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xPetrCechx

Chelsea banned for TWO transfer windows

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11 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

Ban remains, Hazard and Sarri bail out because they know the mess the club is in and we have two of our future starts fucked and on crutches.

What a fucking mess this all is.

And not one person from the board will be punished for this. 

Punishment solely on the fans and season ticket holders who get to watch first hand this disastrous season, week in week out. 

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Definitely. Just hope they can perform and don't get out under pressure. Not that there should be as can't really replace. Work with what we've got. 

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I see City have managed to get away with just a small fine. FIFA are the most corrupt organisation going.

I suppose pleading guilty immediately works in your favour.

 

Someone should have given the memo to our board.

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Should lodge a seperate case to CAS or whatever it is. Surely FIFA cant hold one team to a different standard over the same offense? Ridiculous.

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Manchester City avoid Fifa transfer ban despite breaking rules on signing young players

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/man-city-transfer-ban-fifa-latest-news-young-players-a9056256.html

Manchester City have avoided a Fifa transfer ban despite being found to have broken rules regarding the signing of young players.

City have been fined 370,000 Swiss francs (£314,725) by world football’s governing body after admitting to breaching regulations on the international transfer of under-18s.

The Premier League champions faced being hit with a year-long ban on signings, similar to the punishment Chelsea received from Fifa for the same offence earlier this year.

But in a statement released on Tuesday afternoon, Fifa announced City would only receive a financial sanction having “accepted its responsibility” in the case.

City remain under investigation by Uefa, who are looking into their compliance with their Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules. A ban from next season’s Champions League is a possible punishment.

The Premier League are also investigating City’s recruitment of academy players and FFP compliance, while the Football Association is looking into the signing of Jadon Sancho as a 14-year-old from Watford.

But City have now escaped the prospect of a blanket ban on signing players, in what will come as a great relief to manager Pep Guardiola.

In a statement, City said: “The club accepts responsibility for the breaches which arose as a result of misinterpretation of the regulations in question.

“All of the breaches occurred before December 2016 when guidance on the interpretation of the provisions was issued, since which date Manchester City has been fully compliant.

“The club regards highly and shares Fifa’s determination to ensure the protection of minors in football and has cooperated fully with the investigation which has been transparent and evidenced based at all times.”

 

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:rant::rant::rant:

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Context guys. 
We did it a second time. 
Did not learn from Kakuta. So we deserved it! 
We were punished first time around as were Atletico, Barcelona & RM IIRC.

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Shady as fuck....and what the fuck happened to their CL ban? Where is the case with all their shady shit they have pulled off?

Fifa and UEFA are like hydra, you cut of one head and another grows back. You remove a corrupt cunt like platini etc and 5min later another shady bum takes his place.

Footy has long been corrupt, long.

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26 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Shady as fuck....and what the fuck happened to their CL ban? Where is the case with all their shady shit they have pulled off?

Fifa and UEFA are like hydra, you cut of one head and another grows back. You remove a corrupt cunt like platini etc and 5min later another shady bum takes his place.

Footy has long been corrupt, long.

UEFA are still investigating.

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26 minutes ago, Atomiswave said:

Shady as fuck....and what the fuck happened to their CL ban? Where is the case with all their shady shit they have pulled off?

Fifa and UEFA are like hydra, you cut of one head and another grows back. You remove a corrupt cunt like platini etc and 5min later another shady bum takes his place.

Footy has long been corrupt, long.

UEFA still has not decided if they get a CL ban

two separate cases (UEFA is FFP)

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5 minutes ago, Vesper said:

UEFA still has not decided if they get a CL ban

two separate cases (UEFA is FFP)

They better show us something soonish.......you dont have to be inspector gadget to immediately see they are shady as fuck.....its written in their essence.

6 minutes ago, Mana said:

UEFA are still investigating.

They are taking their time thats for sure.

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1 minute ago, Atomiswave said:

They better show us something soonish.......you dont have to be inspector gadget to immediately see they are shady as fuck.....its written in their essence.

They are taking their time thats for sure.

this rat controls over a TRILLION quid in state and private assets when you add up all his tie-ups and interlocks in the UAE

could bribe every single major football official and board member in the world £10m a pop and probably be back to par in a day or two

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@Vesper you seem to be 'in the know' with these sorts of things. Forget the appeals, etc after CAS what were the original punishments handed out by FIFA for the Spanish clubs and how many players were they found guilty with regards to the breaches?

And also I'm not sure if there are any cases beyond the high profile clubs - has anyone before City avoided a ban from FIFA for this breach before?

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45 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

@Vesper you seem to be 'in the know' with these sorts of things. Forget the appeals, etc after CAS what were the original punishments handed out by FIFA for the Spanish clubs and how many players were they found guilty with regards to the breaches?

And also I'm not sure if there are any cases beyond the high profile clubs - has anyone before City avoided a ban from FIFA for this breach before?

Barca

FIFA handed down the 14-month transfer ban in April, 2014, when Barcelona were found to have violated Article 19 of the FIFA Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players by signing international players under the age of 18. An appeal pushed the punishment to 2015, allowing the club to sign Luis Suarez, Ivan Rakitic, Jeremy Mathieu, Claudio Bravo and Marc-Andre ter Stegen (the two Madrid clubs appealed earlier this year in order to sign reinforcements this summer).

A Fifa investigation - centred on several players aged under 18 who were registered and played for the club between 2009 and 2013 - found that Barcelona and the RFEF were guilty of a "serious" infringement of the rules in relation to 10 players.

 

Spanish FA, FC Barcelona sanctioned for international transfers of minors

https://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2014/m=4/news=spanish-barcelona-sanctioned-for-international-transfers-minors-2313003.html

The FIFA Disciplinary Committee has sanctioned the Real Federación Española de Fútbol (RFEF) and Spanish club FC Barcelona for breaches relating to the international transfer and registration of players under the age of 18.

The sanctions follow investigations initially conducted by FIFA Transfer Matching System GmbH (FIFA TMS) over the course of last year and subsequently by the FIFA Disciplinary Committee as part of disciplinary proceedings. The RFEF and FC Barcelona were found to have violated several provisions concerning the international transfer and first registration of non-Spanish minors with the club, as well as other relevant regulations with regard to the registration and participation of certain players in national competitions. The investigations concerned several minor players who were registered and participated in competitions with the club over various periods between 2009 and 2013.

Currently, the main provision relating to the protection of minors in the context of international transfers is art. 19 of the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (the “Regulations”). According to art. 19, international transfers of players are only permitted if the player is over the age of 18. However, the same article stipulates that international transfers of minor players are permitted under three limited circumstances, and such exceptions may only be granted after evaluation by the sub-committee of the Players’ Status Committee.

In this respect, the Disciplinary Committee emphasised that the protection of minors in the context of international transfers is an important social and legal issue that concerns all stakeholders in football. Above all, the committee highlighted that while international transfers might, in specific cases, be favourable to a young player’s sporting career, they are very likely to be contrary to the best interests of the player as a minor. On the basis of this analysis, the committee concluded that “the interest in protecting the appropriate and healthy development of a minor as a whole must prevail over purely sporting interests.”

The Disciplinary Committee underlined that FIFA takes the protection of minors in football very seriously. The protection of minors is one of the key principles included in the agreement concluded between FIFA, UEFA and the European Commission in 2001. The Disciplinary Committee acknowledged that young football players are vulnerable to exploitation and abuse in a foreign country without the proper controls. This particular fact makes the protection of minors in football by the sport’s governing bodies, especially by FIFA, even more important.

With regard to the case in question, FC Barcelona has been found to be in breach of art. 19 of the Regulations in the case of ten minor players and to have committed several other concurrent infringements in the context of other players, including under Annexe 2 of the Regulations.

The Disciplinary Committee regarded the infringements as serious and decided to sanction the club with a transfer ban at both national and international level for two complete and consecutive transfer periods, together with a fine of CHF 450,000. Additionally, the club was granted a period of 90 days in which to regularise the situation of all minor players concerned.

With regard to the RFEF, the Disciplinary Committee determined that the association had also violated art. 19 of the Regulations and other provisions in the context of the transfer and first registration of certain minor players. In this respect, the RFEF was sanctioned with a fine of CHF 500,000 and granted a period of one year in which to regularise their regulatory framework and existing system concerning the international transfer of minors in football.

In addition, the RFEF and the club were issued with a reprimand in accordance with art. 14 of the FIFA Disciplinary Code.

The web-based Transfer Matching System (TMS) became mandatory for all international transfers of professional male players within the scope of eleven-a-side football in October 2010. As early as 2009, the use of TMS was obligatory in all applications for a first registration of a minor or an international transfer involving a minor in accordance with art. 19 of the Regulations.

FIFA TMS, founded as a FIFA subsidiary in 2007, established a compliance programme in 2010 to ensure that all international transfers of professional football players are conducted through TMS in accordance with the Regulations, and to control the integrity of club and association behaviour and data in TMS. Cases involving violations of the Regulations, in particular Annexes 2 and 3, are identified and investigated and, where applicable, are then forwarded to the FIFA Disciplinary Committee for evaluation and decision. FIFA TMS monitors transfer activity using internally-developed market intelligence, external sources and information received from the FIFA Players’ Status & Governance and Disciplinary & Governance departments.

 

Barcelona's transfer ban is lifted for the summer

https://www.joe.ie/uncategorized/barcelonas-transfer-ban-is-lifted-for-the-summer-425859

 

FC Barcelona appeal granted suspensive effect

https://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2014/m=4/news=fc-barcelona-appeal-granted-suspensive-effect-2322794.html

The club FC Barcelona has lodged an appeal before the FIFA Appeal Committee against the decision of the FIFA Disciplinary Committee that sanctioned the club for breaches relating to the international transfer and registration of players under the age of 18. Together with the appeal, the club requested that its appeal be granted suspensive effect.

In this respect, the chairman of the FIFA Appeal Committee, Larry Mussenden, took into consideration the sanctions imposed against the club, the complexity of the matter, the start date of the next registration period – 1 July 2014 – and the fact that the FIFA Appeal Committee does not seem in a position to take a decision on the main issue early enough so that an eventual appeal of the club against its decision before the Court of Arbitration for Sport would still be decided before the beginning of the next registration period. Consequently, the chairman of the FIFA Appeal Committee considered that the appeal lodged by the club is to be granted suspensive effect.

In view of the foregoing, the chairman of the FIFA Appeal Committee assures that proper and adequate appeal proceedings will take place and, at the same time, that all rights of the club will be respected.

 

 

Real and Atletico

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3399692/Real-Madrid-transfer-ban-Q-need-know-Zinedine-Zidane-s-kids-caught-controversy.html

Real Madrid and Atletico cannot sign players until the summer of 2017
FIFA announced the decision on Thursday after a year-long investigation

Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid face the same two-transfer window ban as Barcelona after Claudio Sulser, the head of Fifa’s Discipline Committee, published his decision on Thursday after a year-long investigation. What have the two clubs done wrong? Will they appeal? And will they now go transfer crazy? Sportsmail answers some of the questions.


Have the broken the same rules as Barcelona?

Yes. Article 19 of Fifa’s transfer regulations state that transfers of under 18s are only possible in one of three very specific circumstances. 

1) Both the player’s parents have moved to the city where the new club is based and have made the move for reasons not related to the transfer. 

2) The transfer is between two European clubs and the player is over 16. 

3) If a player lives 50 km from the border of the country he is moving to and the club is also 50m from the same border.

How many players and during what period of time are the two clubs believed to have broken these rules?

Atletico Madrid from 2007 to 2014 and Real Madrid from 2005 to 2014. Up to 50 players from both clubs are understood to have been investigated and the children of current coach Zinedine Zidane - Enzo, Luca, Theo and Eliaz are believed to be among those adjudged to have broken the rules.

Have Fifa got this right?

Barcelona raged against their ban on the basis that the sanction did nothing to protect young footballers, but instead attacked clubs who take good care of them and, in effect, offer them football scholarships. 

he Madrid clubs may well make the same arguments. But they may also contest the accuracy of Fifa’s findings – Zidane’s sons have all been living in Madrid since 2001.

If the rulings stand what are the consequences for the club?

They cannot register any new players this summer or in the winter window of 2017. The only exception will be Atletico Madrid’s women’s team (Real have no female team). 

Atletico must also pay a fine of 900,000 Swiss Francs and Real Madrid 360,000. And they have 90 days to put their respective houses in order.

Will they appeal?

Yes. Atletico Madrid have already confirmed they will appeal and Real Madrid are expected to follow suit.

What is the process?

They will first appeal to Fifa and they will ask for special dispensation to sign players next summer because the result of their appeal could come just a few weeks before the end of the season leaving them little time to plan for it. 

The most likely outcome is that Fifa reject their appeals but that the clubs then appeal to the Court of Arbitration in Sport and because CAS’ decision is also likely to be made close to the opening of the summer window they will be granted an extra window to sign players before the ban kicks in. That, at least, is what happened to Barcelona.

Atlético de Madrid and Real Madrid sanctioned for international transfers of minors

https://www.fifa.com/governance/news/y=2016/m=1/news=atletico-de-madrid-and-real-madrid-sanctioned-for-international-transf-2755486.html

The FIFA Disciplinary Committee has sanctioned Spanish clubs Atlético de Madrid and Real Madrid for breaches relating to the international transfer and registration of players under the age of 18.

The two clubs were found to have violated several provisions concerning the international transfer and first registration of minor players as well as other relevant provisions with regard to the registration and participation of certain players in competitions.

Both clubs are to serve a transfer ban that prevents them from registering any players at national and international level for the next two complete and consecutive registration periods for breaching articles 5, 9, 19 and 19bis as well as annexes 2 and 3 of the Regulations on the Status and Transfer of Players (the “Regulations”). The transfer ban, which does not affect the current registration period at all, given that it opened before the decisions were notified, applies to each club as a whole – with the exception of the women’s, futsal and beach soccer teams – and does not prevent the release of players.

Additionally, Atlético de Madrid and Real Madrid have been fined CHF 900,000 and CHF 360,000 respectively, while both clubs have been issued with a reprimand and given 90 days in which to regularise the situation of all minor players concerned.

The decisions, which were notified to the parties concerned today, were made based on the specific elements of each case. They follow investigations initially conducted by FIFA Transfer Matching System GmbH (FIFA TMS) and subsequently by the FIFA Disciplinary Committee as part of disciplinary proceedings. The investigations concerned minor players who were involved and participated in competitions with the clubs over various periods between 2007 and 2014 (Atlético de Madrid) and between 2005 and 2014 (Real Madrid).

FIFA works hard to protect the rights of players under the age of 18 – whether male or female, amateur or professional. This is done through the enforcement of regulations prohibiting the international transfer of minors, or the first registration of minors in a country other than their own, except in specific circumstances (cf. art. 19 of the Regulations) that must be approved by the sub-committee appointed by the Players’ Status Committee. As such, the provisions relating to the protection of minors need to be strictly applied. This has been confirmed on various occasions by the Court of Arbitration for Sport. Opening up the door to exceptions beyond those carefully drafted and included in the Regulations would unavoidably lead to cases of circumvention of the rationale for these provisions.

The web-based Transfer Matching System (TMS) provides a crucial platform to monitor the international transfer market, to ensure compliance with the rules, and to promote transparency and best practice.

 

 

 

Real Madrid's transfer ban reduced to one window following appeal to Cas

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38380983

 

Atletico Madrid transfer ban upheld by Court of Arbitration for Sport

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40117879

 

7 Football Teams Who Received Transfer Bans & How They Fared Afterwards

https://www.90min.com/posts/6303088-7-football-teams-who-received-transfer-bans-how-they-fared-afterwards

Chelsea's long list of problems has been added to as the Blues have been handed a two-window transfer ban, as a result of breaking regulations involving youth players.

With many fans calling for a complete overhaul of the playing squad, this transfer ban will come as awful news. However, they are not the first club in history to be hit with a transfer ban, and such a restriction has occasionally proven to be nothing more than a minor inconvenience.

 

Here are seven teams who were hit with transfer bans, and how they all coped with the ruling.

Roma

When Roma brought French centre back Philippe Mexes to the club in 2004, they unwittingly brought a lot of controversy with him. He signed a four-year contract, but was still under contract with Auxerre, who did not agree to the deal. As a result, Roma were handed a one-year transfer ban.

This ban was one of many issues faced by Roma in the 2004/05 season. Manager Fabio Capello had already left to join rivals Juventus, and clashes between players left Roma in the midst of a relegation battle all season.

They eventually survived by just three points, although that did mean they finished a surprisingly-high eighth in the table. They also made it to the final of the Coppa Italia, which gifted them qualification to the UEFA Cup. 

Sion

Sion's transfer ban in 2008 threatened to derail the entirety of Swiss football. The entire debacle began when Sion signed Egyptian goalkeeper Essam El-Hadary whilst he was still under contract with Al Ahly. As a result, they were given a two-year ban.

The team challenged the ruling, pursuing legal action against both FIFA and the Swiss Football League after they were also excluded from the 2011/12 Europa League. They lost their lengthy legal battles, and FIFA threatened to exclude all Swiss teams from European competition if Sion were not appropriately punished by the SFL.

Sion had a whopping 36 points deducted, which thrust them into a relegation battle in the 2011/12 season. Buoyed by the signings of Genarro Gattuso and Kyle Lafferty, Sion survived.

Chelsea

This is not the first transfer ban which Chelsea have dealt with. Back in 2009, the Blues were handed a two-window ban after they were found to have pushed then-wonderkid Gael Kakuta into terminating his contract with Lens to move to Stamford Bridge in 2007.

However, the ban did not last long. It was imposed in September, but both parties soon came to a resolution and Chelsea were cleared to sign players in January, although no signings ever materialised.

Chelsea agreed to pay Lens a total of £793,000 in compensation, and the ban was officially lifted in February. They went on to win the Premier League and the FA Cup, in what is viewed as one of the most successful seasons in club history.

Portsmouth

Disputes over earlier signings of Chelsea's Glen Johnson and Arsenal's Lassana Diarra left Portsmouth in debt to both sides in 2009, and FIFA stepped in to impose an indefinite transfer ban until all their debts were cleared.

The club ran out of money, and many players and staff did not get paid over a period of months. However, thanks to Premier League regulations, Portsmouth's share of television revenue was handed over to Chelsea and Arsenal, as well as Watford, Udinese and Lens, who were also owed money from deals. With their debts to clubs cleared, the ban was lifted in January.

However, the problems persisted, and the club eventually entered administration. They were docked nine points which sealed their inevitable relegation. They tumbled down the Football League. Currently in League One they are yet to really recover.

Barcelona

In a similar position to Chelsea's current situation, Barcelona were handed a two-window ban in 2014 after breaching rules concerning the signing of young players. However, the ban was temporarily lifted as the club lodged an appeal, and Barcelona finalised the signings of Marc-Andre ter Stegen and Luis Suarez, among others.

The appeal was eventually rejected, but Barcelona still completed the signing of Aleix Vidal and Arda Turan in the summer of 2015. However, they could not be registered to play with the team and instead were forced to spend six months on the sidelines until the ban was lifted.

The ban did not impact their success on the field, as Barcelona won La Liga in both 2015 and 2016.

Real Madrid

In January 2016, Real Madrid were found guilty of breaching international regulations concerning young players, and were handed an initial two-window ban which was set to commence in the summer. However, they launched an appeal and were free to sign players in the summer as the case was debated.

Los Blancos finalised the signing of Alvaro Morata, and their appeal was later granted as the ban was reduced to just the winter window of 2017.

Perhaps spurred on by the drama, Real enjoyed one of the most dominant seasons in European history in 2017, winning both La Liga and the Champions League. They succeeded in retaining the Champions League in the following season, proving the ban did not impact them too heavily.

Atletico Madrid

Alongside Real, Atletico Madrid were handed the same ban in 2016. Dealings from as far back as 2007 were investigated, and Atletico were subsequently prohibited from signing players for two transfer windows.

However, unlike their rivals, Atletico's ban was upheld, and the club were forced to sit out for one window longer than Real.

The main good news from the ban came in the form of Antoine Griezmann, who ended months of rumours of an imminent move to Barcelona by signing a new contract, insisting he could not leave the club in such a dire situation. Chelsea fans will certainly be hoping that Eden Hazard does the same.

 

 

PSG and Shitty are still under the possible cosh from UEFA for FFP violations

those are much more common

 

I know of no other big clubs fully charged by FIFA for underage signings until us and Shitty since those listed

we got smashed

they walked

its a corrupt as fuck system

 

 

 

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Thanks for this @Vesper - so by the looks of things City are the first team in this circumstance to avoid a ban?

I can understand differing punishments for more and less severe cases but if FIFA have historically always dished out some form of transfer ban (even if it was for one window as opposed to two) then it shows an incredibly unjust ruling. Whether it's one player or a hundred, the crime has still been committed.

 

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