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The Skipper

20. Callum Hudson-Odoi

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7 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Board better not fuck up and keep him at all costs.

That said, I dont think he actualy wanted to leave in january. Bayern was surely serious, but Odoi giving transfer request was probably just press bs.

I highly doubt you reject a contract offer of a reported £85k p/w if you aren't serious about leaving. The main thing is about swaying him to stay from now and giving him appropriate game time.

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2 hours ago, Special Juan said:

He has a long way to go because he's 18, the frustration from the fans come because he is actually as good in terms of quality as Pedro and Willian, they only have experience over him. His experience will come when he plays more, and that's what he needs.

He needs more than the last 10 minutes of games, he should be playing and starting more. I'm not saying every game but more often and less cameo roles.

If we are willing to persist with Alonso we have to be willing to give this lad more chances.

How often has he had just the last ten minutes of games? And how many of them have been with the game already won? 

Most of his sub appearances have been a good chunk of minutes and with the game far from over.

Apart from Huddersfield at home all his minutes have been quite important in terms of either length or chasing/holding a scoreline.

I agree he should have played more but he has still been played in pretty important circumstances.

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

How often has he had just the last ten minutes of games? And how many of them have been with the game already won? 

Most of his sub appearances have been a good chunk of minutes and with the game far from over.

Apart from Huddersfield at home all his minutes have been quite important in terms of either length or chasing/holding a scoreline.

I agree he should have played more but he has still been played in pretty important circumstances.

that is not borne out if we are talking the EPL

until the Wolves game he only had 74 total minutes

and still only has 103 all year, out of a possible 2610

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Think he still has a way to go. Can be a real potential. but at the minute can be naïve at times. If he was given 90 minutes regularly now, pretty certain he'd find himself dropped due to errors. Cameo roles atm seems about right, makes him concentrate the mind and play his best. His time will come.

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1 hour ago, Vesper said:

that is not borne out if we are talking the EPL

until the Wolves game he only had 74 total minutes

and still only has 103 all year, out of a possible 2610

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The league's the one tournament more minutes should have been afforded but ultimately he's likely going to end the season on around 25 appearances including a cup final, a semi at Wembley against Spurs while also being used in circumstances we are chasing (Wolves, Watford) or trying to close out games (Newcastle, Kiev at home to an extent).

The big disappointment for me is he didn't get the early round Europa and Carabao games, but beyond that I think his game time has been largely positive and we would have all took 25 ish appearances in the season for Callum had we been offered that in summer.

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1 hour ago, Fulham Broadway said:

Think he still has a way to go. Can be a real potential. but at the minute can be naïve at times. If he was given 90 minutes regularly now, pretty certain he'd find himself dropped due to errors. Cameo roles atm seems about right, makes him concentrate the mind and play his best. His time will come.

exactly!

When Eden plays, which is most of the time, we already have a winger who does not track back or defend. Our left side will always be a bit more vulnerable because of that.
So, for Odoi to get regular playing time he must help defensively. I could almost hear the/any manager saying as Odoi is about to to in, "I want you to do what Willian/Pedro is doing. Same movement and defending... once you have the ball, then you do your own thing!"

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37 minutes ago, Robchels said:

exactly!

When Eden plays, which is most of the time, we already have a winger who does not track back or defend. Our left side will always be a bit more vulnerable because of that.
So, for Odoi to get regular playing time he must help defensively. I could almost hear the/any manager saying as Odoi is about to to in, "I want you to do what Willian/Pedro is doing. Same movement and defending... once you have the ball, then you do your own thing!"

Definitely. In a nutshell he has that notion he is better than he is atm. Sturridge was the same. Not a bad attitude to have, better than being negative, but he has to earn respect from helping his team mates out, defending as you say, for example speedy tacking back to get the tackle in 

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There will be even more clamour for him to play more regularly now but hopefully sane minds will realise that his development this season has been very good and to be called up to the England side a couple of months after your 18th birthday having been playing for a top 6 club is very good going. 

With hazard almost certainly out the door in the summer the opportunity is there for CHO to replace him and cement a first choice place. 

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Its not premature IMO. 

Obviously CHO isnt great player yet, but he has massive massive potential. And Southgate is giving proper faith in him. 

Sancho and CHO are two young english players who have shown most this season along with TAA who established himself last season already. 

Dont know what you lot are on about, all other fans see these young players deserve it with no ifs and buts. Here every second post casts doubts and complaints.

CHO is huge talent and in order to develop he needs playtime and trust from coaches. 

This bs that he isnt ready yet and everything coming too soon is nonsense. If you have the talent, you have to be thrown in the fire from the start to prove if you can handle it.

I agree he should never be paid whatever he is/will be at 18, money turns focus away, but the nt call is deserved. Its a reward for good work from Southgate. And its also not that big of a deal, since Southgate throws couple kids in almost every team selection, it would be almost surprising if he didnt include CHO soon.

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I'm sick of people saying "He's not READDDEEEHHH!" to cover Sarri's ass.

How the feck is he ever going to be ready when he gets no to little experience? Use your head! Less than 100 minutes of PL football is very little experience!

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