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3 hours ago, Jason said:

As much as the players are 'employees' of the clubs, it's incredibly unfair and pathetic that they get banned from playing international competitions etc for something that they were not part of in the process of forming that Super League. Why are they getting punished when the club owners were the ones that made the decision to be part of this? Club owners made the decision based on greed but the managers are the ones having to face the awkward questions in the media and the players are the ones having to face the consequences in regards to their playing career. It's a fucking joke!

If the players do not make a stand against this then i'll have no sympathy whatsoever for any of them!

Everyone is saying the power is in the hands of the owners, but it simply couldn't be further from the truth. 

On top of the massive fan power, If the likes of Messi, Ronaldo, Neymar. Mbappe, Klopp, Pep et al, took the lead and said they will have nothing to do with it, the whole thing would collapse overnight like a house of cards. 

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Fuck yeah my home town team, first live Chelsea game for me since Chelsea Spurs in 2016! 

I live in England! Everyone here supporting Olympiakos too!

There is much need. Much need indeed. Liverpool fans have to be the most annoying, entitled bunch of twats to exist. A little dose of this reality would serve them well if they weren't so delusional.

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11 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Yeah, legally speaking, how on earth can UEFA or whoever ban players from competing when they themselves haven’t actually done anything wrong? Seems like an extremely easy legal battle for the players to win.

It's wrong. Truly wrong to ban players who had no say in any of this it seems. That would be just as a disgusting move as what these greedy fat piggy owners have pulled. 

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5 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Yeah, legally speaking, how on earth can UEFA or whoever ban players from competing when they themselves haven’t actually done anything wrong? Seems like an extremely easy legal battle for the players to win.

Taking that train of thought.

How about all the other clubs suing the ass of the Super League for not allowing them to compete for the right to play in it?

Discrimination and a restraint of trade and all that.

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I'm a staunch Capitalist, but there's your decent,  very hardworking ones who create businesses, jobs and wealth and then there's your Gordon Gekko' cunts of this world. Sad to see our great game and clubs being run those sorts.

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How is any of this worth it?!  No fan who have spoken on the radio,media etc is supporting this. Maybe they didn't expect it to be so badly received but it is...

Leeds and Liverpool fans protesting.

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6 minutes ago, milka said:

 

So PSG Finally will win CL .

I think Dortmund, Porto, and RB Leipzig will be advanced to the semi finals

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1 hour ago, Pizy said:

As an American, the idea of the goddamned government enacting laws to control sports leagues is madness. 

Its a joke, politics have no business in sports and nor should it.

1 hour ago, Supermonkey said:

Part of me thinks surely the club is prepared for this shit storm. SURELY they must think they can avoid being kicked out of the domestic league and this year's CL? 

 

If they are prepared to accept shitstorm (kicked out of CL this season, severely punished by PL/kicked out of PL) just because of the dollar signs in their eyes then they are cunts

They sold out......the owners and the clubs involved will never be seen in a good light

47 minutes ago, Pizy said:

Yeah, legally speaking, how on earth can UEFA or whoever ban players from competing when they themselves haven’t actually done anything wrong? Seems like an extremely easy legal battle for the players to win.

They cant......a super lawyer said today neither PL or Uefa can win this battle in court.

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14 minutes ago, milka said:

 

So PSG Finally will win CL .

So this would make our campaign pointless.. I'd rather we weren't involved and watching this craziness from the outside 

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UEFA ain’t gonna do shit. Neither will the PL, neither will the other European leagues. They need these big clubs more than the clubs need them.

Interest and therefore viewership falls through the floor without these clubs, sponsorships dry up, TV broadcast money dries up. 
 

This is the obvious gamble and bet the Super League teams are making. There is a massive backlash initially but they all realize that they hold all the power here. 

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2 minutes ago, Pizy said:

UEFA ain’t gonna do shit. Neither will the PL, neither will the other European leagues. They need these big clubs more than the clubs need them.

Interest and therefore viewership falls through the floor without these clubs, sponsorships dry up, TV broadcast money dries up. 
 

This is the obvious gamble and bet the Super League teams are making. There is a massive backlash initially but they all realize that they hold all the power here. 

And what makes you think that the club can survive on the ESL money alone? 

They need the PL money too, otherwise, they would have already thought up of a sub for that too. Or be willing to simply breakaway. These 20 odd games or even if they increase it year long league, is not going to make a fan happy. The charm of it will wear off. 

The clubs need that money as much as PL needs them. 

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6 minutes ago, Pizy said:

UEFA ain’t gonna do shit. Neither will the PL, neither will the other European leagues. They need these big clubs more than the clubs need them.

Interest and therefore viewership falls through the floor without these clubs, sponsorships dry up, TV broadcast money dries up. 
 

This is the obvious gamble and bet the Super League teams are making. There is a massive backlash initially but they all realize that they hold all the power here. 

Totally.....in other words they are greedy cunts with no morals at all, just the rich getting richer. I m still baffled how Ars and Spurs have permanent seats, so obvious what they are doing. This aint gonna end well for everyone.

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3 minutes ago, ZAPHOD2319 said:

Was there any resistance when the Premier League was initially formed?

Dear god, PL was not formed with the objective of keeping the status quo of a few as such. It was not formed as an "exclusive for members" only club where your participation was guaranteed no matter your performance. 

It was a move solely based out of money, but still kept the ethos of competition as FAIR. Understand?

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Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp, speaking to Sky Sports: "My feelings didn't change. My opinion didn't change [from when he has criticised Super League suggestions in the past]. I heard for the first time about it yesterday. I was trying to prepare for a difficult game.

"We got some information, not a lot. Most of the things in the newspapers. It's a tough one. People are not happy with it, I can understand it. I can't say a lot more because we were not involved in the process - not the players, not me - we didn't know about it. We will have to wait how it develops

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4 minutes ago, Randomshit said:

Dear god, PL was not formed with the objective of keeping the status quo of a few as such. It was not formed as an "exclusive for members" only club where your participation was guaranteed no matter your performance. 

It was a move solely based out of money, but still kept the ethos of competition as FAIR. Understand?

I am not comparing them as the same. Just asking if there was resistance to the change.

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2 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Liverpool boss Jurgen Klopp, speaking to Sky Sports: "My feelings didn't change. My opinion didn't change [from when he has criticised Super League suggestions in the past]. I heard for the first time about it yesterday. I was trying to prepare for a difficult game.

"We got some information, not a lot. Most of the things in the newspapers. It's a tough one. People are not happy with it, I can understand it. I can't say a lot more because we were not involved in the process - not the players, not me - we didn't know about it. We will have to wait how it develops

More managers will voice their views come shortly

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