoping-to-turn-the-george-floyd-protests-into-a-new-civil-war

Suffice to say, there is growing evidence that some kind of organized effort is afoot in MSP.  It appears to have at least three operational forms.

First, they blend into protests, encourage lawlessness, relocate, and repeat.  Again and again, those transgressing certain social taboos, like smashing windows, have been white men, masked and sometimes conspicuously geared up.

Remember this one from way back on Wednesday.  This guy was acting as an agent provocateur.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/minneapolis-protest-riot-umbrella-man-george-floyd-a9539741.html

It’s a tactic designed to manipulate public perception.  By encouraging lawlessness, they can shift the public narrative about the demonstration and produce polarizing (and memorable visuals) like looting.

Second, they attack public infrastructure, both physical and social.  Friday night saw the burning of a post office, a first.  Previous nights included attacks on banks, pharmacies, grocery stores, etc.  It can be easy to miss this if you just see it all as looting.

The story isn’t ‘people want stuff’.  The story is: someone is trying to deconstruct the systems that support communities in Minneapolis & Saint Paul.  

This attack on infrastructure plays out in a second way, and vividly so on Friday night.  They were using geographically widespread acts of arson to force the Minneapolis Fire Department to play Whack-A-Mole.

Friday night’s arsons, particularly those on the Northside, were taking place miles away from demonstrations on the Southside, sometimes focused on beloved institutions.

This tactic is designed to create chaos, weaken the community bonds, and discredit political leaders.

Third, there are active disinformation efforts happening online.  If you dig through your recent followers or the replies in journalist’s tweets you can pretty easily find bogus accounts.  (i.e. those with 1000s of tweets but fewer than 100 followers, accounts created in May 2020 with no personally identifiable information).

These accounts are posting polarizing content, sometimes right-leaning, sometimes left-leaning, often fear-inducing.  This tactic is designed to create mistrust and fear.

Look, this stuff is alarming.  I guess I am sounding an alarm here; but let me put this in some context.  There may not be many of these folks.  This post from late last night was a crew of just five in a car.

There are likely more than five, but they are not an insurmountable number.  Why are they not insurmountable?  

Because they only win if we overreact.  

They only win if we overreact.

They only win if we overreact.

They win by making us afraid and by getting us to do their dirty work.

There are at least five things we can do to counter the right-wing extremists who’ve been using the #GeorgeFloyd demonstrations.

1) Go talk to your neighbors today.  Build a contact list.  Offer to stay up tonight or offer to split up shifts.  You do not need to violate curfew.  Sitting on your stoop or your deck in the back will be fine.  Just prepare together to keep an eye on things tonight.

2) Get in relationship with your implicit bias.  The protestors aren’t scary or violent.  Black & brown youth aren’t the problem here.  You should keep an eye out for white dudes with backpacks.  You are preparing for the white nationalists, not the protestors.

3) Obey the curfew tonight.  If you’ve been going to the protests, take a night off.  The white nationalists are camouflaging themselves inside the protests.  They will be more exposed, more obvious, if the crowds are smaller.  The Fire Department will be more nimble if the police, national guard, and our elected officials are less strained.  Staying home tonight is a legitimate contribution to the cause.  We’re not done overhauling the MPD, but we’ve got to expose the right-wingers first.

4) Prepare to document and de-escalate.  If you go to a demonstration today, go with friends and go with a mission.  Keep your phone charged and your voice loud.  Film people who are doing sketchy stuff.  Call them out.  Add light, not heat, to the situation.  The white nationalists are mostly working at night because they don’t want to get caught.  Exposure is what scares them off.

5) Share the things you love about our city.  Share them online and with your neighbors.  Help clean up today.  Donate supplies to families who need them.  Shop at a local business.  Post all that online.  Our own fear and reactivity is our enemy.  It’s how they win.  They only win if we overreact.

We can do this.  With each other, for each other, with an abiding love for this badass city we’ve made and remade a dozen times.

[Fulham Broadway 16,386]

2 hours ago, Atomiswave said:

Did you say the voters dont get to decide? If so your bang on. Its an illusion they have sold us, we dont get to decide shit. The last true US president was JFK, he didnt wanna play ball, he even promised to expose these secret societies that rule the world, they took him out for it. Watch from 9:54sec

" For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations"

The figurehead is a distraction from the men behind the curtain. Kennedy exposed it, and paid the price....

[MoroccanBlue 5,194]

53 minutes ago, Vesper said:

wtf

you are posting white nationalists and/or race baiters on here now?

Ann Coulter is one of the worst baiters out there

so is Daily Caller/Daily Wire

whats next? Breitbart? Hell just show your true colours and start posting Daily Stormer and National Front articles

GTFO

this is so fucked up

fuck ALL MAGAts and racists and RW thugs and FUCK their promoters

this is not a Fux News fanclub

not a Daily Caller/Daily Wire fanclub, Tucker Carlson's shitrags

posting racists and white nationalists and their sympathisers/promoters should not be allowed here

it is fucking offensive and racist

so much of the actual violent ones in the protests are RW agents provocateur, mimicking black bloc memes

they are flooding in and doing false flag destruction and burning to try and frame the legit protestors

so fucked up to see this utter dross pushed here

GTFO

 

So you are denying Antifa were involved in any of this? This was all right wing? 

Please answer carefully or your agenda will forever be known. 

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4 minutes ago, Fulham Broadway said:

The figurehead is a distraction from the men behind the curtain. Kennedy exposed it, and paid the price....

I think your the first here that has recognized that, good for you man. The sooner people open their eyes the better....sadly we have become sheeps.

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8 minutes ago, 11Drogba said:

 

Trump is just Trump...just another clown puppet. The agenda comes from higher ups....hes just a puppet like those before him.