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How the fuck did carvajal make it to the end of that game? And he punched whats his face a few weeks again, the little shit. Didnt even get booking for the penalty. Again our referees show how shite they are. Juve played really well, hope they make it.

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seriously by far the real madrid fans have the worst fans. you can spot the most fakest glory hunting fans of real madrid. all over social media and twitter, once real madrid are losing or being outplayed their fans start portraying bad signs of attacking their team online.

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Vidal is an immense player. He has got everything in the bag. Pace, energy, workrate, passing, shooting, they are all there. He is truly an engine. I asked a fellow Juve fan about him and he said Vidal was great against Madrid but not even close to what he was last season. Imagine how that must have been.

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Great result for Juventus but it's another win for Italian clubs in Europe this season. They won't do any good to England's coefficient ranking.

Is it possible for England to be given only 3 champs league spots next year?

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Much has been made of Italian clubs' underachievement in Europe over the past decade. Truth be told, with the exception of Carlo Ancelotti's AC Milan, most took to the pitch with anxiety and doubt, looking to defend and pick their spots, rather than impose themselves.

It was partly a legacy of the past, when such tactics often did yield results in Europe, particularly for Italian clubs, who excelled at playing that way. But it was partly fear, that age-old malevolent calcio gene whereby if you dominate and lose you're an idiot, but if you park the bus, concede a single goal and fail to create a single chance, well, at least you kept it close.

http://www.espnfc.com/uefa-champions-league/2/blog/post/2436606/juve-win-over-real-blueprint-for-champions-league-success

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CL Semi-finalists

2006: Arsenal, Villarreal, Barcelona, Milan - 2 Spain, 1 England, 1 Italy

2007: Chelsea, Liverpool, Milan, Man Utd - 3 England, 1 Italy

2008: Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd, Barcelona - 3 England, 1 Spain

2009: Chelsea, Barcelona, Man Utd, Arsenal - 3 England, 1 Spain

2010: Bayern, Lyon, Barcelona, Inter - 1 Germany, 1 France, 1 Spain, 1 Italy

2011: Schalke, Man Utd, Real, Barcelona - 2 Spain, 1 Germany, 1 England

2012: Chelsea, Barcelona, Bayern, Real - 2 Spain, 1 England, 1 Germany

2013: Bayern, Barcelona, Real, Dortmund - 2 Spain, 2 Germany

2014: Chelsea, Atletico, Bayern, Real - 2 Spain, 1 England, 1 Germany

2015: Bayern, Barcelona, Real, Juve - 2 Spain, 1 Germany, 1 Italy

Spain - 15x (5x before 2011, 10x after - 4 different teams)

England - 13x (10x before 2011, 3x after - 4 different teams)

Germany - 8x (1x before 2011, 7x after - 3 different teams)

Italy - 4x (3x before 2011, 1x after - 3 different teams)

France - 1x (before 2011)

Quite a shift in terms of representation.

8x - Barcelona

5x - Chelsea, Real (0x pre 2011), Bayern (1x pre 2011)

4x - Man Utd (1x post 2011)

2x - Milan (0x post 2011), Arsenal (0x post 2011), Liverpool (0x post 2011)

1x - Lyon, Inter, Villarreal, Atletico, Dortmund, Juventus

Barca very dominant in both eras. Chelsea as well, with semi-final appearances in 03/04 and 04/05 to add. It's such a shame the CL was only won that one time..

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Oh well, all it would mean is one of United, City and Arsenal missing out. Juve were brilliant, hope they go on to win the whole thing.

Have to prefer Bayern to Barcelona tonight, right?

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CL Semi-finalists

2006: Arsenal, Villarreal, Barcelona, Milan - 2 Spain, 1 England, 1 Italy

2007: Chelsea, Liverpool, Milan, Man Utd - 3 England, 1 Italy

2008: Chelsea, Liverpool, Man Utd, Barcelona - 3 England, 1 Spain

2009: Chelsea, Barcelona, Man Utd, Arsenal - 3 England, 1 Spain

2010: Bayern, Lyon, Barcelona, Inter - 1 Germany, 1 France, 1 Spain, 1 Italy

2011: Schalke, Man Utd, Real, Barcelona - 2 Spain, 1 Germany, 1 England

2012: Chelsea, Barcelona, Bayern, Real - 2 Spain, 1 England, 1 Germany

2013: Bayern, Barcelona, Real, Dortmund - 2 Spain, 2 Germany

2014: Chelsea, Atletico, Bayern, Real - 2 Spain, 1 England, 1 Germany

2015: Bayern, Barcelona, Real, Juve - 2 Spain, 1 Germany, 1 Italy

Spain - 15x (5x before 2011, 10x after - 4 different teams)

England - 13x (10x before 2011, 3x after - 4 different teams)

Germany - 8x (1x before 2011, 7x after - 3 different teams)

Italy - 4x (3x before 2011, 1x after - 3 different teams)

France - 1x (before 2011)

Quite a shift in terms of representation.

8x - Barcelona

5x - Chelsea, Real (0x pre 2011), Bayern (1x pre 2011)

4x - Man Utd (1x post 2011)

2x - Milan (0x post 2011), Arsenal (0x post 2011), Liverpool (0x post 2011)

1x - Lyon, Inter, Villarreal, Atletico, Dortmund, Juventus

Barca very dominant in both eras. Chelsea as well, with semi-final appearances in 03/04 and 04/05 to add. It's such a shame the CL was won only once.

Thought I'd add 2000-2005 as well.

2000: Real, Bayern, Valencia, Barcelona - 3 Spain, 1 Germany

2001: Leeds, Valencia, Real, Bayern - 2 Spain, 1 Germany, 1 England

2002: Barcelona, Real, Man Utd, Leverkussen - 2 Spain, 1 Germany, 1 England

2003: Real, Juventus, Milan, Inter - 3 Italy, 1 Spain

2004: Chelsea, Monaco, Porto, Deportivo - 1 England, 1 Spain, 1 France, 1 Portugal

2005: Chelsea, Liverpool, Milan, PSV - 2 England, 1 Italy, 1 The Netherlands

9x - Spain (4 different teams - 24x & 6 different teams total)

5x - England (4 different teams - 18x & 5 different teams total)

4x - Italy (3 different teams - 8x & 3 different teams total)

3x - Germany (2 different teams - 11x & 4 different teams total)

1x - France (2x & 2 different teams total), Portugal, The Netherlands

4x - Real

2x - Barcelona, Bayern, Valencia, Milan, Chelsea

1x - Leeds, Man Utd, Leverkussen, Juventus, Inter, Monaco, Porto, Deportivo, Liverpool, PSV

Notice the variety in clubs.

2000-2015

10x - Barcelona

9x - Real

7x - Bayern, Chelsea

5x - Man Utd

4x - Milan

3x - Liverpool

2x - Juventus, Inter, Arsenal

1x - Monaco, Porto, Deportivo, PSV, Leverkussen, Leeds

Chelsea above Utd, that's always nice. Dominant after the rise of the club.

Barca ever present as mentioned before. Real went through a real slump in 2004-2010. Same for Bayern 2002-2010.

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Oh well, all it would mean is one of United, City and Arsenal missing out. Juve were brilliant, hope they go on to win the whole thing.

Have to prefer Bayern to Barcelona tonight, right?

Barcelona for me. Find them more enjoyable to watch.

This game is very interesting though. Both teams want the ball. Both teams usually play with a high line. But Bayern is weakened. Think Barca's pace in transition will be decisive.

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