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closed Crystal Palace 2-1 Chelsea

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Man of the Match   13 members have voted

  1. 1. Who is your Man of the Match?

    • Courtois
      0
    • Moses
      0
    • Azpilicueta
      0
    • Luiz
      0
    • Cahill
      0
    • Alonso
      0
    • Fabregas
      3
    • Bakayoko
      6
    • Willian
      0
    • Hazard
      0
    • Batshuayi
      0
    • Pedro (sub)
      0
    • Musonda (sub)
      1
    • Zappacosta (sub)
      3

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2 hours ago, AChes1ofus said:

Errrrrr we're already out the top 4 bud, overtaken by the mighty Watford.

And we've got them Saturday.

I meant, REALLY OUT of top 4, for long term, and being in the danger of finishing the league out of top 4.

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4 hours ago, El P. said:

I meant, REALLY OUT of top 4, for long term, and being in the danger of finishing the league out of top 4.

Yep totally agree with that.

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Just realized earlier that we have actually lost 3 of our last 4 away games against Roy Hodgson's team

L 0-2 Liverpool

W 3-1 West Brom

L 0-1 West Brom

L 1-2 Crystal Palace

:lol::doh:

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Stayed away from this place after this shit performance as I knew people would be as annoyed as me.

Said to my lad on the morning that I worried about this game and knew fucking Zaha would score. Typical Chelsea going to a team shot of confidence but giving them injection in the arm to climb the table, total bollocks from us from start to finish.

We didn't sign another striker option in the summer and now Morata is out it's starting to bit us in the arse, and I will say it again, Batshuayi is not the answer, he's fucking rubbish.

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On 15/10/2017 at 2:18 AM, The Skipper said:

Can’t agree with this sorry. Pep is too disrespected, his idea of football is almost revolutionary. What he did at Barcelona alone was legendary. What he’s about to do at City will be as well imo. 

Imagine a talent like Hazard under Pep for example. Look at how De Bruyne is evolving into the complete playmaker under him. Conte has done ok with Hazard but he hasn’t pushed him a level above yet, like Pep has with KDB. 

His idea of football? Look at all the talent there was at Barca before he got there. They were winning before he got there too. Doesn't hurt that Messi became the world's best just as Pep was entering. 

Hazard has been great under Conte. He tied the record for most man of the matches in a season last year, did he not?

What he is about to do at City? Spend the most money and win? Do you think Conte would be incapable of that? Pep has gotten just about every player he wants, where as we can't sign Oxlade Chamberlain. 

 

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6 hours ago, Thor said:

His idea of football? Look at all the talent there was at Barca before he got there. They were winning before he got there too. Doesn't hurt that Messi became the world's best just as Pep was entering. 

Hazard has been great under Conte. He tied the record for most man of the matches in a season last year, did he not?

What he is about to do at City? Spend the most money and win? Do you think Conte would be incapable of that? Pep has gotten just about every player he wants, where as we can't sign Oxlade Chamberlain. 

That’s a not really a strong argument, it’s been proven wrong many times. The season before Pep arrived, this was their starting 11 vs. Real in 2007 (19yo Messi hattrick game):

Eto’o, Ronaldinho, Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Deco, Marquez, Thuram, Oleguer, Puyol, Valdes. Pep sold Eto’o, Ronaldinho, Deco (their three best players at the time before Messi blew up), Oleguer, Thuram and Marquez, and replaced them with the likes of Busquets, Pique, Alves, Abidal, Villa, Pedro etc. That’s over half of that 11 that got changed. They were winning before yes, but not in the manner they did when Pep was there. Pep brought in his own players and evolved the style of Barcelona into one of the best football sides in history period. Let’s also not forget that the likes of Xavi and Iniesta weren’t considered as some of the best CMs of all time either at that time. Pep’s work with them made them better players. The Barcelona side under Rijkaard were good but not that good. You’ve got to give credit where it’s due. 

Hazard has been good under Conte, not great. You and I both know his talent can bring more out of him if he played in a more progressive system. Hazard was good under Jose too, he hasn’t really surpassed that level of his best under Jose with Conte. I still believe Eden has another level to go up with his talent, if you don’t then we’ll agree to disagree.

Pep’s project at City is more about just winning, he wants to win in a very enjoyable style and he wants to change the outlook of progressive, technical football in England (i.e. usage of Juego de Posicion/Positional Play which Conte implements to a low level here at CFC too). He’s genuinely not just trying to win, it’s bigger than that.

Of course Conte’s a winner, he’s proven that his whole career pretty much, not sure why you’re asking me that. If you read the original post I replied to, I was merely trying to elaborate on Pep’s achievements in the game and why he deserves respect for it, just like Conte does for his. Just to show you Conte isn’t three times the manager Pep is. You genuinely think anyone could’ve done what Pep did at Barcelona in that manner?

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