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Special Juan

Sarri But Not Sarri Thread

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5 hours ago, coolhead23 said:

Honestly the so called analysis r just irrelevant at this stage ... 

In Sarri's strategy, you need someone doing the dirty work to cover the deep lying midfield and cover the defense. We didnt have a specialist hence the distance between back line & front, hence the reason why defensive kept falling back while no one pressed the striker who had a free run to the goal. Now put in one of the best i.e. Kante besides Jorginho and the results will be so much better. because now Kante is covering his deep lying playmaker allowing him space and doubling up while the defense is holding it's line & moving back. 

I didnt get a chance to see the match but looking at the score line against a well oiled machinery says that we didnt do badly in our defense specially when it's a make shift one. 

The problem at hand (Jorginho is not a strong lad when it comes to defense - my opinion) is that whether we get a creative no 10 (Fabregas) or a physical midfield with work rate (the ones we have are Barley & RLC). Both would come with Pros & Cons. Thats is something Sarri will have a tough time with the current squad. 

I feel we wouldnt do well in the first few games until the system is ingrained in the players. Once it is done, then it will all come down to discipline of the players because this will only work if players show the discipline.  

I think the analysis is good because every match (except the one today which comes too quickly) is an opportunity to see how far the squad are coming along.

I'm expecting to not do so well for the first few months.  

There's an example out there (Napoli) of what the finished product looks like (or close to, because we are different), the analysis of our matches shows us how far we still need to go.  

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When he signed, he said that we need just a sprinkle of quality in midfield. I am pretty sure he has changed his mine after training session plus that city game. 

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4 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

I think the analysis is good because every match (except the one today which comes too quickly) is an opportunity to see how far the squad are coming along.

I'm expecting to not do so well for the first few months.  

There's an example out there (Napoli) of what the finished product looks like (or close to, because we are different), the analysis of our matches shows us how far we still need to go.  

The reason I mentioned irrelevant because we dont have our main players in ... Once they're back then we would understand where we stand on day one and where on day let say thirty. Right now we got badly exposed as explained in the video :) 

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There's a site I haven't been to in a while, had a look for some Sarri articles and saw one that was interesting, and I don't recall seeing it here:

http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/07/30/breaking-down-maurizio-sarri-tactics/

Edit:  most of it is stuff you've all read or watched by now.  But this video at the end of the article had a few nice examples of how the short passing distracts defenders and allows player to make runs in behind.

 

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Sarri might have more pulling power than we think. When he was at Empoli Etoo came to him to meet and told him that he was his admirer. Sarri asked him whether he was joking. This Kovacic loan deal made me remember that incident. I don't know if this was shared before.

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I like that the squad is not thin anymore and has decent backup players. Will need two players for each position with Europa League this year. Youngsters like RLC, CHO, Tammy, Ampadu could gain good experience rotating with the first team squad this year if they are retained.  

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13 hours ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

Don't know if anyone's seen this:

But, that man stepping out from defence was not happening against City.  Rudiger kept backing off Aguero for the first goal. 

because of david luiz, always away from  the right position, a real disaster. 

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Possession...check

Chance creation....check (or close enough)

Pressing...clearly work in progress, but should get there

The big question for me is....where are all the goals going to come from? The one consistent trend in our past few matches is the inability to maintain a-goal-a-game ratio

Giroud is not the most prolific, and then there's Morata. Unless Sarri creates a Salah or Mertens out of one of the midfielders, I'm a bit worried. Its a shame Pedro isn't any younger. He could have been a suitable candidate for the Mertens role.

 

 

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3 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Possession...check

Chance creation....check (or close enough)

Pressing...clearly work in progress, but should get there

The big question for me is....where are all the goals going to come from? The one consistent trend in our past few matches is the inability to maintain a-goal-a-game ratio

Giroud is not the most prolific, and then there's Morata. Unless Sarri creates a Salah or Mertens out of one of the midfielders, I'm a bit worried. Its a shame Pedro isn't any younger. He could have been a suitable candidate for the Mertens role.

 

 

Pedro could still play the mertens role imo. If Morata still doesnt improve after the first five EPL games, then it is worth a gamble to put pedro there. He understands the system, is still fast, is a better finisher than anyone in our team and will allow our front line to be more fluid.

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4 hours ago, Blue Armour said:

Possession...check

Chance creation....check (or close enough)

Pressing...clearly work in progress, but should get there

The big question for me is....where are all the goals going to come from? The one consistent trend in our past few matches is the inability to maintain a-goal-a-game ratio

Giroud is not the most prolific, and then there's Morata. Unless Sarri creates a Salah or Mertens out of one of the midfielders, I'm a bit worried. Its a shame Pedro isn't any younger. He could have been a suitable candidate for the Mertens role.

 

 

IF we dont get a goal scorer of some standard today then I'm open to trying every possibility cause the ones we have now dont work.

SEEMS Tammy is staying but going by his opening tries I dont see why. Bats is off on ventures again. Giroud is just a target for crosses and sad to say Morata needs a good psychologist.

Pedro wont last a full game with his demented Freddy Mercury character but got to go down every avenue to find one that leads to goals.

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Dear Bats,

This is your chance to show what you’re made of. You’re our last hope.

Otherwise we are screwed and 5th/6th place is calling for us at the end of the season.

Become our new blue superhero.

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3 minutes ago, Mana said:

Dear Bats,

This is your chance to show what you’re made of. You’re our last hope.

Otherwise we are screwed and 5th/6th place is calling for us at the end of the season.

Become our new blue superhero.

he already scored the championship goal :)

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some nice moves for transfers, but our fullbacks, centre backs and forwards will not allow us to climb the PL table unless another side shits the bed.

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6 hours ago, milka said:

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Big ass squad. Not just the 'red players' will have to leave. 25 senior players alone (+ Ampadu and Hudson-Odoi) is too much. So I wonder who's leaving.

Looking at the quality of the top6 squads, I rate City's, Utd's and Pool's team higher than Chelsea's. Chels also going through a big change in terms of style.

So City to retain the title, Liverpool and Utd chasing City and Chels, Spurs and Arsenal for 4th for me. If the transition under Sarri goes well, Chels should finish above Arsenal. Spurs failed to strengthen so that could possibly hurt them. Though compared to last season they do have a fit Alderweireld, Rose, Wanyama, Winks and even Dembele to certain extent.

Hopefully finishing 5th last season and a fresh start under Sarri will fire this lot up to secure that top 4 finish at the very least. Maybe add the Europa League and a cup to gloss up 18/19 and set a winning mood.

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18 minutes ago, DYC. said:

So City to retain the title, Liverpool and Utd chasing City and Chels, Spurs and Arsenal for 4th for me

You got no faith?

What we have different (apart from manager,style) is one of the best CM going, It will make such a big difference to our top 3.

OK we dont have a standout 20+ goal giver but I can see them all getting more if they put themselves in the right places in this system.

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Don't expect Sarriball to work in an instant. Give it half a year. Sarri is our board's dream head coach, think he will stay for 2 years if we at least qualify for CL next season.

Well, we will play once a week (we will play kids for EL anyway), so that will be a nice handicap. Think we have a good chance to compete for top 4. If something bad happened, we could shift the target for EL trophy. EFL or FA is a bonus.

 

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I think we have enough to make top 4, I was really worried about our strike force initially but my thoughts are, or hopes rather... in Sarri's more attacking system, our front 3 should be full of confidence and expressing themselves like we've never seen them able to before and this should mean more goals.

We've gone from having one of the worst to one of the best midfields of top 6. I believe what Pep has done to the likes of Sterling etc is just through confidence and the fun he allows players to have, Sarri should bring this also if he is what we expect him to be.
 

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I am confident in our top 4 charge. However I view City and Liverpool as the clear 1/2. I'd expect Us 3rd followed by Spurs or United. A successful season to me is implementing sarri style successfully, re-signing Hazard & Kante, securing Champions league football. We could take the momentum of Hazard/Sarri/CL into the summer and continue with focused QUALITY buying.

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