Jason 42,339 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Mana said: The first one, come on. That shot was straight to the goalkeeper. I expect most keepers to save that. However, I'll give you the second one. Think Courtois would have saved Kolarov's goal had the shot not taken a slight deflection off Christensen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 4,498 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Jason said: Think Courtois would have saved Kolarov's goal had the shot not taken a slight deflection off Christensen. If it didn't get a deflection, and that still went in - it would be more of a blunder. It's just a real shame he didn't save our skins. If he saved that, and we gone on to win 2-1, Courtois would have gotten huge praise from me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason 42,339 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Mana said: If it didn't get a deflection, and that still went in - it would be more of a blunder. It's just a real shame he didn't save our skins. If he saved that, and we gone on to win 2-1, Courtois would have gotten huge praise from me. Fine margins...more flabbergasted by how poor Azpi's defending was for that goal TBH. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 4,498 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 7 minutes ago, Jason said: Fine margins...more flabbergasted by how poor Azpi's defending was for that goal TBH. Azpi was absolutely poor, I'm not denying that. You can criticise Azpi's performance last night and I'm not going to stop you. But Courtois is supposed to be the last man of our defense. It's not like Courtois had NO chance to save it. If his positioning was inch perfect, or was thinking sharp he would have saved that from going in. Courtois is capable of saving that goal. That's why I'm disappointed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
King11Didier 916 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Yeah, being a goalkeeper is always such an ungrateful job... Tibo is probably the least guy to be blamed about our lost yesterday. There was almost nothing he could've done better with such a bad defending from the players in front of him. You also seem to forget his good save against Radja before Roma's 1st goal, where Alonso was 3 minutes away from the situation and let a lot of free space for the opposition, something that happened a lot of times. The only thing I don't like in Tibo is that he is never sure about coming out and taking high balls, eventhough he is almost always the tallest guy in the box, it's like his weakness. But apart from that, he is a really solid GK and I'm thankfull we have him. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mathewe 56 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 4 hours ago, King11Didier said: Yeah, being a goalkeeper is always such an ungrateful job... Tibo is probably the least guy to be blamed about our lost yesterday. There was almost nothing he could've done better with such a bad defending from the players in front of him. You also seem to forget his good save against Radja before Roma's 1st goal, where Alonso was 3 minutes away from the situation and let a lot of free space for the opposition, something that happened a lot of times. The only thing I don't like in Tibo is that he is never sure about coming out and taking high balls, eventhough he is almost always the tallest guy in the box, it's like his weakness. But apart from that, he is a really solid GK and I'm thankfull we have him. He also made a vital save with his foot from a Kolarov cross from the byline that was heading straight to Dzeko for a tap in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo 20,224 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Da fuq have i just read? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LAM09 5,752 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Surprised this thread is the most lively one after yesterday. Might have been slightly at fault for Dzeko's first alongside Christensen, but he kept it at only three. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 4,498 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Bumping this up again because surprise surprise...Courtois has made a blunder for the third goal! (Yes the defence Alonso, Luiz, Rudiger etc. was super shite, you don't need to pinpoint it to me here) I wasn't kidding when I said back in the Everton Carbabo Cup game, that Willy has made more crucial saves than Courtois all season. Give Willy a chance this Sunday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amblève. 4,995 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yeah, that third goal was pathetic. It's also getting clearer and clearer that other GKs have surpassed Courtois at this point. You can count the games Courtois single-handedly won us in the past 3 years on one hand; that's just not good enough for a someone who's supposed to be top-3 in his position. You can blame our defense as long as you want but like strikers, sometimes you just need your GK to win a game on his own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Special Juan 25,997 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Nobody will change an opinion I have had for about 3 seasons on this guy....He really isn't as good as people say he is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BlueLyon 9,359 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I think he is good GK, however he should organise his defence better. But long shot goals are getting ridiculous. Opponents are popping euro goals on regular basis, Tibo should save more of those shots... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leif 6,006 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 It shouldn't be ignored that he was an absolutely superior player for Atletico. Maybe one or 2 performances for us have been 'woah', but every single game for Atletico was a woah for him. We know his heart isn't here, and mine wouldn't be either if i'd helped an underdog become a top dog in a country with a far superior lifestyle. The only advantage we offer him is more money, and the amount we offer vs. Atletico's makes - zero - difference to a person's quality of life & happiness. So, actually contradicting that; we offer nothing that Atletico don't, really. They actually offer more in terms of charm on the pitch and lifestyle off of it. I was really itching to sell him for 50-80m after his Atletico stint; we could've signed anyone with that money at that time. Even with fees going crazy now, I can't see that window for a mega fee being open again. Partly too because every club with cash has already been identifying their own long term keeper. I really dislike having players here who'd rather be elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tomo 20,224 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 17 hours ago, Mana said: Bumping this up again because surprise surprise...Courtois has made a blunder for the third goal! (Yes the defence Alonso, Luiz, Rudiger etc. was super shite, you don't need to pinpoint it to me here) I wasn't kidding when I said back in the Everton Carbabo Cup game, that Willy has made more crucial saves than Courtois all season. Give Willy a chance this Sunday. He should have done a lot better for the third goal but from what i saw (had to watch the highlights as i had a commitment that stopped me watching live) he again prevented the score being even worse. Courtois doesn't make the type of saves Caballero did vs Everton mainly because he doesn't have too, his positioning is so good he makes even borderline impossible saves look easier than they are. If he leaves, we will quickly realise just how good we had it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mana 4,498 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, Tomo said: He should have done a lot better for the third goal but from what i saw (had to watch the highlights as i had a commitment that stopped me watching live) he again prevented the score being even worse. Courtois doesn't make the type of saves Caballero did vs Everton mainly because he doesn't have too, his positioning is so good he makes even borderline impossible saves look easier than they are. If he leaves, we will quickly realise just how good we had it. I certainly didn't miss Courtois in the Everton midweek game... As I said, we should give Willy a chance against United. Let's see if we miss Courtois. Because he has been subpar. It's true that Roma could have scored 6-7 blahblah, but to me personally? I don't give a monkeys if we lost 3-0 or 7-0 that night. To me it's all the same. He leaked in too many goals for a supposed "world-class" goalkeeper we have. I'm not defending the horrid back 4 yesterday, because they have disgusting rubbish, but except for the first freak goal, it's not like Courtois had no chance to stop those from coming in. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 1,492 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I'll say it again. One of the best keepers in the world. When he does see, you'll realise. His positioning is top notch. People getting overwhelmed by diving saves because the keepers are smaller or out of position unlike Courtois. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LAM09 5,752 Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 I'll say it again. One of the best keepers in the world. When he does see, you'll realise. His positioning is top notch. People getting overwhelmed by diving saves because the keepers are smaller or out of position unlike Courtois. One of the best shot stoppers for sure. However, his distribution is almost nonexistent Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Thor 1,492 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 On 02/11/2017 at 11:03 AM, LAM09 said: One of the best shot stoppers for sure. However, his distribution is almost nonexistent Agree. I personally don't think ball distribution is as important as some people make it out to be. But we all have differing opinions. He is a great presence in the box, and he is a great shot stopper. Enough for me, since he is one of, if not the best at both of those things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LAM09 5,752 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Agree. I personally don't think ball distribution is as important as some people make it out to be. But we all have differing opinions. He is a great presence in the box, and he is a great shot stopper. Enough for me, since he is one of, if not the best at both of those things. I'm of the train of thought that it's secondary to stopping the ball going into the net. He's just being scrutinised this season with the emphasis on playing more from the back this season, due to the lack of a target man for the first time in a while. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Amblève. 4,995 Posted November 5, 2017 Share Posted November 5, 2017 Fucking finally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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