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29. Álvaro Morata

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14 minutes ago, Tomo said:

Not even close, i think some of you are forgetting just how bad Torres was!!!

I don't think he's much different to Torres in terms of performances and production for the team. To be honest there's quite a few similarities in both with regards to style, attitude, etc.

The biggest problem with Torres was that the money paid for him at the time was huge and once Drogba left, we were in a position where we had no other option but to play him.

At least with Morata he's proven to be dispensable and droppable, and for that reason I think it doesn't become quite as infuriating. To be honest I think he's a pretty good option to have as part of a striking group and I think he would thrive far more being under the radar as opposed to the main man, the pressure which he clearly struggles with.

The fact still remains though that a top striker that will score us 20+ a season is the biggest need at the moment.

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26 minutes ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I don't think he's much different to Torres in terms of performances and production for the team. To be honest there's quite a few similarities in both with regards to style, attitude, etc.

The biggest problem with Torres was that the money paid for him at the time was huge and once Drogba left, we were in a position where we had no other option but to play him.

At least with Morata he's proven to be dispensable and droppable, and for that reason I think it doesn't become quite as infuriating. To be honest I think he's a pretty good option to have as part of a striking group and I think he would thrive far more being under the radar as opposed to the main man, the pressure which he clearly struggles with.

The fact still remains though that a top striker that will score us 20+ a season is the biggest need at the moment.

As strange as this sounds his missed chances is the one reason i haven't totally given up on Morata yet, to constantly get into those positions is a skill in itself and that's why i simply cannot put him on the same level as Torres, El Nino just stood static most of the time and we were basically playing with ten men and a stranger up top doing his own thing. 

How many times on average in say 5 games did Torres get a genuine chance of a goal? 3 maybe 4 at most, Morata beats that number in 20 minutes vs PAOK alone. As much as Morata frustrates me he doesn't come close to Torres in shitness in my opinion.

As far as the bolded line goes, this might prove to be an unpopular opinion but we really missed a trick not going for Lacazette.

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1 hour ago, Tomo said:

As strange as this sounds his missed chances is the one reason i haven't totally given up on Morata yet, to constantly get into those positions is a skill in itself and that's why i simply cannot put him on the same level as Torres, El Nino just stood static most of the time and we were basically playing with ten men and a stranger up top doing his own thing. 

How many times on average in say 5 games did Torres get a genuine chance of a goal? 3 maybe 4 at most, Morata beats that number in 20 minutes vs PAOK alone. As much as Morata frustrates me he doesn't come close to Torres in shitness in my opinion.

As far as the bolded line goes, this might prove to be an unpopular opinion but we really missed a trick not going for Lacazette.

Yeah I remember people having similar frustrations with Cavani, he used to miss a lot of chances 

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4 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

I don't think he's much different to Torres in terms of performances and production for the team. To be honest there's quite a few similarities in both with regards to style, attitude, etc.

The biggest problem with Torres was that the money paid for him at the time was huge and once Drogba left, we were in a position where we had no other option but to play him.

At least with Morata he's proven to be dispensable and droppable, and for that reason I think it doesn't become quite as infuriating. To be honest I think he's a pretty good option to have as part of a striking group and I think he would thrive far more being under the radar as opposed to the main man, the pressure which he clearly struggles with.

The fact still remains though that a top striker that will score us 20+ a season is the biggest need at the moment.

Agree to this. I think there are a lot of similarities to their moaning attitudes and general petulance but Morata does seem more mobile and better in space than Torres.

Lacazette would be ideal. Just to think that we've spent similar money on batshuayi, morata and giroud to what arsenal have spent on lacazette and aubameyang is pretty poor.

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3 hours ago, Superblue_1986 said:

Agree to this. I think there are a lot of similarities to their moaning attitudes and general petulance but Morata does seem more mobile and better in space than Torres.

Lacazette would be ideal. Just to think that we've spent similar money on batshuayi, morata and giroud to what arsenal have spent on lacazette and aubameyang is pretty poor.

I think our system makes it harder for Strikers to thrive in general. We dont really create a lot of chances for the strikers. Our chance creation usually fall to the wide players and midfielders. The strikers feed from scraps. 

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Icardi happy at Inter, wants contract renewal

https://www.goal.com/en/news/icardi-happy-at-inter-wants-contract-renewal/c5nwmc7ceo5x1oiq0oc1i3x6

Inter captain Mauro Icardi is happy to stay with the Serie A giants and is close to signing a new deal despite interest from elsewhere.

Icardi, 25, has been one of Serie A's most prolific scorers in recent years, having scored at least 20 league goals in three of the previous four seasons.

He is off to a solid start again this year, with three goals in Serie A and a pair in the Champions League, including the winner for Inter against PSV earlier this month.

That output has led to speculation over his future, with reports linking him to Real Madrid in the past and, more recently, Chelsea.

Icardi reportedly has a €110 million (£97m/$126m) release clause valid for foreign clubs, further clouding his outlook.

However, the Argentina international has now revealed his happiness with Inter, admitting he has had interest from other sides, but his desire to play in the Champions League with the club he joined in 2013 convinced him to remain.

"I'm happy to stay here," Icardi, who's current deal expires in 2021, told Sky Italia.

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I am leaning towards starting Morata tomorrow, Giroud is a much better impact sub than starter imo. Having Morata run the channels will trouble Man Utd unlike having an immobile Giroud up top. 

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On 10/17/2018 at 10:41 AM, Superblue_1986 said:

Agree to this. I think there are a lot of similarities to their moaning attitudes and general petulance but Morata does seem more mobile and better in space than Torres.

Lacazette would be ideal. Just to think that we've spent similar money on batshuayi, morata and giroud to what arsenal have spent on lacazette and aubameyang is pretty poor.

Heh Torres had no pace left when he joined us. Every time he started to show something of his former self, he'd pick up one of his niggling injuries and turn into a snail.

Morata is all pace, good runs, link up play, and poor finishing. He's really good in the air - better than Torres ever was. The most important difference is that Morata can be sold.

It's funny how perceptions go, I think aubameyang and Lacazette are essentially at the same level of Morata: good players, not great players.

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37 minutes ago, Laylabelle said:

Time to call it a day. Nothing has changed and nothing will. Odd goal here and then doesnt change anything. 

The white lukaku who can't even finish. All he does is lose the ball. Send him off to Italy in Jan and cut loses.

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1 minute ago, Despiadado.Maleante said:

The white lukaku who can't even finish. All he does is lose the ball. Send him off to Italy in Jan and cut loses.

I think this is being disrespectful to Lukaku who is twice the player Morata is. Where is barbara who had a love-in with Morata and was hyping him up like he was prime Raul?

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I think that should settle it. Not gonna improve. And even if he were to go on a purple patch like in his first 10 league games here we knew his confidence would just drop when it matters and he would let us down. Just like Torres, every ball into him is a turnover. 

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On 7/22/2017 at 2:10 AM, Pizy said:

Here to post on the 1st page so that I can hopefully look back in 5 years time after he's scored 100 goals and remember this day. :P

sorry about this mate, but i have to laugh right now. Cheers

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Can't trust him cause what he does leads to nothing. It's a shame.. A expensive shame but he isn't going to improve. Never will become who he was going to so might as well cut losses now and he'll go off and probably be amazing. 

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5 hours ago, Magic Lamps said:

I think that should settle it. Not gonna improve. And even if he were to go on a purple patch like in his first 10 league games here we knew his confidence would just drop when it matters and he would let us down. Just like Torres, every ball into him is a turnover. 

That is the main problem. He has no first touch, he cant finish chances, he cant hold up play so that Chelsea can sustain attacks in the danger area. Falling like a baby every goddamn time, He's such a liability, its unreal.

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