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Special Juan

The Conte Thread

Started by Special Juan,

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It's really simple tbh.

The club just needs to get rid of the shit players and the deadwood, and by those I mean Ivanovic, Cahill, Matic, Oscar and Willian. I would also name Luiz but he's here too short to re-rate him.
Iva and Cahill speaks for itself. Matic doesn't care anymore as he wanted to move to Turin last summer. Oscar... y'know I just do not understand the sudden love for that guy. He has puppy eyes but that's it. Not creative. Just runs around and that's it.

Willian... the shit from Spurs bought his plane and after all this time, they could've gotten him for me tbh. His statistics are utter shit and very VERY disappointing. Not a fan of him.

Next up, players who can BETTER leave for the clubs sake and ours (lol).
-Diego Costa, he doesn't want to be in England anymore and fucking hell can you blame him for all the shit he gets from opposing teams fans and the media? He's a great finisher but very poor in handling technique en ballholding. We got Michy, and our own Rashford: Tammy. Also, Griezmann is on our radar.
-Courtois, 'nuff said. Fuck that prick. Get Butland or another good GK.
-Hazard, to me, only plays to get in the Real Madrid spotlights. Disappeared last season. Did absolutely nothing and still expects to get chosen for the FIFA 17 cover. No Eden that's not how it works. Doesn't defend because he just doesn't care. Horrible mentality. I would get that babyface German Julian Draxler immediately if possible.

 

We just need to improve, and also: PLAY SOME YOUTH. Chalobah can be a starter easily if he gets the confidence. He and N'Golo would be a fine pair.
I mean we can buy a shit load of new players but what the hell is the point of the youth academy then????
 

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22 minutes ago, Miki-Liki said:

But that's what I said in my following post, didn't I? I was pleased with our performance against Burnley, Swansea and WHU?

Klopp arrived in mid-season, but since you've mentioned some results, in his first game avoided defeat against Tottenham, thrashed Chelsea at the Bridge, they beat Man City twice (1:4 away!), they beat the champions Leicester, they dismantled Everton at home 4:0, and had goal fests against Norwich and Arsenal. And their defense is arguably no better than ours.

If we hypothetically played our team from last season tonight, we will probably win due to the fact they are even worse, that's how Liverpool benefitted last season.

City game fair enough that one was very impressive.

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Surely I can't be the one who's dreading to see Ivanovic, Cahill, Matic and Willian in the starting line-up against Hull anyway despite the Arsenal game and Conte maybe having realised what we've been screaming our lungs out about? Right now it feels like waiting for results on a terrible disease because there's a slight chance that you may have it. If it does happen and Hull fuck us over, then it's on him really.

I'd rather, no I'm begging that he at least tries Chalobah at CB with Azpi and Alonso as FBs, RLC/Oscar for Matic and Moses for Willian. If I see Ivanovic and Cahill in the line-up I really think I'm gonna go in a state of shock.

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2 hours ago, Darogba said:

You could see the changes in Liverpool as soon as Klopp took over even when they were losing. Like I said, I don't mind us losing and I'm willing to give him time but he has to show signs that it's worth waiting and right now there's nothing. 

No there was no change. It was hot and cold. They didn't got any better till after the half of the season, but more towards the end.

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3 hours ago, Darogba said:

You could see the changes in Liverpool as soon as Klopp took over even when they were losing. Like I said, I don't mind us losing and I'm willing to give him time but he has to show signs that it's worth waiting and right now there's nothing. 

Nothing? Please explain. Were you not celebrating when he made tactical changes and we won games coming from behind? Would this have happened last season in your opinion?

The club failed in the market window, he is managing the same lot who failed miserably last season. This season is a write off, give him the players he needs and we will see more signs than "nothing".

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4 hours ago, Darogba said:

You could see the changes in Liverpool as soon as Klopp took over even when they were losing. Like I said, I don't mind us losing and I'm willing to give him time but he has to show signs that it's worth waiting and right now there's nothing. 

You haven't watched all of our games this season have you?

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i think kante shold be drooped out, he played really bad in his last 2 matches. i would start with ainaChalobah, alonso, azpi at the back with RLC and oscar as MC, as wingers with moses and hazard and costa and michy as 2 strikers side by side. i know RLC need to run more and play better that he did until now but we need to give him a chance. what do you think about this XI?

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1 hour ago, blueblood22 said:

i think kante shold be drooped out, he played really bad in his last 2 matches. i would start with ainaChalobah, alonso, azpi at the back with RLC and oscar as MC, as wingers with moses and hazard and costa and michy as 2 strikers side by side. i know RLC need to run more and play better that he did until now but we need to give him a chance. what do you think about this XI?

3 fullbacks and a kid that haven't played as CB for ages as back 4? Oscar that plays 4 good games in a season and a overrated kid in midfield? Sorry no. Back four should consist of Alonzo and Azpi as fullbacks And Luiz and Terry as Cb (If not Terry then give Tomori a chance). I vould like to try the midfield of Chalobah as CDM Fabregas and Kante. Kante should roam freely and try to intercept their attacks and try to move the team forward. And i agree on Moses, he should start instead of Wilian without a doubt

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11 hours ago, Reddish-Blue said:

No one is asking Conte to drop all the under performing players and replace them with Under-21 players

Replacing one senior first team player with a youngster shouldn't be a problem. 

A small change in the lineup may be a good thing. For example: Try Chalobah in midfield alongside Kante, see if it makes our midfield more dynamic against the opposition..

I certainly agree with that, and like I said before, Chalobah should be getting minutes.

What if Conte has already tried Chalobah in practice along with Kante? What if Chalobah has been poor in training, or Matic wins every dispute with Chalobah in practice (just making stuff up as I don't know). Or what if Conte is worried about winning some aerial duels esp in set pieces in our area with a squad that is on the short side?

I am sure he will make changes and try new players, esp the more ready one like Chalobah, but i don't expect this jump in performance some do. I think if you play Chalobah instead of Matic, for example, the differences would be subtle.

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55 minutes ago, Robguima said:

I certainly agree with that, and like I said before, Chalobah should be getting minutes.

What if Conte has already tried Chalobah in practice along with Kante? What if Chalobah has been poor in training, or Matic wins every dispute with Chalobah in practice (just making stuff up as I don't know). Or what if Conte is worried about winning some aerial duels esp in set pieces in our area with a squad that is on the short side?

We've seen Chalobah play in preseason and he was one of our best performers. And if I recall correctly, he looked good even with Fabregas next to him. We don't know what happens in practice, but whatever does, I'm not buying it.

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33 minutes ago, Chelsea Legend 11 said:

Really need to stop referencing the preseason in relation to Chalobah... He averaged like 20mins against tired teams, its not exactly the same as starting in the premier league.

I just think he deserves a chance because our other options(aside from Kante) have been well off the pace. 

Not necessarily tired, but at least we agree that he should be given an opportunity, instead of playing it "safe" all the time with Matic and Oscar or heaven forbid - Mikel.

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41 minutes ago, Jason said:

The way some of you here are moaning about Conte and even asking for him to be sacked is farcical. Would make you people great candidates to replace Emenalo, Maria etc in the boardroom. Sure, Conte has made some mistakes in his reign but tell me, which managers do not make mistake? Even the best do. Conte deserves time to prove he can learn from mistakes and improve himself and he certainly deserves time considering how much he's being let down by the incompetent board and players. Conte isn't a manager we got from the lower leagues and has no experience at the highest level. He's a manager who has had big success in his two previous jobs and has pedigree and credibility to go with him.

And here's the big question, if we sack Conte now, who the hell are we going to appoint? Call Hiddink again for his third stint? There's no top manager out there right now that's suitable for the job. If we continue to call for managers to be sacked the minute something goes wrong and actually sack him without proper backing, then we would forever be stuck in this cycle and would never get back to the elite level we were once in.

The Hiddink appointment last season made no sense. What's the point of papering over the cracks when you know there are significant problems in the first team?

I thought things would change this season but the same problems from last season are showing up again (players jogging around, attacking midfielders standing around waiting for the ball, defenders looking clueless without Terry, Courtois being cocky).

I feel bad for Conte, he comes over from Italy, where he demands respect from his players (both at club and international level) and he gets stuck with a Chelsea squad who are known to put their 'tools down' if things don't go according to plan. 

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