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3 Simple reasons youth don't make it here

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1. Chelsea have always decided to spend big on back up positions. We spent big on postitions like #2 striker when our system only required 1 striker. In a year we only had EPL to worry about. 

2. They are not good enough. I've yet to see any of our youth go on to be anything special. 

3. We have too many top talent. You don't get better by beating everyone 5-0 because your team is staked with youth players that are clearly better than everyone else. So our youth players stagnate when they come here. 

 

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Should we sack our manager so we can have one that lets youth play..

We would win much less, is that ok ?

 

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England is the biggest issue, the step from first team Chelsea and the reserves/development squad is immense. This is not only a Chelsea problem but England in general, it shows really if you look at low amount young talent that is produced in the PL and the England NT. 

Unless England changes its leagues setup everything else is secondary. 

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How many manager won multiple  major trophies by building team mostly from youth? SAF n Arsene, two managers who cannot get fired even when they fail during a season.

We are a team who try to compete for thophy every year, the moment you fail, you are gone, I don't see any reason for a Manager to build around youth. 

I don't think Rashford will be this known if not because of LVG, he will never play if Mou was United manager since the beginning but you see LVG is gone.

Pochetino build his spurs by playing youth,  but spurs hasn't won anything in 3 years, imagine that with Chelsea. 

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As always this is a multi level question.

Yes it is true that young players have a very difficult route into our first team. But that is true for pretty much every team. We have a high level of expectation because our academy is talked about a lot and it is very successful but the fact is the route is hard.

There is no real competitive bridge from U18's to first team. If you look at the article on the CFC website from Neil Bath at the moment he is saying exactly this and more players will start going out on loan to get professional football experience at a younger age. Our academy is always evolving and learning from past experiences and they should be applauded for that. Bath stated that a player needs to have played at least 200 first team games "somewhere" before they can really be expected to make it in Chelsea's first team.

Tammy Abraham would be the example of this new process in action he is only 19 years old and he has spent a season on loan in the Championship and is now getting a loan in the Premier League. 2 Successful years of Premier League loans and he could be ready for the first team. This is the type of route you are going to see our young players take in the future and they are still going to need to be exceptional to make that route and compete at the highest level. We will see our most loans out to Premier League clubs this year and that is a good thing.

We will also see more of us selling off young players with buy back options. The thing is players like Ake and Chalobah are good enough and want to be playing first team Premier League football, have had plenty of loans already and naturally aree not ready for a regular first team starting space. We may find that this option is a cheaper option of letter our young players we have developed go out and learn for real and come back if they make the grade.

Basically what I am saying is this is far from a straight forward process and we are seeing Chelsea evolve their way of allowing our players to develop. It is sad to see Chalobah and Ake depart but if they now progress quickly with their experience we can benefit from that down the line and they would not develop in the same way with us and limited game time.

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On 7/4/2017 at 8:49 AM, Chelsea? said:

1. Chelsea have always decided to spend big on back up positions. We spent big on postitions like #2 striker when our system only required 1 striker. In a year we only had EPL to worry about. 

2. They are not good enough. I've yet to see any of our youth go on to be anything special. 

3. We have too many top talent. You don't get better by beating everyone 5-0 because your team is staked with youth players that are clearly better than everyone else. So our youth players stagnate when they come here. 

 

Youth needs the right kind of development so that they can turn into something of a value for us. We wont get wonderkids by loaning them out to lower division teams. If we want them to play in PL/CL level then we need to train/develop them in that direction.

It is a lost cause to have any expectation that someone from the academy would make it to starting 11.

 

 

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You can go on about the rights and wrongs of our youth system, but to get 20 million pound for someone who's not played a full season in the Premier league (granted he would have if he stayed at Bournemouth) is great business. Harry Kane went on loan to Norwich, Leicester and Millwall and was pretty ordinary Spurs took a chance and it worked out. I'm struggling to find someone from our youth set up who's had a solid career after leaving us apart from Bertrand. Surely it can't be solely Chelsea's fault they haven't achieved greater things.

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The reason is they are not good enough, if they are good enough they will play. 

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Chelsea simply don't want to go through the process of enduring a few years of mediocrity from those players, because they would need significant game time to progress, which means we would risk sacrificing success and revenue as a consequence. And in the end there is no guarantee that they would turn out any better, so the danger of going down the Arsenal route always looms. Instead we send them out on loan with the hope that they turn into above average players who fit our system, it just happens so that nobody has progressed well enough to fit the system and the manager's needs at that period of time when they were in their "breakthrough age". And none of the players we have hyped over the years have achieved anything noteworthy, actually the majority of them have had underwhelming careers and it's not all down to Chelsea, in fact we offer them a great platform for exposure. Some of them could have become useful squad players, sure, but by that time they had been already sold and we bought ready-made players from other leagues. In short, we are willingly not patient in dealing with the period between a scrub evolving into a player who can contribute to success.

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