closed Chelsea 0-0 Southampton

[Yeboii 1,844]

1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

From not wanting a striker to now saying he needs more up front, and he wasn't talking about effort by the way.

And his comments on Pulisic tell me exactly what I have thought for years, this club buy who they think is right and not what the manager thinks.

The question is rather, what if Sarri would have given a "negative opinion" instead of a positive one when the club asked him. If they would have bought him even if Sarri had a negative opinion of him then that would be troubling for the manager, club and the player.

I think Sarri likes Pulisic. He has potential to be exactly what we need in this team, at least right now.

[manpe 10,855]

8 hours ago, cosmicway said:

And if the opponent is as poor as Southampton was, then in 90 minutes one or two sort of chances will come up anyway.

Southampton weren't poor, come on, they were resilient and worked hard in defence. They never looked like switching off apart from the Morata disallowed goal. It was the type of performance from them that if it was us playing Barcelona in CL and we needed at least a draw, the manager would be branded a genius like Mourinho always was for performances and results like that. They forced us to play poorly as they seemed to know very well how to neutralise our threats, it wasn't only because we were bad, it was also because they were good.

[cosmicway 1,252]

15 minutes ago, manpe said:

Southampton weren't poor, come on, they were resilient and worked hard in defence. They never looked like switching off apart from the Morata disallowed goal. It was the type of performance from them that if it was us playing Barcelona in CL and we needed at least a draw, the manager would be branded a genius like Mourinho always was for performances and results like that. They forced us to play poorly as they seemed to know very well how to neutralise our threats, it wasn't only because we were bad, it was also because they were good.

Good in parking their bus.
Okidoki.
Maybe PAOK also, had they not been left with ten men ...

[Unionjack 7,531]

2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

From not wanting a striker to now saying he needs more up front, and he wasn't talking about effort by the way.

And his comments on Pulisic tell me exactly what I have thought for years, this club buy who they think is right and not what the manager thinks.

100% agree. Specially with him saying he didn't lnow anything about us buying Pulisic.. That is scary. I thought one of the reasons we took Magic Box on was for him to be that buffer between Sarri and the board.

I know we all keep harping on about it but it just helps prove how much we need a DOF.!

[Special Juan 27,101]

3 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

100% agree. Specially with him saying he didn't lnow anything about us buying Pulisic.. That is scary. I thought one of the reasons we took Magic Box on was for him to be that buffer between Sarri and the board.

I know we all keep harping on about it but it just helps prove how much we need a DOF.!

This is were the derision comes from, the no in between of the manager, no middle ground or no correct identification.

Sarri says "I like him" the board says "No, we don't, we need him".....BOOOMMMMMMM negative words start in press conferences and it's rinse and repeat again.

[Special Juan 27,101]

What the fuck do this lot do in training about the quality of delivery from corners?

Absolute shite again last night. Willian floating it in, and Hazard with the one step run up. No conviction in getting the ball whipped in at pace to be attacked. Should be told to watch video of Ward-Prowse and how to deliver a ball.

[Unionjack 7,531]

1 minute ago, Special Juan said:

This is were the derision comes from, the no in between of the manager, no middle ground or no correct identification.

Sarri says "I like him" the board says "No, we don't, we need him".....BOOOMMMMMMM negative words start in press conferences and it's rinse and repeat again.

You would expect that a club would be run like any company/office.

You have regular meetings where you all sit down and give each other your needs. What the team needs in what positions. What they dont need etc.

You would expect the heads of departments to all be there. Scouts etc and all go thru what they need to put across.

Then they go away to think about it and then the main peeps get together to say what they have decided.

But as we dont have that central DOF who hopefully has good football knowledge and been in the job at a high level so has important contacts at various clubs, then it causes us a fuck off big problem to begin with.

I dont doubt that Granny is a good number cruncher with balls bigger than many men but she knows less about football than me.

 

[manpe 10,855]

39 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Good in parking their bus.
Okidoki.
Maybe PAOK also, had they not been left with ten men ...

We, as Chelsea fans, are really in no position to ridicule or criticize others for employing a tactic that we ourselves introduced and employed to great success (and unsuccess). It is only the first season in which we are trying to break out from this mould.

[Blue Armour 4,164]

10 hours ago, manpe said:

We, as Chelsea fans, are really in no position to ridicule or criticize others for employing a tactic that we ourselves introduced and employed to great success (and unsuccess). It is only the first season in which we are trying to break out from this mould.

Yeah can hardly blame Southampton for yesterday's result.

Maybe the jackass referee, but not much else.

[cosmicway 1,252]

17 hours ago, manpe said:

We, as Chelsea fans, are really in no position to ridicule or criticize others for employing a tactic that we ourselves introduced and employed to great success (and unsuccess). It is only the first season in which we are trying to break out from this mould.

Incidentally we never played that way !
Only against Atletico in the semi of 2014 in Madrid.
Against Barca, the 2-2, we were down to 10 men after Terry was sent off.
I do not criticize, but that does n't make Soton a team worth talking about. Look at their table position.

 

[manpe 10,855]

3 hours ago, cosmicway said:

Incidentally we never played that way !
Only against Atletico in the semi of 2014 in Madrid.
Against Barca, the 2-2, we were down to 10 men after Terry was sent off.
I do not criticize, but that does n't make Soton a team worth talking about. Look at their table position.

 

You say we never played that way, then proceed to bring two examples.  You are either confused or haven't seen us play enough these past 15 years. We have parked the bus MUCH more than only those two times, heck the saying "park the bus" was coined after us.  For example just look at last season against City, it was much much worse than what Soton was doing. You are making it sound like they played only defence and nothing else, I however remember quite a few instances being nervous when they got too close to our box and goal, I actually thought we would bottle the draw. So I really don't understand what you're talking about, I guess our subjective views and opinions are just very different.

[cosmicway 1,252]

22 minutes ago, manpe said:

You say we never played that way, then proceed to bring two examples.  You are either confused or haven't seen us play enough these past 15 years. We have parked the bus MUCH more than only those two times, heck the saying "park the bus" was coined after us.  For example just look at last season against City, it was much much worse than what Soton was doing. You are making it sound like they played only defence and nothing else, I however remember quite a few instances being nervous when they got too close to our box and goal, I actually thought we would bottle the draw. So I really don't understand what you're talking about, I guess our subjective views and opinions are just very different.

Against City last season was two tearful affairs.
Against City couple of seasons ago we won 1-0 at the City ground after the defense performed heroics but it was n't parking the bus ! We hit the woodwork 3 times and failed to make it 2-0. You call that parking the bus ?
I missed very few matches the last eight seasons,
The only cases where we indeed parked the bus on purpose were those two & with 10 men in the case of Barcelona.
But that's neither here nor there. When a team has to approach a match that way they should do so. I did not comment against our opponents of two days ago for doing that but because they are a very poor side and we should be winning 5-0 against such opposition. 
About Leicester I did not say the same things, because they put up a very good performance.

[manpe 10,855]

7 minutes ago, cosmicway said:

Against City couple of seasons ago we won 1-0 at the City ground after the defense performed heroics but it was n't parking the bus ! We hit the woodwork 3 times and failed to make it 2-0. You call that parking the bus ?
...
The only cases where we indeed parked the bus on purpose were those two & with 10 men in the case of Barcelona.

No, I never said that game was bus parking. Also Soton didn't, throughout the game they tried to attack, only in the last minutes they went full bus to keep the draw.

With your second statement I disagree and I'll leave it at that. I think that not many will agree with you on this, we didn't become notorious for it for playing only 2 games like that. Even the final against Bayern in 2012 was a bus job, won the damn thing by some cosmic luck.
 

[Tomo 21,681]

21 hours ago, Special Juan said:

This is were the derision comes from, the no in between of the manager, no middle ground or no correct identification.

Sarri says "I like him" the board says "No, we don't, we need him".....BOOOMMMMMMM negative words start in press conferences and it's rinse and repeat again.

Sarri was asked his opinion on Pulisic a month ago and his response was positive. Many clubs have transfers decided above the manager these days (when Levy does it he's branded a genius) and Sarri has already said he has no intention of going all football manager on the board like Conte did. The youth signings of the early 10's were board driven but if we had a manager who utilized them properly we'd be the best in the league right now.

The only time it becomes an issue in my opinion is if the signing is against Sarri's philosophy (for example Lukaku) or is not/has no potential to be the required quality, neither apply to Pulisic.

[Jase 43,479]

8 hours ago, Tomo said:

Sarri was asked his opinion on Pulisic a month ago and his response was positive. Many clubs have transfers decided above the manager these days (when Levy does it he's branded a genius) and Sarri has already said he has no intention of going all football manager on the board like Conte did. The youth signings of the early 10's were board driven but if we had a manager who utilized them properly we'd be the best in the league right now.

The only time it becomes an issue in my opinion is if the signing is against Sarri's philosophy (for example Lukaku) or is not/has no potential to be the required quality, neither apply to Pulisic.

When Sarri said he did not know about the Pulisic move, did he mean he did not know the progress of the deal - he mentioned he was too busy to know having to manage every 3-4 days - or did he actually mean he did not know we were going to buy him despite having been asked about him? I know our board are crap and love to go on their own but it would really be BS if they did not give Sarri a heads up when they asked him about Pulisic.

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When Sarri said he did not know about the Pulisic move, did he mean he did not know the progress of the deal - he mentioned he was too busy to know having to managed every 3-4 days - or did he actually mean he did not know we were going to buy him despite having been asked about him? I know our board are crap and love to go on their own but it would really be BS if they did not give Sarri a heads up when they asked him about Pulisic.

Was the full quote posted, cause I swear there was something in the lines of ‘They asked me about him a month ago but I didn’t know it was done until they announced it.”


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7 hours ago, Jason said:

When Sarri said he did not know about the Pulisic move, did he mean he did not know the progress of the deal - he mentioned he was too busy to know having to manage every 3-4 days - or did he actually mean he did not know we were going to buy him despite having been asked about him? I know our board are crap and love to go on their own but it would really be BS if they did not give Sarri a heads up when they asked him about Pulisic.

Chelsea transfer news: Maurizio Sarri admits he was kept in the dark over Christian Pulisic move

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/transfers/chelsea-transfer-news-rumours-latest-christian-pulisic-maurizio-sarri-done-deal-watch-video-round-up-a8709201.html

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“I didn’t know anything about [signing] Pulisic yesterday,” Sarri told the BBC following Chelsea's 0-0 draw with Southampton on Wednesday.Spurs exit, Arsenal bids, United pick No 1 target,    

“They asked my opinion about him one month ago. My opinion was positive and today I knew that the deal is done but I didn’t know anything.”

Sarri added that he has little control over Chelsea’s transfer activity.

“I am not in charge of the market so I have to tend to my matches and play every three days. I can only say my opinion to the club,” Sarri said.

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Sry for the result guys... that's what happend when we play with league 3 striker...