The Conte Thread

[Barbara 15,149]

You can't blame him. How can you be a top manager at a top club when the club won't back your judgement in the transfer market, and instead identify their own targets and force you to work with them? He'll be gone, and Ancelotti will come back as Roman's yes-man, win us a PL title but fail to do anything in Europe, and then Hiddink will come back for round 3. 

I could bet body parts if Carlo ever wins a premier League title with this lot of players... Sorry, he wouldn't get us in UCL

[Pizy 17,860]

Yeah, it's a no for me to bringing Carlo back as well. We need to find our Pochenttino. Someone who thinks long term and can build something with the thought already in their head that we can't competen financially with the Manc clubs. We'll have to win with our tactics and coachin rather than with financial muscle going forward. 

We're a tier 2 club like Arsenal, Spuds, Liverpool etc now. Can't compete directly with United, City, PSG, Barca, Real Madird.

[Tomo 21,681]

9 minutes ago, Ayioros said:

Embarassing comment really....

Do you really think Zappa, Alonso or Palmieri are first Conte choice ?

Same for Carroll or Dzeko ?

You can be sur Conte want top players, it's the reason why he left Juventus some years ago.

And it's the reason of his frustration now.

 

But if the board tell him you have just a low budget to recruit then he gives average player, because average players it's always better than no players at all.

That's no meaning that he is happy with that.

Maybe ZappaCosta was the 15 choice on his whish list.

And for some who says "Yes but board has spend 220 millions for Conte".

It's true but seriously when you count the income players, you have to count depart players and check the balance !

This year we spend 220 millions but we receive 200 millions for our departing players.

So what ? Conte should say "Thanks Chelsea Board, one of the biggest club in the world, to spend 20 millions for me on his window !"

And the funniest, here is a view of our balance transfert since 14/15 at now :

#	Club(s)		Expenditures	Arrivals	Income	Departures	Balance
1		Manchester City	761,00 Mill. €	101	227,76 Mill. €	100	-533,23 Mill. €
2		Manchester United	740,75 Mill. €	71	250,01 Mill. €	77	-490,74 Mill. €
3		Everton FC	377,94 Mill. €	86	197,98 Mill. €	74	-179,96 Mill. €
4		Arsenal FC	347,62 Mill. €	59	185,85 Mill. €	60	-161,77 Mill. €
5		Crystal Palace	200,78 Mill. €	98	61,47 Mill. €	110	-139,31 Mill. €
6		Watford FC	223,98 Mill. €	126	84,90 Mill. €	121	-139,08 Mill. €
7		Leicester City	252,23 Mill. €	80	122,40 Mill. €	84	-129,83 Mill. €
8		West Ham United	216,75 Mill. €	80	94,57 Mill. €	85	-122,19 Mill. €
9		West Bromwich Albion	156,38 Mill. €	58	44,25 Mill. €	62	-112,14 Mill. €
10		Newcastle United	259,33 Mill. €	95	148,49 Mill. €	100	-110,84 Mill. €
11		AFC Bournemouth	134,92 Mill. €	87	29,84 Mill. €	91	-105,08 Mill. €
12		Liverpool FC	524,53 Mill. €	76	440,72 Mill. €	74	-83,81 Mill. €
13		Brighton & Hove Albion	90,60 Mill. €	110	13,24 Mill. €	105	-77,37 Mill. €
14		Middlesbrough FC	149,31 Mill. €	104	74,68 Mill. €	115	-74,64 Mill. €
15		Stoke City	135,20 Mill. €	66	65,94 Mill. €	70	-69,26 Mill. €
16		Sunderland AFC	131,97 Mill. €	90	73,16 Mill. €	100	-58,81 Mill. €
17		Burnley FC	117,97 Mill. €	85	71,90 Mill. €	86	-46,07 Mill. €
18		Huddersfield Town	62,31 Mill. €	103	21,56 Mill. €	109	-40,75 Mill. €
19		Chelsea FC	577,80 Mill. €	151	537,34 Mill. €	144	-40,46 Mill. €

Yeah we are 19th of this fucking list. Yes we have just spend 40 millions in 4 years...

 

But yeah continue to blame Conte because you are too dumb to see the reality.

When I Was d, "he must respect the board". Yeah maybe, but please first of all, the board must respect the fans.

200m is a lot of money regardless of if it was made back, and furthermore Matic aside who did he want to keep that was sold? Half of the sales were loanees or squad players he never played. 

[El P. 1,354]

This platitude I'm hearing at recent times is ridiculous - CONTE'S SIGNING. My God. Imagine this:

Marina: "Hello mister Conte, we have 25 millions for a fullback"

Conte: "Oh, all right, I'll see what I can do..."

* finds Zappacosta / injured Emerson for that money *

Fans: "You stupid manager Zappacosta is YOUR SIGNING and he is sheeet!"

Conte at press: "We need to do better in transfer market..."

Fans: "OMG he always moans and gets in conflict with our board!!!"

... leave him alone, for fuck's sake.

[Ayioros 76]

16 minutes ago, Tomo said:

200m is a lot of money regardless of if it was made back, and furthermore Matic aside who did he want to keep that was sold? Half of the sales were loanees or squad players he never played. 

And what's the difference ?

We receive this money in selling players (loanees, bad, average or top players).

But the fact is we just reinvest this money for new players but not more.

The board doesn't invest money in the transferts, we are Chelsea, one of the biggest club in the world and we don't invest money.

We have the new stadium, I accept that. But it's not the only reason. Its same clear it's a new politic for long term and no just to finance the new Bridge.

As has already been said, if you want to fill this stadium, club must stay attractive, he must continue to make people dream.

If we become an average club with average players, it could be worst for our incomes

Who want experience that Liverpool experienced few years ago ?

 

When you invest money on big players (fee or wages) it's not just for sport or result. It's also an important economical invest (more marchandising etc.).

If we continue this kind of path, I really fear for the futur of the club.

[The Chels 2,502]

29 minutes ago, Ayioros said:

And the funniest, here is a view of our balance transfert since 14/15 at now :

#	Club(s)		Expenditures	Arrivals	Income	Departures	Balance
1		Manchester City	761,00 Mill. €	101	227,76 Mill. €	100	-533,23 Mill. €
2		Manchester United	740,75 Mill. €	71	250,01 Mill. €	77	-490,74 Mill. €
3		Everton FC	377,94 Mill. €	86	197,98 Mill. €	74	-179,96 Mill. €
4		Arsenal FC	347,62 Mill. €	59	185,85 Mill. €	60	-161,77 Mill. €
5		Crystal Palace	200,78 Mill. €	98	61,47 Mill. €	110	-139,31 Mill. €
6		Watford FC	223,98 Mill. €	126	84,90 Mill. €	121	-139,08 Mill. €
7		Leicester City	252,23 Mill. €	80	122,40 Mill. €	84	-129,83 Mill. €
8		West Ham United	216,75 Mill. €	80	94,57 Mill. €	85	-122,19 Mill. €
9		West Bromwich Albion	156,38 Mill. €	58	44,25 Mill. €	62	-112,14 Mill. €
10		Newcastle United	259,33 Mill. €	95	148,49 Mill. €	100	-110,84 Mill. €
11		AFC Bournemouth	134,92 Mill. €	87	29,84 Mill. €	91	-105,08 Mill. €
12		Liverpool FC	524,53 Mill. €	76	440,72 Mill. €	74	-83,81 Mill. €
13		Brighton & Hove Albion	90,60 Mill. €	110	13,24 Mill. €	105	-77,37 Mill. €
14		Middlesbrough FC	149,31 Mill. €	104	74,68 Mill. €	115	-74,64 Mill. €
15		Stoke City	135,20 Mill. €	66	65,94 Mill. €	70	-69,26 Mill. €
16		Sunderland AFC	131,97 Mill. €	90	73,16 Mill. €	100	-58,81 Mill. €
17		Burnley FC	117,97 Mill. €	85	71,90 Mill. €	86	-46,07 Mill. €
18		Huddersfield Town	62,31 Mill. €	103	21,56 Mill. €	109	-40,75 Mill. €
19		Chelsea FC	577,80 Mill. €	151	537,34 Mill. €	144	-40,46 Mill. €

Yeah we are 19th of this fucking list. Yes we have just spend 40 millions in 4 years...

 

Our expenditure has still been pretty big. Problem is we've spent it on far too many average players. The 'sell to buy' policy is crap admittedly.

[El P. 1,354]

48 minutes ago, FabHazard said:

If Conte's first choice is Harry Kane then we will never get him..Cannot blame it on board enitrely...We spent 200 million even though we sold players for the same money.....200 M is lot of money....We bought shit with that money....So much money wasted on drinkwater and bakayoko....Morata is not showing any promise...Both board and conte are at fault...Conte needs to stop moaning..Instead of taking digs at board he has to coach this team some attacking play..Board also needs to buckle up and spend money on quality players with proper scouting

200 millions? Morata alone is 70. And let's not pretend we haven't lost good player (compared with Bakayoko) in Matić, also in Diego Costa. It's not like we have spent 200 millions on IMPROVEMENTS. No. We got 100 millions for Costa+Matić and bought Morata+Bakayoko. That's not SPENDING money. That's just reinvesting what we earned of selling.

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We didn't spend shit, we have spent about 100 millions on backups, with no clear plan from the board, and certainly no plan to INVEST.

We didn't spend shit!

[Ayioros 76]

11 minutes ago, The Chels said:

Our expenditure has still been pretty big. Problem is we've spent it on far too many average players. The 'sell to buy' policy is crap admittedly.

Yeah sur, and it's a big problem.

 

Classic example, we don't want to pay 80 millions for a very good player.

But to pay 40 millions for 2 average players it's okay.

Maybe one will be just good, the other will be shit. Sometime we will have a good surprise and he will be world class.

But several times  they will be shit.

 

And like i said above, pay for the 80 million player, will give us more certitude but also more money on marchandising. It will not be the case for average players.

[Dimitr 488]

43 minutes ago, Ayioros said:

Embarassing comment really....

Do you really thing Zappa, Alonso or Palmieri are first Conte choice ?

Same for Carroll or Dzeko ?

You can be sur Conte want top players, it's the reason why he left Juventus some years ago.

And it's the reasong of his frustration now.

 

But if the board tell him you have just a low budget to recruit then he gives average player, because average players it's always better than no players at all.

That's no meaning that he is happy with that.

Maybe ZappaCosta was the 15 choice on his whish list.

And for some who says "Yes but board has spend 220 millions for Conte".

It's true but seriously when you count the income players, you have to count depart players and check the balance !

This year we spend 220 millions but we receive 200 millions for our departing players.

So what ? Conte should say "Thanks Chelsea Board, one of the biggest club in the world, to spend 20 millions for me on his window !"

And the funniest, here is a view of our balance transfert since 14/15 at now :

#	Club(s)		Expenditures	Arrivals	Income	Departures	Balance
1		Manchester City	761,00 Mill. €	101	227,76 Mill. €	100	-533,23 Mill. €
2		Manchester United	740,75 Mill. €	71	250,01 Mill. €	77	-490,74 Mill. €
3		Everton FC	377,94 Mill. €	86	197,98 Mill. €	74	-179,96 Mill. €
4		Arsenal FC	347,62 Mill. €	59	185,85 Mill. €	60	-161,77 Mill. €
5		Crystal Palace	200,78 Mill. €	98	61,47 Mill. €	110	-139,31 Mill. €
6		Watford FC	223,98 Mill. €	126	84,90 Mill. €	121	-139,08 Mill. €
7		Leicester City	252,23 Mill. €	80	122,40 Mill. €	84	-129,83 Mill. €
8		West Ham United	216,75 Mill. €	80	94,57 Mill. €	85	-122,19 Mill. €
9		West Bromwich Albion	156,38 Mill. €	58	44,25 Mill. €	62	-112,14 Mill. €
10		Newcastle United	259,33 Mill. €	95	148,49 Mill. €	100	-110,84 Mill. €
11		AFC Bournemouth	134,92 Mill. €	87	29,84 Mill. €	91	-105,08 Mill. €
12		Liverpool FC	524,53 Mill. €	76	440,72 Mill. €	74	-83,81 Mill. €
13		Brighton & Hove Albion	90,60 Mill. €	110	13,24 Mill. €	105	-77,37 Mill. €
14		Middlesbrough FC	149,31 Mill. €	104	74,68 Mill. €	115	-74,64 Mill. €
15		Stoke City	135,20 Mill. €	66	65,94 Mill. €	70	-69,26 Mill. €
16		Sunderland AFC	131,97 Mill. €	90	73,16 Mill. €	100	-58,81 Mill. €
17		Burnley FC	117,97 Mill. €	85	71,90 Mill. €	86	-46,07 Mill. €
18		Huddersfield Town	62,31 Mill. €	103	21,56 Mill. €	109	-40,75 Mill. €
19		Chelsea FC	577,80 Mill. €	151	537,34 Mill. €	144	-40,46 Mill. €

Yeah we are 19th of this fucking list. Yes we have just spend 40 millions in 5 years...

 

But yeah continue to blame Conte because you are too dumb to see the reality.

When I see, he must respect the board. Yeah maybe, but please first of all, the board must respect the fans.

Hahah you don’t understand what I am saying. I don’t care if Zappa,or Alonso were first choice or 100th choice 

all the players we tried  were from fucking Italy . And of course conte suggestions. 

 

Last summer we spend 200millions 

so stfu and think before you talk . 

CONTEOUT

[Ayioros 76]

17 minutes ago, Dimitr said:

Hahah you don’t understand what I am saying. I don’t care if Zappa,or Alonso were first choice or 100th choice 

all the players we tried  were from fucking Italy . And of course conte suggestions. 

 

Last summer we spend 200millions 

so stfu and think before you talk . 

CONTEOUT

"Think before talk" from a guy who say absolut bullshit is really funny.

Last summer we spend 220 millions on players and we receive 200 millions from departure players, so what ?

You find 20 millions it's a really biiiig investment ? Think before talk yeah ? We replace bigs players by average players but yeah we spend 200 millions oh my god...

So what, you would like Conte win 4 trophies with the players of the bottom of his list that board has aggred to give him ?

Did you see United/City's investment compared to us, and you would like we are champions each year without spend money ?

The guy just gave us a title in his first year, he give us true passion. And he probably leave in a club that will respect him and give him what he wants.

But let's go to Ancelotti, Pochetino or anybody and sack him 2 years later, because fan like you are close minded and think managers are always the problem.

 

[Special Juan 27,101]

21 minutes ago, Dimitr said:

Hahah you don’t understand what I am saying. I don’t care if Zappa,or Alonso were first choice or 100th choice 

all the players we tried  were from fucking Italy . And of course conte suggestions. 

 

Last summer we spend 200millions 

so stfu and think before you talk . 

CONTEOUT

If you continue to talk to others members like that you will be off this forum before Conte is sacked.

[Dimitr 488]

5 minutes ago, Special Juan said:

If you continue to talk to others members like that you will be off this forum before Conte is sacked.

CONTE OUT !

 

[Dimitr 488]

13 minutes ago, Ayioros said:

"Think before talk" from a guy who say absolut bullshit is really funny.

Last summer we spend 220 millions on players and we receive 200 millions from departure players, so what ?

You find 20 millions it's a really biiiig investment ? Think before talk yeah ? We replace bigs players by average players but yeah we spend 200 millions oh my god...

So what, you would like Conte win 4 trophies with the players of the bottom of his list that board has aggred to give him ?

Did you see United/City's investment compared to us, and you would like we are champions each year without spend money ?

The guy just gave us a title in his first year, he give us true passion. And he probably leave in a club that will respect him and give him what he wants.

But let's go to Ancelotti, Pochetino or anybody and sack him 2 years later, because fan like you are close minded and think managers are always the problem.

 

Chelsea board can’t sign world class players I agree. 

But I am saying that Chelsea support conte because we are interested for players from Italy . Alex Sandro (itlay ) 

koulybali , romagnoli,bonnuci, de vrij, dzeko .alonso,Palmieri. So ? 

 

 

[FabHazard 655]

43 minutes ago, El P. said:

200 millions? Morata alone is 70. And let's not pretend we haven't lost good player (compared with Bakayoko) in Matić, also in Diego Costa. It's not like we have spent 200 millions on IMPROVEMENTS. No. We got 100 millions for Costa+Matić and bought Morata+Bakayoko. That's not SPENDING money. That's just reinvesting what we earned of selling.

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We didn't spend shit, we have spent about 100 millions on backups, with no clear plan from the board, and certainly no plan to INVEST.

We didn't spend shit!

I already mentioned that in the post...Yes we sold players for same amount...What i am saying is that we should have reinvested that money on better quality players ...100 millions on the backups instead of investing on first team quality....I agree with you... there is no clear transfer strategy

[Dimitr 488]

Despite Conte continuing to give the impression he has little to do with the club's transfer dealings, Chelsea are understood to be working hard to sign the players the Italian wants. (Sky Sports) #CFC

 

haha 

im legend. Even sky sports agree with me

[Dimitr 488]

Conte is a strange man. Made Pogba, Vidal, Bonucci into what they are today. But then goes and buys Vucinic, Llorente and Osvaldo. Great coach, bad manager.

[Ayioros 76]

19 minutes ago, Dimitr said:

Chelsea board can’t sign world class players I agree. 

But I am saying that Chelsea support conte because we are interested for players from Italy . Alex Sandro (itlay ) 

koulybali , romagnoli,bonnuci, de vrij, dzeko .alonso,Palmieri. So ? 

 

 

But who cares we are "interested" in players ?

The point is the players we are signed.

No one of importants Serie A players that you quote were signed.

Just Alonso, Zappa and surely Palmieri.

No Bonnuci, no Sandro, no Koulibaly or wathever.

If we sign Dzeko it will be a good transfert, i admit that.

 

But I don't understand what you try to prove with yours posts.

If tomorrow the board sign a bench player of Crotone FC, it will mean that the board support Conte because they signed a Serie A player ?

Support Conte for me it's, do the best for signed his wish list players.

The board can't because our low budget politic. It's their choice.

So Conte accept average players so we are doing average result. We are top 4, in UCL (not for long but against Barca it's logic), in FA cup.

It's just a logical position for a club who leads this kind of politc no ?

 

Say Conte OUT what's the point ? You are really thought that we will be champion again or what ?

 

[Special Juan 27,101]

30 minutes ago, Dimitr said:

CONTE OUT !

 

Enjoy your break from the forum, see you next month. Sick and tired of your attitude and repetitive posts.

I will monitor how your posts go when you arrive back, if it continues you can have a permanent ban.