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The Skipper

9. Álvaro Morata

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7 minutes ago, Jason said:

Oh god. We're in MARCH 2018 and people are still blaming the Costa saga on Conte?! Sure, Conte may not have handled the exit very well but how long more are people gonna pretend like Costa hadn't wanted to go back to Madrid for the past 2-3 years? Let's also ignore the fact that Costa decidedly went AWOL with his performances in the second half of last season after the interest from China.

He wanted to leave in summer, but decided to stay. And then in january 2017 he was about to extend contract, but bust with Conte turned things around with Conte demanding his sale. 

You cant possibly defend Conte here mate. 

David Luiz had one bust with Conte too and look, he doesnt get a sniff anymore.

Its clear Conte doesnt give a shit. Its cool to show authority, but managers in big clubs have to know how to deal with big egos and solve the situation with talk. Simple. 

Besides it doesnt matter whose fault it was. What matters is that people acknowledge it was extremely stupid to sell Costa and we shouldnt have done it. Now we have to get someone else in the summer. AGAIN. 

Instead of time and resources we could spend on midfield or elsewhere, we will look for another striker again. 

Because we need quality striker, because for system we play, having prolific striker is absolute priority.

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Morata has now entered a new attribute to his game.

Not enough to go down when someone say's Boo.

Can't finish with his feet.

Not enough to continually to badger the Ref for the poor treatment he gets.

So now has to get booked every time he comes on.

And his head is just not in the right place, you only need to look at his expression to see this.

Boy is this geezer is so fucking annoying.

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7 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

He wanted to leave in summer, but decided to stay. And then in january 2017 he was about to extend contract, but bust with Conte turned things around with Conte demanding his sale. 

Was about to extend his contract? What?! There were reports about the club offering him a new contract but there was nothing or anything concrete that he was going to sign it. 

7 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

You cant possibly defend Conte here mate. 

Who is? Only stating what was reported last season.

7 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

David Luiz had one bust with Conte too and look, he doesnt get a sniff anymore

So, you're just ignore the fact that Luiz has been having injury issues this season? You're also gonna ignore the fact that Christensen's performances have been keeping Luiz out as well?

7 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Its clear Conte doesnt give a shit. Its cool to show authority, but managers in big clubs have to know how to deal with big egos and solve the situation with talk. Simple. 

Conte doesn't know how to handle big egos? He may had the bust-up with Costa last season - which was caused by the interest from China and an injury - but did he toss him aside immediately? No. He still managed to keep him onside when the situation looked like threatening our title challenge. As for Luiz, well, he's had his injury problems and Christensen has been doing well overall to keep him out of the XI. 

7 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Besides it doesnt matter whose fault it was. What matters is that people acknowledge it was extremely stupid to sell Costa and we shouldnt have done it. Now we have to get someone else in the summer. AGAIN. 

Instead of time and resources we could spend on midfield or elsewhere, we will look for another striker again. 

Because we need quality striker, because for system we play, having prolific striker is absolute priority.

Selling Costa may not have been ideal but I don't think it's the main issue here. The main problem, just like with previous transfers, is that we rarely find adequate replacements for the ones we sell. Maybe Morata might still come good in the end BUT as it has been mentioned, he doesn't look like a good replacement at all despite the good start.

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34 minutes ago, Jason said:

Was about to extend his contract? What?! There were reports about the club offering him a new contract but there was nothing or anything concrete that he was going to sign it. 

Who is? Only stating what was reported last season.

So, you're just ignore the fact that Luiz has been having injury issues this season? You're also gonna ignore the fact that Christensen's performances have been keeping Luiz out as well?

Conte doesn't know how to handle big egos? He may had the bust-up with Costa last season - which was caused by the interest from China and an injury - but did he toss him aside immediately? No. He still managed to keep him onside when the situation looked like threatening our title challenge. As for Luiz, well, he's had his injury problems and Christensen has been doing well overall to keep him out of the XI. 

Selling Costa may not have been ideal but I don't think it's the main issue here. The main problem, just like with previous transfers, is that we rarely find adequate replacements for the ones we sell. Maybe Morata might still come good in the end BUT as it has been mentioned, he doesn't look like a good replacement at all despite the good start.

This. I am tired of defending Conte on Costa saga. If a player want to leave and there is a interest from the other party and the price make sense, you sell him. 

People complained about Luiz at the same time complainining about how the young player in Chelsea is not given a chance. The fact that Christensen have been playing quite well so far does not mean anything 

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20 hours ago, Laylabelle said:

And there is a reason for that it seems.. We didn't buy quality.. Unfortunately 

Hopefully he can turn it round... Others have but duno.  That arsenal game summed it up really. 

For me, I will judge Morata next season. His game is not suited to EPL at all, he lack physicality to play as target man in EPL. 

It is harder to find quality if you don't want to pay, plus it is hard to find player that suit Conte system. I wish that he can be more flexible. Having said that most of successful manager tend to play specific way. 

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52 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

I can't watch this bloke right now, possibly the most frustrating player I have seen for years, I actually have no idea what he's good at.

Seems decent at getting yellow cards I'll tell you that..

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22 hours ago, communicate said:

For me, I will judge Morata next season. His game is not suited to EPL at all, he lack physicality to play as target man in EPL. 

It's not the physicality he's lacking, it's the mentality, he could stay on the feet instead of falling down, could fight for the ball whenever he wants, he doesn't lack muscule, he just doesn't wanna use it in playing, he's more interested in fighting around getting yellows. We had many bad strikers, but atleast no one was as annoying to watch as he is.

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On 12/03/2018 at 10:16 AM, BlueLyon said:

On the flip side this is karma at its best and if I wasnt Chelsea fan, I would laugh so hard.

Fans wanted Costa to fuck off and literaly shown no respect in summer. 

And they wanted someone "nicer" on the pitch, because Costa was apparently  all about cards and more of a trouble than good for this team. 

Now we are stuck with Morata who is actualy definition what fans said about Costa in summer; getting cards for no reason, doesnt help the team, doesnt give shit. 

Karma. 

I told you Costa was fucking doctor for anyone we could get and he actualy liked playing for club despite antics in past. 

The situation was on Conte to blame, much like now with Luiz. 

Selling a cunt is never a bad thing to do, the only thing that went bad is that we bought a bigger one, but that doesn't change the fact that Costa was annoying to watch and I'd still rather have any half decent striker who is actually interested in football, than the pricks that are Morata and Costa

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35 minutes ago, cfcs most wanted said:

Selling a cunt is never a bad thing to do, the only thing that went bad is that we bought a bigger one, but that doesn't change the fact that Costa was annoying to watch and I'd still rather have any half decent striker who is actually interested in football, than the pricks that are Morata and Costa

Costa was the 2nd best Striker in the league though, and his heroics last season are a MAJOR reason why we won the league.

 

You have to be able to tolerate the eccentricities of the best players. Selling him to replace with a guy on the level of Morata was a huge downgrade.

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The man who replace Costa, the man who many people said was better than Costa, the man who is Chelsea most expensive player ever. This man can'r even start games. 

Geez, Morata represents everything wrong with this club at the moment. Average players, average managers. Average people everywhere. 

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On 3/13/2018 at 8:42 AM, cfcs most wanted said:

Selling a cunt is never a bad thing to do, the only thing that went bad is that we bought a bigger one, but that doesn't change the fact that Costa was annoying to watch and I'd still rather have any half decent striker who is actually interested in football, than the pricks that are Morata and Costa

As much as I support Conte...it is the manager's job to turn players head and bring them back to the fold.

 

Imagine if Scolari had ended up removing Drogba for not getting along with him...you don't give up players like that on a whim.

 

The same (albeit to a lesser extent) to Matic as well. We gave him up without being sure if his replacement was up to the task.

 

The Barcelona game and our entire season is an symptom of us shooting ourselves in the foot.

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Dropped from the Spain squad...for Costa:lol:

 

Wonder if he makes it this summer.

 

He certainly doesnt belong there right now over the likes of Costa,Aspas, or even Rodrigo.

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1 hour ago, Sir Mikel OBE said:

Dropped from the Spain squad...for Costa:lol:

 

Wonder if he makes it this summer.

 

He certainly doesnt belong there right now over the likes of Costa,Aspas, or even Rodrigo.

Well, let's see that gives him a reality check. If he wants to play at the World Cup, then he better start performing again!

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9 minutes ago, Jason said:

Well, let's see that gives him a reality check. If he wants to play at the World Cup, then he better start performing again!

Let's not pretend that he forgot that the World Cup is happening this year. He knew, and what we have seen so far is all he can give.

Missing the upcoming friendlies won't change that.

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18 minutes ago, Mana said:

Let's not pretend that he forgot that the World Cup is happening this year. He knew, and what we have seen so far is all he can give.

Missing the upcoming friendlies won't change that.

Maybe he thought he's untouchable in the squad. Who knows? Regardless of what you think about his quality, we all know that the last few months haven't been good enough and he needs to buck up his ideas fast! The last 2 1/2 months of the season is his last chance saloon to book his spot in the Spain squad. 

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Just now, Jason said:

Maybe he thought he's untouchable in the squad. Who knows? Regardless of what you think about his quality, we all know that the last few months haven't been good enough and he needs to buck up his ideas fast! The last 2 1/2 months of the season is his last chance saloon to book his spot in the Spain squad. 

He's not even untouchable at Chelsea.

There are other on-form strikers that we knew for quite a while including Costa. Trust me, what we saw so far from him is all he got.

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Just now, Mana said:

He's not even untouchable at Chelsea.

Only until the last few months! He was pretty much selected most of the time for Spain before he went downhill this year.

1 minute ago, Mana said:

There are other on-form strikers that we knew for quite a while including Costa. Trust me, what we saw so far from him is all he got.

Did Morata do something bad to you? Maybe you might be right but you seem hell bent on playing him down at every opportunity.

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