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3 hours ago, Mana said:

Yeah, you need to shake your heads a lot more if you think this is all about the lack of training time and hardly anything to do with the shite players. It doesn't matter if Sarri had a full length pre-season. Doesn't fecking matter.

If you have donkeys on the pitch that don't execute your tactics properly, you'll never get far.

Sarri has been here for 4 months now. He has settled in, so this lack of training time doesn't hold water now. It only holds water at the beginning of the season.

I never said it was all about training time, but it plays a massive part of it. @Unionjack this is in some ways a reply to what you're saying too.

To use another analogy, if you were an officer trained on homicide cases and move to child protection, you will need a fair bit of training to perfect it. In a footballing sense the shift from Conte to Sarri is almost as extreme and the training time since Sarri's arrival has been pretty broken.

Of Course there's some average players that need overhauling, but sod all time to train and implement a new system is a killer, especially when it's miles in difference from the last one.

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46 minutes ago, Tomo said:

I never said it was all about training time, but it plays a massive part of it. @Unionjack this is in some ways a reply to what you're saying too.

To use another analogy, if you were an officer trained on homicide cases and move to child protection, you will need a fair bit of training to perfect it. In a footballing sense the shift from Conte to Sarri is almost as extreme and the training time since Sarri's arrival has been pretty broken.

Of Course there's some average players that need overhauling, but sod all time to train and implement a new system is a killer, especially when it's miles in difference from the last one.

True. Having complete preseason and transfers done soon can make massive difference. 

Thats why some smaller teams that do business smart and soon end up ahead of those that spend shitload in the last minute. Same applies for best teams.

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2 hours ago, Tomo said:

I never said it was all about training time, but it plays a massive part of it. @Unionjack this is in some ways a reply to what you're saying too.

To use another analogy, if you were an officer trained on homicide cases and move to child protection, you will need a fair bit of training to perfect it. In a footballing sense the shift from Conte to Sarri is almost as extreme and the training time since Sarri's arrival has been pretty broken.

Of Course there's some average players that need overhauling, but sod all time to train and implement a new system is a killer, especially when it's miles in difference from the last one.

You know i would be much more understanding of that Conte to Sarri angle if our problem at the moment was conceding goals, but our issue at the moment is scoring goals and creating opportunities. I really can't excuse the fact this is not attacking football, this system is quite defensive in all honestly. Alonso and Azpi don't really bomb forward either due to lack of skills or instruction, and you have three hard working midfielders who are very rigid. 

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Mana said:

So what you're telling me is if Sarri was appointed before the World Cup and had all that pre-season time....

Morata, Willian, Giroud, Alonso etc. will suddenly become Supermen?

The only thing that could have happened maybe, is that Sarri knew the players he had were shite and pressed the board for new players before the season started. But then, I'm hearing conflicting reports that he isn't the type to press the board for players. So what's the point.

Your 'training time' case, only applies for certain players like Kante, Jorginho, maybe Pedro, Azpi and Luiz. (And the youths if Sarri uses them more!) But you cannot convince me that some donkeys in the starting XI will suddenly become like the next homecoming, especially they were barely even good in the past.

No they won't become supermen but they could maybe have had their flaws somewhat hidden by the system, look at what's happening with Liverpool for example, they are top of the league with Lovren, Shaqiri and Henderson (probably even more flawed than the guys you mentioned) playing significant minutes.

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12 hours ago, Tomo said:

I never said it was all about training time, but it plays a massive part of it. @Unionjack this is in some ways a reply to what you're saying too.

To use another analogy, if you were an officer trained on homicide cases and move to child protection, you will need a fair bit of training to perfect it. In a footballing sense the shift from Conte to Sarri is almost as extreme and the training time since Sarri's arrival has been pretty broken.

Of Course there's some average players that need overhauling, but sod all time to train and implement a new system is a killer, especially when it's miles in difference from the last one.

Agree to alot  and of course a proper pre season makes a big difference and changing out style 100% is a major thing.

But we have seen from a early time upto Shitty that theres been times we have IMO played great attacking football and that his way of playing works against the likes of Shitty and Victimpool/

We just dont seem to have the ability to remember - or put into practice - what we do from week to week.

And I'll say it again theres something missing in our players character - or THE TEAMS character. We dont have that urge to win. OK we have been real unluckyy and we would be much better with a overhaul, but till we get into the players heads the song will remain the same (Set you up @Fulham Broadway =D)

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We are in desperate need of a striker. Nothing has relaced Diego. Two really, when you look at our rivals they have plenty.

Theres not much else wrong tbh. There is if you go looking for things, but the fundamental negative is the lack of a ruthless target man.

 

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1 minute ago, Fulham Broadway said:

We are in desperate need of a striker. Nothing has relaced Diego. Two really, when you look at our rivals they have plenty.

Theres not much else wrong tbh. There is if you go looking for things, but the fundamental negative is the lack of a ruthless target man.

 

We do have to get another goal scorer apart from striker mate. A ACM would be perfect cause we dont have 1 to give us goals.

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9 minutes ago, Unionjack said:

We do have to get another goal scorer apart from striker mate. A ACM would be perfect cause we dont have 1 to give us goals.

Two striking options is ideal, but would settle for one atm. A target man which would take defenders away from Hazard, Willian etc.

Have the feeling they will sort it this month, but it depends who it is. We don't want a Morata mk 2.

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22 minutes ago, Jason said:

Jody is not wrong, is he?

Don't play them in league games? Fine. Don't play them in cup games, against lowly teams? That's just nonsense.

Our coaches are at fault. CHO played a world class pre season.He destroyed Inter and Arsenal and he was our best player against Manchester City. What did Sarri then do? He put a fucking Moses in front of CHO, so CHO could not get any play time anymore. Fucking Moses. This says a lot about the mentatlity of our coaches.

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