closed Valencia 2-2 Chelsea

[Jase 43,479]

4 minutes ago, Hutcho said:

Yeah I know. That's what I said...

Pretend I said nothing.  

[Atomiswave 6,072]

1 minute ago, Johnnyeye said:

victory today would have been so sweet, sigh, but still in our hands thats what matters most.

Would have been a big fuck you to UEFA.

I really hope Frank will speak up about it or I promise we will get rekt later on and thats a guarantee. Pool will go through today, city and spurs did it yesterday cuz all their Groups were much less harder than ours. They dont like Eng teams doing too well for more than a season.

[Tomo 21,681]

16 minutes ago, Jason said:

Problem is we just don't control games enough, even with Jorginho and Kovacic in midfield. I know we're more exciting under Lampard but a bit Sarriball or even Mourinhoball would be nice in games like this. Mourinho was by no means wrong at all with what he said about us in big games. 

Wait, you think Valencia are a big game but not Ajax? 

[1905didierblue 748]

Can't be "happy" with the result or the performance. It was a poor performance given how many chances we gave away. Given how good the partnership of jorginho and kovacic was and also how solid it was before the international break, it surprisng to see that a mid 3 of kante-jorginhk-kova is getting sliced open so easily despite Kante playing wonderfully and kova performing brilliantly. I feel tactically the players need to be tweaked. 

Zouma needs a good CB partner. Andreas was poor. Missing simple headers. Not covering for zouma (the maxi Gomez chance). Simple goal kicks were becoming excellent chances which is unacceptable.

Kepa was dog shit. And that is despite the penalty save. He could and should have stopped both goals. Just so hopelessly poor from him. His distribution, his passes, nothing is good at the moment.

Michy is so poor. Just not good enough. We still have our fates in our own hands, a win against lille and we qualify. Leta hope we can do that. 

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Just now, Tomo said:

Wait, you think Valencia are a big game but not Ajax? 

Think I said facing Ajax was a big GAME but it wasn't against a big TEAM. 

It's just you and I have different definition for those two.

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[Ryan Fong 2,776]

 

Thank fuck! If he joins the long term injury list and we can’t sign or loan any half decent strikers in Jan we’re in serious trouble.

[Vybz Kartel 1,613]

13 minutes ago, Jason said:

 

I aint Tammy's biggest fan but fuck Michy.

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12 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Would have been a big fuck you to UEFA.

I really hope Frank will speak up about it or I promise we will get rekt later on and thats a guarantee. Pool will go through today, city and spurs did it yesterday cuz all their Groups were much less harder than ours. They dont like Eng teams doing too well for more than a season.

i agree with you on the awful and corrupt officiating we've been subject to and to see teams like Pool, Valencia, Barca, Madrid, etc getting away with murder is a disgrace of epic proportions, there is only so much we can do when we face corrupt organizations like FA, UEFA and FIFA. Cheers mate

[OneMoSalah 8,614]

Got to be honest, not a good result. Infact both results against Valencia and the 4-4 draw with Ajax are not good enough in my eyes.

Despite this team being "young" or "not the finished article", these are games where we should have played better in defensive and offensive side of the games. Conte or Sarri would probably of got cruicified for not beating Valencia in 2 attempts and defending in the way we drew with Ajax, thats the harsh truth.

Luckily for Frank, hes still learning and doesnt have the luxury of the transfer window but we need to be blunt as well and acknowledge these results arent good.

Round of 16 if we get through will be incredibly difficult, especially if we continue defensively in this manner against a much better team than Ajax, Lille or Valencia. Harsh reality but true. Good attacking football is all well and good but good teams are solid and hard to beat. At the moment, in Europe, we arent unfortunately.

[Laylabelle 9,296]

The thing with the 4-4 draw as well was as good as it was it was against 9 men. Had that not happened we'd probably lost. Just all happened at the right time 

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4 minutes ago, Johnnyeye said:

i agree with you on the awful and corrupt officiating we've been subject to and to see teams like Pool, Valencia, Barca, Madrid, etc getting away with murder is a disgrace of epic proportions, there is only so much we can do when we face corrupt organizations like FA, UEFA and FIFA. Cheers mate

Preach my Brother

[Vesper 27,310]

19 minutes ago, Jason said:

Think I said facing Ajax was a big GAME but it wasn't against a big TEAM. 

It's just you and I have different definition for those two.

Ajax were a big team but they lost 2 superstars

they so so miss de Jong especially

thank fuck he didnt go to the bindippers or Shitty or Manure

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4 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Got to be honest, not a good result. Infact both results against Valencia and the 4-4 draw with Ajax are not good enough in my eyes.

Despite this team being "young" or "not the finished article", these are games where we should have played better in defensive and offensive side of the games. Conte or Sarri would probably of got cruicified for not beating Valencia in 2 attempts and defending in the way we drew with Ajax, thats the harsh truth.

Luckily for Frank, hes still learning and doesnt have the luxury of the transfer window but we need to be blunt as well and acknowledge these results arent good.

Round of 16 if we get through will be incredibly difficult, especially if we continue defensively in this manner against a much better team than Ajax, Lille or Valencia. Harsh reality but true. Good attacking football is all well and good but good teams are solid and hard to beat. At the moment, in Europe, we arent unfortunately.

we SOOOOOOOO need a healthy Rudiger back and running the defence 

[Jase 43,479]

2 minutes ago, OneMoSalah said:

Got to be honest, not a good result. Infact both results against Valencia and the 4-4 draw with Ajax are not good enough in my eyes.

Despite this team being "young" or "not the finished article", these are games where we should have played better in defensive and offensive side of the games. Conte or Sarri would probably of got cruicified for not beating Valencia in 2 attempts and defending in the way we drew with Ajax, thats the harsh truth.

Luckily for Frank, hes still learning and doesnt have the luxury of the transfer window but we need to be blunt as well and acknowledge these results arent good.

Round of 16 if we get through will be incredibly difficult, especially if we continue defensively in this manner against a much better team than Ajax, Lille or Valencia. Harsh reality but true. Good attacking football is all well and good but good teams are solid and hard to beat. At the moment, in Europe, we arent unfortunately.

People talk too much about us being a young team, TBH. Yes, we have a number of young players this season, more than any other time but there are still loads of experienced players in the squad. Obviously, I don't expect the team to be winning every game but we should be doing better than having basketball games like the ones against Ajax and Valencia. We've done well generally in the PL but in the Europe, that's becoming a bit of an issue if the last 2 games are anything to go by. 

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3 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Ajax were a big team but they lost 2 superstars

they so so miss de Jong especially

thank fuck he didnt go to the bindippers or Shitty or Manure

But you won't put Ajax in the same bracket as Man City, Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern now, would you? 

[LAM09 6,547]

But you won't put Ajax in the same bracket as Man City, Liverpool, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern now, would you? 

Mr "Big game" would [emoji6]