test

Welcome to Talk Chelsea

Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to contribute to this site by submitting your own content or replying to existing content. You'll be able to customize your profile, receive reputation points as a reward for submitting content, while also communicating with other members via your own private inbox, plus much more! This message will be removed once you have signed in.

Captain Ahmed

Andrea Belotti

Started by Captain Ahmed,

Andrea Belotti   71 members have voted

  1. 1. According to you,Andrea Belotti to Chelsea? For or against that

    • Yes, I am for that
    • No,I am against that

Please sign in or register to vote in this poll.

353 posts in this topic

Love the look of this guy, seems hungry and aggressive when the chances come. I think he could link up well with players like Cesc.  Seems like a Conte type striker for me.

Beigl and 1chelsea like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just to add a few things to his history. 

He played as an 18-year old in Serie B for AlbinoLeffe where he scored 2 goals in 8 appearances (also scoring 13 goals for the youth team). 
The 2012-13 season he was in the third division, where he scored 12 goals in 31 appearances (unclear how often as a sub).
He then scored 10 goals for Palermo in Serie B having been purchased by them. He scored 6 goals the following season in Serie A in 38 appearances (almost all of them as a late sub). 

Torino then bought him, and for the first half of the 15-16 season he only scored one goal. It is important to note that he was bought very late, and therefore had no pre-season with the team. Furthermore, he was either subbed off around the 60 min mark, or subbed on even later very often during this period. For the second half though he scored 11 goals seeing more game time. 
During the 16-17 season he scored 28 goals in all competitions for Torino, plus 3 I think for the national team, totalling 31 goals. 

He isnt one of those players that was a prodigy as an 18-year old, but one that has taken step by step over the years in his development. His profile is not flashy at all, but he does appear to be hard-working and ambitious.  

El P., Leif, 1chelsea and 1 other like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think this guy is more consistent Diego Costa with better behavior. Really the similar type of player. A better in the air too. Also, it's a great plus that he is Italian, because of Conte.

My first name on strikers wishlist, would take him for <70 millions pounds.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Special Juan said:

There isn't quality of stock available in strikers for us to be able to dictate, the dictating comes from the selling club.

we all know this seems like the board doesn't wasting time with their 35m offers 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
7 minutes ago, El P. said:

 

My first name on strikers wishlist, would take him for <70 millions pounds.

His buy out clause is 88m but.. I dunno if that is € or £ 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

well the board has messed up so now two choices they have to overpay to get a striker or look for a new manager while having the fans turn on them for chasing away a title winning manager 

Chelsea? likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If we don't go for him, who's left?  

There are only a handful of really great No.9 out there and most of them are already established at a big club.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
21 minutes ago, Sideshow Luiz said:

If we don't go for him, who's left?  

 

Aubameyang and morata icardi 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

He is the only CF we should be going for now. Ticks all the boxes we need from someone to lead our line.

yuvala and the wes like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

This is so comical.

We lose out on Lukaku so now a player we've been erroneously linked to is the target? And if 75M was too much to pay for a HG, premier league proven, chelsea supporter then how much is too much for a one season dynamo with a €100m release clause?

Lukaku, whether you like him or not, is a commodity that is known his flaws and strengths are well documented. Belotti has a really small sample size and the risk of him being a catastrophe is greater than Lukaku's

Still I like Belotti I just hate that we allowed Utd to pip in ahead of us regardless of who are target is. This will make negotiations so much harder now because we are desperate, Costa out the door, Lukaku off the market leaving Belotti and Morata.... lol

fun times ahead fellas

oldportblue likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Belotti is my #1 guy, has been for a long long time but i get the feeling we will end up with Morata. Just a gut feeling. I prefer Belotti which is well known but Morata is unsettled, worked with Conte, and is negotiable on price (Belotti has the 86m Sterling release though)

Tautvix, Fernando and Beigl like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, Miguelito said:

I personally feel that some people are overrated certain aspects of Belotti's game.  I say that even though he would be my number one target.  My order would be 1) Belotti, 2) Morata, 3) Lukaku (Mbappe is a dream, but impossible.  I would pay stupid money for him).  I think that lukaku has the biggest deficiencies of the three.  He will do well and score lots wherever he goes, but he isn't the type of striker to take your team to the next level.  When he is at his absolute best, he can be almost unplayable and arguably the best of the 3, but there's so much lacking that stops that from happening.  Since this is the Belotti thread, I won't go further than that though.  On to Belotti.

I think he is brilliant.  He does have that costa/tevez type of fight and determination (without the massive negatives of costa).  This type of willpower really does have an effect on the team.  It wears the defense down, but it also gives a lift to the team.  Teammates cling to that and it is contagious.  It's that little bit of scruffiness and fight that pushes a team over the line when they are having an off day.  He presses brilliantly and willfully (vital in our system).  

He drives the team forward (as his coach or president of torino, forget which one, said).  His runs stretch the defense and allow other attacking players to get in to the mix.  When he gets the ball deep, his first thought is to go straight forward.  One track mind at time it seems, and that is something I value in a striker.  He is a surprisingly good dribbler in space and when he is at speed.  It's hard to stop him once he starts going.  So when he gets it deep, he drives the whole team forward quickly and effectively.  More on other type of dribbling later on.  

He is excellent in the air. Again, it has a lot to do with his sheer determination to get to the ball first.  He knows how to position himself well for crosses (if we end up with him and sandro, it will quite the partnership).  

He is pretty good at holding play up.  He is physical and strong, and holds the ball well enough to left his teammates get there.  When he releases the ball, he is immediately making a run forward and making himself available.  He struggles getting the ball away from his feet some though.  

Areas I think he is lacking and overrated by a few: I think his overall technical quality is not near as good as many make it out to.  Yes, it is better than both lukaku and costa, but it's not top level.  In his highlight videos, it looks good, but when you watch full games or all his touches in a game, you see it is lacking.  His passes are often hit too hard, he doesn't quite have that touch.  His first touch is okay, but not excellent, theres a few times most games where it's just too heavy.  Along the same lines, he is not that good at dribbling in spaces that are tighter.  When he is at pace, he is very good though.

As I said, he is my first choice and I rate him very highly.  He does come with his flaws though.  He is decent enough technically that it does not negatively effect the overall team play as I see lukaku's doing.  He is the type that will always make a difference on the game whether he is scoring or not (another thing I think lukaku lacks).  

I fully agree with you. His first touch and technique are far from perfect. I consider them a bit above Costa and Lukaku, but they would in no way be considered his main strengths. The same applies to both spotting the pass, and executing it. 
I do however feel like Belotti can still improve in this aspect, he seems to me like a player that is still improving every season in some aspects. Put him under a good coach that works in his weaknesses and he can become world class. 

Miguelito and RoyalBlues like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
I fully agree with you. His first touch and technique are far from perfect. I consider them a bit above Costa and Lukaku, but they would in no way be considered his main strengths. The same applies to both spotting the pass, and executing it. 
I do however feel like Belotti can still improve in this aspect, he seems to me like a player that is still improving every season in some aspects. Put him under a good coach that works in his weaknesses and he can become world class. 


Agreed on most of that. I do think he will become world class. Technical quality is something that usually only improves so much. I agree it will improve, but there's only so much it can. It is something that you are naturally have.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Think he'll be the next Real Madrid target a year from now if he doesn't move this summer and has another season like last. For that reason it's probably now or never for us.

The reason I'd prefer him to Morata is because of his tenacity. Almost Costa like without the dirty side of it.

Look at this, for example:

The sort of player that will thrive in the PL.

akgw13 and !Hazard! like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
22 minutes ago, Miguelito said:

I personally feel that some people are overrated certain aspects of Belotti's game.  I say that even though he would be my number one target.  My order would be 1) Belotti, 2) Morata, 3) Lukaku (Mbappe is a dream, but impossible.  I would pay stupid money for him).  I think that lukaku has the biggest deficiencies of the three.  He will do well and score lots wherever he goes, but he isn't the type of striker to take your team to the next level.  When he is at his absolute best, he can be almost unplayable and arguably the best of the 3, but there's so much lacking that stops that from happening.  Since this is the Belotti thread, I won't go further than that though.  On to Belotti.

I think he is brilliant.  He does have that costa/tevez type of fight and determination (without the massive negatives of costa).  This type of willpower really does have an effect on the team.  It wears the defense down, but it also gives a lift to the team.  Teammates cling to that and it is contagious.  It's that little bit of scruffiness and fight that pushes a team over the line when they are having an off day.  He presses brilliantly and willfully (vital in our system).  

He drives the team forward (as his coach or president of torino, forget which one, said).  His runs stretch the defense and allow other attacking players to get in to the mix.  When he gets the ball deep, his first thought is to go straight forward.  One track mind at time it seems, and that is something I value in a striker.  He is a surprisingly good dribbler in space and when he is at speed.  It's hard to stop him once he starts going.  So when he gets it deep, he drives the whole team forward quickly and effectively.  More on other type of dribbling later on.  

He is excellent in the air. Again, it has a lot to do with his sheer determination to get to the ball first.  He knows how to position himself well for crosses (if we end up with him and sandro, it will quite the partnership).  

He is pretty good at holding play up.  He is physical and strong, and holds the ball well enough to left his teammates get there.  When he releases the ball, he is immediately making a run forward and making himself available.  He struggles getting the ball away from his feet some though.  

Areas I think he is lacking and overrated by a few: I think his overall technical quality is not near as good as many make it out to.  Yes, it is better than both lukaku and costa, but it's not top level.  In his highlight videos, it looks good, but when you watch full games or all his touches in a game, you see it is lacking.  His passes are often hit too hard, he doesn't quite have that touch.  His first touch is okay, but not excellent, theres a few times most games where it's just too heavy.  Along the same lines, he is not that good at dribbling in spaces that are tighter.  When he is at pace, he is very good though.

As I said, he is my first choice and I rate him very highly.  He does come with his flaws though.  He is decent enough technically that it does not negatively effect the overall team play as I see lukaku's doing.  He is the type that will always make a difference on the game whether he is scoring or not (another thing I think lukaku lacks).  

I agree completely with your review of the player. The thing that i love is how hard he goes after the ball while heading it, I love watching Vidal and he just absolutely throws himself at the ball with complete disregard for injury or well being. I see the same thing with Belotti and I just love that mentality, especially from a striker. In the FourFourTwo article about him the quote i love is:

“My father told me: 'If you don’t leave the pitch absolutely exhausted, it means you haven’t given it your all,'” he told La Gazzetta dello Sport. “I like to work hard.”
 

Every player has their shortcomings but this is a guy I want to succeed, hopefully with us!

kellzfresh and Miguelito like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
10 minutes ago, akgw13 said:

I agree completely with your review of the player. The thing that i love is how hard he goes after the ball while heading it, I love watching Vidal and he just absolutely throws himself at the ball with complete disregard for injury or well being. I see the same thing with Belotti and I just love that mentality, especially from a striker. In the FourFourTwo article about him the quote i love is:

“My father told me: 'If you don’t leave the pitch absolutely exhausted, it means you haven’t given it your all,'” he told La Gazzetta dello Sport. “I like to work hard.”
 

Every player has their shortcomings but this is a guy I want to succeed, hopefully with us!

The conte way...

RoyalBlues likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Can't pretend I've watched him as much as the likes of Lukaku or Morata but seen a few games last year and watched a 15 minute compilation video of his season. Granted youtube can make Heskey look like Messi but I still liked what I saw, seems exactly the type of player I'd want to lead the line and his statistics look good too. Reminds me a little bit of Costa but without all the thuggish characteristics.

Only question mark is the price. Only had one breakthrough season with asking price now set for £87M and they won't budge. Massive risk, massive reward type of transfer. 

Miguelito, kellzfresh and !Hazard! like this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.