Frank Lampard

[BlueLion. 21,491]

I don't want anyone to be 'warned', I just want people to challenge an opposing argument, rather than skip around it with insults.

My stance grew stronger on this subject, when I realised nobody has a good counter. Other than tripe about 'real' fans and being 'professional', like's he's a slave who was forced to sign for the City family and a team that doesn't exist yet.

Frank Lampard is a wolf in John Terry clothing.

Plenty of people have, such as Boshman and myself. We're awaiting your response in the City match thread.

[Term-X 7,891]

"Never thought he'd play for them"?, NYC didn't exist when he signed with the City family, he will have known!, he's not an idiot.

Nobody has likened being a professional to being a slave except you. Yeah, he didn't have to sign the contract but he did. It happens in life and football. It has happened before Lampard and will happen after Lampard. But what we have all seen from him is that he obviously loves football and will put 100% effort on the pitch everytime. That is what people mean when they call him a proffessional, he has a job and he does it. It is quite simple really.

It stopped being 'a job to do' when he became the personification of Chelsea FC and an ambassador, it's a mere job for Salomon Kalou. I'm sorry but when you gain a certain status at a club you can't treat it as 'just a job' anymore. He turned his back on his own words and contradicted himself, in regards to where he would go and what he wouldn't do.

Frank claimed to have an affintiy with the club but his actions spoke louder.

[darrus 422]

How long this kind of hatred, abuse, disappointment gonna last? Until he go back to New York? Until he retired? Until he comeback with us, which I believe he will someday? Until forever?

1. As long as people feel it. What's your problem?

2. As for me, it's not hate. Disappointment - yes, big time. And not because of this goal. But because of two things - first, going to our direct title rival after sayin he's not gonna play against us. Second, more important for me - all this "poor me" routine from yesterday that so many people are prasing him for. It was disrespectful towards us AND disrespectful towards the club he's playing for right now. All those "this club" and "I don't know what was the win for me" in the post-match interview is something I'm not ready to disregard and forget. I thought better of him as a person and as a professional. So, as for me - my own disappointment will last long. Forever? Maybe. May very well be.

He's a legend to my club, but now I'm sitting here crying and trying to hide ot from my family. And not because Lampard joined out tile rival and scored against us, but because attempting to look good in everyone's eyes and "pity me" reaction when something unpleasant happens is what I despise most in people, and after all those years I expected better from Frank.

It's my personal feelings, my personal problems, and maybe I'm alone in my sentiments - but please don't go telling me how I, or any other Chelsea fan for that matter, should feel.

And since we're on "proper fans" subject - I never was at Stamford Bridge. But I was sitting at Luzhniki stadium in 2008 watching Terry miss that penalty and singing with everyone even after everything ended, guess that counts a bit too.

[Term-X 7,891]

After this, I will always now carry with me the adage 'judge an icon when they leave the club', when the money goes.. THAT'S when you find out.

[Fernando 6,374]

To score a goal against the entity that made and call you a "Legend"... Well, that is something that Steven I-assist-against-my-team Gerrard would be proud of.

Not the first time and won't be the last such things happened.

I remember a certain Batitusta scoring against his Fiorentina....

If you now who that legend was.....

[xPetrCechx 13,546]

[iseah100 5,612]

"Never thought he'd play for them"?, NYC didn't exist when he signed with the City family, he will have known!, he's not an idiot.

It stopped being 'a job to do' when he became the personification of Chelsea FC and an ambassador, it's a mere job for Salomon Kalou. I'm sorry but when you gain a certain status at a club you can't treat it as 'just a job' anymore. He turned his back on his own words and contradicted himself, in regards to where he would go and what he wouldn't do.

Frank claimed to have an affintiy with the club but his actions spoke louder.

Frank doesn't owe the club ANYTHING. And vice versa. You don't know what he knew, so you can't say that. Frank didn't sign up to be "an ambassador" and "personification of Chelsea" he wanted trophies and to play football. He loved the fans and we loved him. Now you want to forget all of that? You have your opinion, and I'm sure there are plenty of Chelsea fans who feel the same, I'm just not one of them.

[DavidEU 2,023]

"Never thought he'd play for them"?, NYC didn't exist when he signed with the City family, he will have known!, he's not an idiot.

It stopped being 'a job to do' when he became the personification of Chelsea FC and an ambassador, it's a mere job for Salomon Kalou. I'm sorry but when you gain a certain status at a club you can't treat it as 'just a job' anymore. He turned his back on his own words and contradicted himself, in regards to where he would go and what he wouldn't do.

Frank claimed to have an affintiy with the club but his actions spoke louder.

How did he turn his back on the club? Reports about a month ago say he wasn't even offered a contract by Chelsea. He choose the best option to prolong his career (MLS), which presented the chance of six more months in England, the league hes always played in and, most importantly in the country where his children live. You really begrudge him for that?

Remember Chelsea did a lot for Frank, but Frank did a HELL of a lot for Chelsea too.

Besides, we'll walk the league come May if we get behind the boys.

[iseah100 5,612]

"But he doesn't have an affinity with the club. He doesn't love Chelsea. Those tears are fake."

[BlueLion. 21,491]

"Never thought he'd play for them"?, NYC didn't exist when he signed with the City family, he will have known!, he's not an idiot.

It stopped being 'a job to do' when he became the personification of Chelsea FC and an ambassador, it's a mere job for Salomon Kalou. I'm sorry but when you gain a certain status at a club you can't treat it as 'just a job' anymore. He turned his back on his own words and contradicted himself, in regards to where he would go and what he wouldn't do.

Frank claimed to have an affintiy with the club but his actions spoke louder.

Not quite as loud as this though:

He barely even acknowledged the City fans. He refers to them as "the club" or "City", not as "we" or "us".

[Term-X 7,891]

His legacy.. his status.. is bigger than the board, the 'suits' come and go.. it doesn't matter what are 'curent' setup did or didn't offer him, Chelsea is bigger than that, it's a concept!

Frank didn't sign up to be "an ambassador" and "personification of Chelsea" he wanted trophies and to play football.

He did actually, in promotional and marketing material, alongside JT. Commercialism aside, he always spoke and alluded to having an affinity with the club.

[The Chels 2,502]

Jamie Redknapp, who knows a lot more about him than the rest of us, said Lampard would have been very happy to score against us. And personally I don't think he was as upset as he made out - nothing a look at his bank account wouldn't fix anyway.

[Spike 12,049]

His legacy.. his status.. is bigger than the board, the 'suits' come and go.. it doesn't matter what are 'curent' setup did or didn't offer him, Chelsea is bigger than that, it's a concept!

He did actually, in promotional and marketing material, alongside JT. Commercialism aside, he always spoke and alluded to having an affinity with the club.

Kalou was used in promotional and marketing material also. The same Kalou that you used in one of your earlier arguments.

[Term-X 7,891]

Kalou was used in promotional and marketing material also. The same Kalou that you used in one of your earlier arguments.

You don't understand what I'm referring to, in the media, in Chelsea corporate activities he was heralded in a certain special way.

[Term-X 7,891]

Jamie Redknapp, who knows a lot more about Lampard than the rest of us, said Lampard would have been happy to score against us. And personally I don't think he was as upset as he made out - nothing a look at his bank account wouldn't fix anyway.

The cold reality is that (most!) preppy private school types have a certain mentality drilled into them at an early age. I'm sure he had a good joke with the Bleakley about the whole affair last night and spent that arab money..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2764985/Dressed-impress-Christine-Bleakley-Frank-Lampard-don-Sunday-best-date-night.html

^ Pictures from after the game, all smiles.

[Milan 17,835]

Not quite as loud as this though:

He barely even acknowledged the City fans. He refers to them as "the club" or "City", not as "we" or "us".

His exact quote -

‘City deserved a draw, when they went down to 10 men they pushed on.’ Definitely not one of them.

[The Mak 4,459]

Here we go again, the very, very few calling Frank 'Judas' and the likes are now absolutely everyone who isn't backing Lampard 110%.

Some of you seriously need to get out more and grow up. Its football guys. Just football.

Dont you have anything in your lives to worry about more than Frank Lampard? Christ.

I usually like the majority of your posts man, but Christ if this isn't a good advertisement for the forum; a mod complaining about it's football fan members airing their opinions on a football forum about Lampard...in the Lampard thread no less, the cheek! Christ is right.

Oh and as a side note to my previous post:

Its no surprise to see the difference in reception he got from the fans at the game compared to the guys on here, who (lets be honest) barely go to any. I'm so fucking glad its them supporting the boys week in, week out and not some of you lot.

Oh, how very TOPTB of you...

Jesus fucking Christ, abandon thread. Abandon forum. Abandon all logic. Because no one is allowed to be disappointed in a legend's actions without being insinuated as a Judas themselves.

[iseah100 5,612]

His legacy.. his status.. is bigger than the board, the 'suits' come and go.. it doesn't matter what are 'curent' setup did or didn't offer him, Chelsea is bigger than that, it's a concept!

He did actually, in promotional and marketing material, alongside JT. Commercialism aside, he always spoke and alluded to having an affinity with the club.

So do players.

You don't understand what I'm referring to, in the media, in Chelsea corporate activities he was heralded in a certain special way.

You don't KNOW any of this, this your crazy theories and speculation.

The cold reality is that (most!) preppy private school types have a certain mentality drilled into them at an early age. I'm sure he had a good joke with the Bleakley about the whole affair last night and spent that arab money..

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2764985/Dressed-impress-Christine-Bleakley-Frank-Lampard-don-Sunday-best-date-night.html

^ Pictures from after the game, all smiles.

Is he supposed to alienate himself from everyone and everything?