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  1. If this is at all still true and we land him - I give up trying to figure out the formation Conte plans on using. 

    I don't rate Azpili as a wingback. He's so, so much more effective as a right side CB. But Van Dijk with Luiz and even Cahill next to him makes a formidable tandem. 

    It's certainly a good problem to have so much depth in defense and is laying the groundwork for the future. I still believe Zouma will have a place next year too. 

    £50m is a good price all things considered.

  2. 29 minutes ago, It's too big said:

    Young players with huge potential like Musonda, need to be around other top class players imo. I think loaning them out to mid/low table sides in other leagues is a recipe for disaster. I don't know of any young player of 18/19/20 who played for a poor side and developed into a world class player at that club. Even Messi would struggle on loan to a poor side who can't take advantage of a player like Messi's ability. 

    Players need to play. You need to see them and have enough tape on them to determine if they're worth further investment or time developing. You can only learn so much from having them in practice or playing sparsely during a season.

    Look at Aké. He played, was recalled, and then sold for £20m where he's going to start and be a critical piece for Howe and Bournemouth this year. That doesn't mean he's good enough to start for a club in Europe battling on four fronts, but he went out, did the work and is now set to heavily contribute. 

    That's really all you can ask for from a young player. We just have to hope one of them develops into a player at the caliber required at this level.

    We deemed Ake and Chalobah not good enough. 

    RLC and Zouma are on big top flight loans and will be revisited next year.

    Musonda, Baker and Christensen are now up and we get to see if or how they're going to be used and tested. 

    I think this is the right way to go about this process. You just have to get lucky with talent which is something everyone in the country is struggling with. This is not solely a Chelsea Football Club dilemma.

  3. One games worth of highlights does not make a player. That's completely moronic logic. To then use that as a metric while shitting on Willian...I can't even.

    He's talented and it's nice that he's seemingly sticking around this year. But let's keep expectations in check. He's very, very raw and returned last December for more than just not clicking with managerial changes. 

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  4. 5 minutes ago, Polo7 said:

    We are only missing Hazard, Pedro and Bakayoko. No cover for wing backs or CM. This is a big big issue.

    Yes, only.

    Midfield is a concern but I think someone will come in. I'm not worried there. More than a month remaining to remedy this, and with the prices in the current market for wealthy clubs, negotiations are more complicated. 

    We'll see if anything happens with Sanches. 

    Personally, Inter are signing Vecino from Fiorentina mext week and that may put Kondogbia well behind their starting eleven. We could do much, much worse than signing another young French midfielder. I think he needs to get out of Italy.

    Wingback depth exist, it's just inexperienced players unfortunately. Again, we'll see what happens before September. 

  5. Being a squad player on a title winning side competing in four competitions is better than playing for Roma where the best you can finish is 2nd behind Juve.

    Realistically, Roma are behind Napoli, Milan and maybe even Inter after this summer. They'll struggle dealing with the CL again too. 

    Last year our entire defensive had years worth of experience in the Premier League. Every single player.

    Rudgier is still young and is obviously a player for the future. This first season in a new league and country is a learning and adjusting phase more than anything. There's nothing wrong with working him in slowly. 

  6. What? There are players out injured. He has pieces to work with, they're just not currently available. 

    Why are so many people so quick to leap to the absolute worst case regarding the squad?

    And mentioning Poch and Spurs as leading by some example? Again, what?

    Spurs have one trophy in the last sixteen seasons under Levy's ownership. Is that considered a success because they don't spend money? 


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  7. Fair criticism for both players. However, those shortcomings clearly overshadow their positives. You could make the same claims for Kyle Walker on the right - who I don't rate at all. 

    Wingback is a difficult position to nail down with specifics because it's such a wide ranging role switching from defender to attacker. Max effort at both ends is the least you can ask for, but a lot depends on your supporting teammates. Fabregas definitely leaves a lot more work for everyone defending wide which we saw in all three of these games on tour. 

    One thing I'm confident of is that Chamberlain doesn't solve anything anywhere within the first team. He would be an addition, but that's about it. Another option off the bench that could hopefully figure something out and take that next step if he were be purchased.

  8. There is a clear overreaction online on the state of the wingbacks. It's become something people have attached themselves to and are now just running with.

    Moses and Alonso are capable of playing at a higher level than what we've seen in these three games, but I don't think Moses was nearly as poor as people are making out. Alonso looks like he's simply lacking match fitness. I'm really not stressed at all about either player at either position. 

    We'll see how their minutes are handled for the early cup games; how some of the fringe youth may be integrated; or if someone(s) are added before the 1st.

    I would be much more concerned with the lack of depth in the middle.

    This Fabregas situation in a mid two is disastrous. He doesn't have the legs or skill set to occupy the space required to make it click. If he plays he needs to stay put in the middle of the park and just kick balls forward. Restrict his running if at all possible. He doesn't play for me without two players behind him. Absolutely nothing more than a substitute for games were we're not dominating possession. 

    Also a bit puzzled at the lack of time given to Baker and Christensen during this tour. Not sure what to make of that. Need to see more of each of them. Likely cup players at this point.

    The good over these three games (beside no major injuries) has been Batshuayi looking hungry and the surprising depth with wide youth players that as of now are sticking around. We'll see if that lasts over the next month.

  9. Rudgier is not starting. At least not anytime soon. 

    Fabregas is not starting, period, because that makes no sense for the formation that has been a proven winner and has been deployed for the first two games thus far.

    Personally think Hazard is wasted when not played wide or in a front three to overlap a striker.

    People need to stop trying to get creative and realize we've replaced three players this summer and each of their positions will remain the same. 

    Costa ▶️ Morata

    Matic ▶️ Bakayoko

    Terry ▶️ Rudgier


    Zouma ▶️ Christensen



  10. 2 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

    Well Nasri never moved to a direct rival...he just chose money (just like Adebayor, Hleb, Song, Cesc).

    As for Van Persie, he wasn't a bright talent, he was a often-injured 30 year old looking to win a title. 

    I'd be shocked if Arsenal let the Ox move to Chelsea...as our last major transfer with them was 11 years ago!



    RVP wasn't talented? He's one of Arsenal's all time top goalscorers. He was excellent. 

    And Cech didn't transfer across town eleven years ago.

  11. 3 hours ago, Chelsea4 said:

    Actually he is,he can deal under pressure,he is composed and offers a lot in both defense and attack.

    You're talking straight nonsense. 

    He's 19 years old for Christ sake and none of his tape at Bayern reflects anything close to the player you're describing. His good will from Euros is long gone now.

    Have you perhaps confused him with Luka Modric? Because the Renato Sanches you're describing only exists in your videogames. 

  12. 1 hour ago, Tautvix said:

    Some very reliable sources here these days.

    Yes. How do you place someone on your ignore list? I've asked the admin staff via pm but received no response.

  13. He would certainly have a better opportunity of picking up meaningful minutes here than he would this season at Bayern. 

    Kante and Bakayoko are obviously the two first choice midfielders, but we don't know exactly how well they'll play together or if Bakayoko is going to struggle with fitness. Sanches, more so than Fabregas or Baker, fits the mold a bit better as a like for like replacement. 

    I'm not entirely on board with a loan, however, a lot can change over a season. It's possible he could arrive for a year and then tell Bayern he's not interested in returning to Munich. 

  14. - Good pace and balance. 

    - Clearly not intimidated by defenders and willing to go at them when on the ball.

    - Would have liked to have seen him put this foot through a ball and attempted at least one shot. Seems a bit timid in that regard in these first two games. He'll need to be able to be depended on if put into a position to finish.

    - Needs to add more urgency when not on the ball, particularly when in a position to apply pressure defensively. Use that pace.

    - I would handcuff him to Willian during training and tell him to do what he does, but do it better. 🙃

  15. 2 hours ago, mccg said:

    Yeah a 3 year loan deal was a awesome deal lol

    Umm, yes...?

    Three year loan where they were forced to outright purchase him if they won Serie A which they did. 

    Again, the club recouped their investment and have moved on. What's the issue?

  16. 2 hours ago, mccg said:

    Obvious you don't ,if you looked at the players in/out finances at Cfc the last few seasons . The point of the post was to highlight how much in the red M.City are in two consecutive seasons in this aspect in which this is the basic foundation of FFP , and i highlighted  basic for obvious reasons!

    Who cares though? 

    Specifically, who cares about how much another club spends? Why concern yourself with how they conduct business? 

    There are a dozen other ways to balance the books besides player sales. 

    So again, who gives a shit?

  17. 3 hours ago, RoyalBlues said:

    Strange thing is that no media think it is a sign we will get a new LB by sending Kenedy home. Usually their creative imagination works fast, but not this time.

    Perhaps because they also realize he's not a defender. He's a forward wide player and nothing more. 

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  18. 6 minutes ago, King11Didier said:

    Tolliso looks more than impressive, would have been the piece in mid that Chelsea really needs. 


    He's a good player but not what we needed. Bakayoko is exactly what was required for the formation that we play. 

  19. 28 minutes ago, mccg said:

    No i meant the stupido loan deal they screwed us with(think we got 17mill off them ) So lets hope if they want Matic we get Sandro for peanuts

    How exactly did they screw Chelsea on that deal? It seemed very fair at the time and got a player that never settled in England off the books. His initial fee has essentially been completely recouped and he's now Juve's problem as it seem they're now trying to offload him.

  20. Honestly pleased that more people can see how limited Fabregas is in this formation. And this is the formation - make no mistake about that. Kante and Bakayoko in front of Azpili, Luiz and Cahill and we're much more formidable. Or at the very least more organized and not giving away so much space which had led to their goals and opportunities. 

    It also can't be stressed enough the difference having Boga out there is instead of Hazard. 

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