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12. Ruben Loftus-Cheek


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£12 million for 20 year old centre back and he is not a star ?! :clown:

I don't care about Zouma like Puyol, Ramos, Varane....

I care about RLC, Ake are "at same level as Puyol, Ramos, Varane"(wtf) and care about Mourinho, not Barca, Real's manager

Some people live just in love to criticize Chelsea, but I do not ....

All great teams fichan young players for amounts between 0 and 15 million euros and only some become legends. Puyol and Ramos were signed very young for their teams and now have a similar role as John Terry in our history. Zouma will be important for us despite the fact that he was 19 years old when we signed him.

It is easy to understand ... And please: NO NEED TO TAKE EXAMPLES LITERALLY.

Zouma might be preparing now their transfer to Vittese, but no, sorry, he's with us to be important the next decade in our starting eleven. As Courtois. Young players signed to create a great team.

Sorry, but our policy with young players is working well and the time gives the reason to our managers. This fun discussion for some (some is more concerned about our failures than our successes) is close to finishing ....

1. Courtois. 2. Zouma. 3. Ruben Loftus-Cheek. 4. ...

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27 passes, 100% pass completion, 3 interceptions, 1 tackle, 1 block. Not sure what more people were expecting from a 19 year old on his début put in there to sit with Mikel.

Few people slagging him off already. Unbelievable.

And then they moan about lack of youth integration!

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I still don't believe Mou, he lies a lot. For example:

Mourinho : "David Luiz will stay at Chelsea"- Luiz is gone (thank god he went btw)

Mourinho : "Mata will stay at Chelsea"- Mata was sold aswell

After this I don't believe a word he says.

Come on Azul you know what's going on here as well as any of us. What else do we think a manager is going to say when his club is trying to maximise the transfer value of one of its players? What would shock us more, a manager telling this sort of fib, or one who was so foolish as to speak the truth in that situation?

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Come on Azul you know what's going on here as well as any of us. What else do we think a manager is going to say when his club is trying to maximise the transfer value of one of its players? What would shock us more, a manager telling this sort of fib, or one who was so foolish as to speak the truth?

I agree with you 100% but that doesn't change the fact that he can lie about this situation aswell, maybe he wants our public image on youth to become better and thats it.
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I agree with you 100% but that doesn't change the fact that he can lie about this situation aswell, maybe he wants our public image on youth to become better and thats it.

Yes, one could say that Jose might lie. I wouldn't however. For example, what Jose carelessly said about Nate Chalobah's first team chances at the end of the 2013/14 pre-season was not borne out. It could therefore be described as a lie but I don't see it that way. I felt Jose was trying to navigate the usual minefield of competing priorities and simply got his line wrong.

I watched a fair bit of Nate at Watford and was certain that he had received more praise for his efforts with them than he deserved. I also knew Jose had been at Wembley to watch Nate produce an absolute stinker for The Hornets in the play-off final. I would put it as strongly as to say I knew there was no chance of Nate making the Chelsea squad in the foreseeable future. Jose must have known this too but he clearly wanted to encourage the lad and to avoid discouraging the rest of the academy. What he did say can be seen as a lie but it can also be seen as an attempt to be minimise Nate's disappointment at being sent out on loan again.

In trying to do that Jose's comments went too far but, to be fair, he has learned from that episode and has spoken less forthrightly about academy prospects since. Yes, he's tried to encourage Nathan, Ruben and others, but none has been promised game time. I have one more point to make, and for me it's the most important one. I wonder if you agree...

I would love Chelsea to win the league, the FA Cup and The Champions' League on a regular basis. If Jose can accomplish that with a squad made up entirely of academy graduates then good, but if he does it using no academy graduates at all then what's the problem? People talk as if promoting lads from the development squads is an end in itself. It is not. The aim is to win, who plays in those wins is not of paramount importance.

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Let's see how he perform in our preseason matches. If he is playing good but in the end loaned out in deadline day, Jose has lied. But if he is under perform and not yet ready, I can't fully blamed Mourinho if he loaned him next season.

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Let's see how he perform in our preseason matches. If he is playing good but in the end loaned out in deadline day, Jose has lied. But if he is under perform and not yet ready, I can't fully blamed Mourinho if he loaned him next season.

if we wrap up the league in the next 2 games we'll probably be seeing him then.

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I know we most likely won't be fielding a heavily-weakened side against Liverpool, but I do hope we at least give one youngster a chance to start and play full game - hopefully Ruben.

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I know we most likely won't be fielding a heavily-weakened side against Liverpool, but I do hope we at least give one youngster a chance to start and play full game - hopefully Ruben.

Too risky in my opinion. Why put a youngster in a high pressure game where he can lose confidence if he plays poorly? He'll get his chance next season in the Carling Cup if we're 5 up late.

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Too risky in my opinion. Why put a youngster in a high pressure game where he can lose confidence if he plays poorly? He'll get his chance next season in the Carling Cup if we're 5 up late.

I detect sarcasm. well played.

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If he doesn't get starts this season, we can forget about him playing for chelsea. Because he is supposed to take the premier league by storm next season according to the manager. He won't be trusted to do that , if he doesn't feature heavily in these comfortable fixtures.

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If he doesn't get starts this season, we can forget about him playing for chelsea. Because he is supposed to take the premier league by storm next season according to the manager. He won't be trusted to do that , if he doesn't feature heavily in these comfortable fixtures.

I don't remember Jose saying that.

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I don't remember Jose saying that.

"I have to say in my opinion, next year, this kid will be a big surprise in the premier league"

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We have one of the best youth teams ever in the world of football. Musonda Jr, RL Cheek, Boga and Solanke deserve fair chances. We are already champion, let them start the last games and show what they can do at this level already. If they don't get decent chances now, they won't get them next season neither. Mou is great, but bringing youth players was always his biggest problem.

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"I have to say in my opinion, next year, this kid will be a big surprise in the premier league"

Yes I remember Jose saying that but it's not quite that he'll take the league by storm. Not as I read Jose's statement anyway, especially when taken in context with the comments that amounted to RLC would be a part of the squad and no promises beyond that.

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