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Jose's love for Ivanovic is everlasting. Today playing at home to a lowly team like Bournemouth he benches our best RB Cesar and plays captain Ivanovic who has not made one decent cross out of all the great opportunities he was afforded. His lack of pace is embarrassing for a full back being caught out numerous times when they hit on the counter. His arms behind the back play makes me cringe everytime.

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Jose's love for Ivanovic is everlasting. Today playing at home to a lowly team like Bournemouth he benches our best RB Cesar and plays captain Ivanovic who has not made one decent cross out of all the great opportunities he was afforded. His lack of pace is embarrassing for a full back being caught out numerous time when they hit on the counter.

Something is clearly going on between them.

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definitely. i can see that. :lol:

Duuuude.. You need to lay off the negativity man. People are as frustrated as you are but you're always in here posting something negative and complaining about someone, bringing the mood down in here constantly. I want to whine and complain as well at times, especially after watching our 14/15 season review, but it won't do any good man. I just step off the screen and relax :).

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Really can't be put up with his awful style of football. Can't wait until he has gone. So uninspiring. Approaching 75 mins and still 0-0 at home to Bournemouth and with the way it is going, probably will end that way. Shambolic. Mourinho just does not know how to play attacking football with the players at his disposal.

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Duuuude.. You need to lay off the negativity man. People are as frustrated as you are but you're always in here posting something negative and complaining about someone, bringing the mood down in here constantly. I want to whine and complain as well at times, especially after watching our 14/15 season review, but it won't do any good man. I just step off the screen and relax :).

Yeah I'm sorry friend, it's hard not to be negative with Mourinho at the team.

I had enough already, tired of this guy.

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Mata had been bought back in 2011.

2011/2012 25 points behind City.

2012/2013 14 points behind United.

(I have seen you doing it, couldn't resist... ;) )

Since 2013 Mourinho has taken over and tweaked the system, gone are the days of having Mata as the number 10.

You got me, it's not about the departure of Juan Mata, but rather the change of position of some players and different tasks.

Everyone could see the immediate improvement, more and more consistent, compact and competitive.

I think Mata would have been a good option to have around, surely it would have helped us lot in the end of the 2013/2014 campaign, especially in the games you mentioned, but Mata wanted to play more and that wasn't possible.

World-Cup was ahead of us, similar to Kevin's case.

I'm sorry, but after shit went bananas it's a lot easier to re-evaluate the situation.

Yes, you are right with your criticism of Oscar's decline since Mata and de Bruyne left, but who could have seen that one coming?

Maybe you... :)

In the next season i think Mata and Oscar weren't that wide apart.

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The first spell of 2015/2016 goes on Mata, not even a competition (sadly).

Oscar's decline before the world cup was used as a simple excuse, sometimes people need hope,

don't think anyone really believed that.

Fabregas should have done better, he didn't want to deal with the situation properly or realised it too late, don't know.

Such moments are decisive, set the direction of the match. Mourinho said it himself after the match, most of the people knew that Chelsea were in big trouble after that chance.

The whole team was really bad, no one deserves a good mark, imo.

Yes, whoscored gave Fabregas the highest rating among all Chelsea players. At least there was a long shot at goal, but overall, your right, the mark is way too high imo. But i don't want to discredit whoscored, they are the professionals

who do it day in, day out, it is how it is.

Back in the day, Chelsea had Hazard, Mata, Willian, Schurrle, de Bruyne and Oscar.

All of them weren't out of form, they wanted to play. They all wanted to participate in the upcoming World-Cup.

Which big club has (had) so many fit and class attacking players in their squad?

Can't see one in the last years.

So there has to be some rotation, which Mourinho did, but imo de Bruyne wanted to play most of the time and Mata wasn't comfortable on the wing and with his new tasks.

Big money offers arrived, instead of waiting too long (United are specialists in getting less money) Chelsea granted their wishes and sold them.

In contrast to Everton, if you want out, Chelsea will find a way to make it happen.

I would have loved to see more from Loftus-Cheek, can't be in denial.

But whatever the reasons are, i trust Mourinho. Varane recently praised him for being hard on him, in the end Mourinho has made him a better player.

I don't know what's going on with Remy.

Sometimes it's strange, why he didn't make the grade.

Maybe Remy isn't suited to this style of play, no one seems able to play decent through balls, in my point of view Loftus-Cheek isn't that good either in this department. Costa is better as the lone wolf, imo.

I think you're a bit too harsh.

Didn't get Kenedy the preference ahead of Willian against Everton?

I think Mouriho rates him highly.

About the others it's more difficult to disprove.

Who wanted to buy Papy?

It seems Papy didn't impress Mourinho and maybe it wasn't his idea to buy him either. For me, that's on the board.

However, the season is still young, maybe he needs more time to settle in.

Can't say anything against the likes of Loftus-Cheek and Traore, you do have a point.

It would have been interesting if Ivanovic had been dropped earlier, especially when the new guy Baba struggled with fitness.

Who would have been his successor, Zouma?

For me, that's the crux of the matter.

You need a guy who is able to take over and make it work.

Finally, Ivanovic has upped his game since his return imo, maybe he can continue like that.

I think Baba will get more and more playing time, Mourinho recently said that the contract extension of Brane isn't that important for now.

Could be a possibility, that the end is near, then the way will be open for Baba.

With all due respect; there is a difference between some older guys who are higher up the food chain or some expensive young guy, whose career has just started and he is here for the long run.

A guy like Kondogbia would have been some cock block for Loftus-Cheek, imo.

But i can agree with you on this one, one more midfielder should be in the squad.

The question is why not get someone who is more attacking?

Begovic did make some good saves, no question.

But the whole defence is a mess right now and maybe Courtois is better in sorting this out, don't know.

Have to look for some hope, i think. Getting desperate, lol.

Why do i believe Jose Mourinho is still the man?

Back in 2004 he worked wonders and decisions like making a 23 year old milk face the permanent captain, continuing to help Lampard reaching his potential, getting the best out of Joey and so on shows what he's capable of.

But the integration of young players, it's becoming a bigger problem every few months, most of the young guys get the impression too early that they are going to the top, can't wait aynmore, when things get tough, they bottle it.

Some would call this behaviour spineless.

When guys 18,19 years of age don't get regular playing time in a top team, the cunt in charge must be held accountable for it,

because it can't be their fault, almost always there is already an excuse in place, otherwise it's shisha time with some models.

Or some agent calls you and asks for a way out, because a lot of the current generation have become soft, no fight whatsoever,

but fake tears everywhere.

When you truly want something, you have to take it and sometimes it requires a fight, but what can you say to these dudes,

when the average salary of a footballer in the Premier League is about ~2,3 mio. a year?

Some 18 years olds are already earning around a million a year, before they even played a professional match in the leauge, lol.

What can you do against that shit?

Swallow or stand up but risking the sack?!

After choosing to fight, you desperately need character, because it's already a lost cause.

Cleary it's been a rough spell so far, but i have seen a lot worse.

But again, the stadium is crowed with people who had to pay serious money to get in and lot of them are expecting a particular style of play. Some of them may take pictures, but after watching on their mobiles the new wonder goal from Neymar or the latest powerplay from Bayern Munich. They won't be satisfied.

Jose Mourinho is a lot of things, but stupid ain't one.

He did drop player after player, Costa is the last one.

Most of the so-called top teams are dropping like flies, injuries or the "smaller" teams get the better of them.

Maybe i'm naiv but i think it's still possible to get a top 4 finish, but if not, so be it.

In my point of view we don't necessarly need expensive starlets, but some reconstruction has to happen.

You mentioned a lot of names, again maybe i'm naiv, but i think when they are truly good enough,

some of them might stand a chance.

Now we come to the next thing, it's not all about the performances, it's the overall impression, what kind of personality you have and so on. The atmosphere within the squad is important!

I think you disagree, each of us has his point of view, we'll see how it will turn out. :yay:

i am sorry dude. but if u cant see how shit he is. how massively he has been found out. how pathetic each and every of his decision has been this season, then i have nothing to say to you.

3 of our worst players - oscar, cesc, iva of the season, yet again start the fucking match. whats the fucking result? i am sorry, but if you cant see how bloody awful jose is for us, then i have nothing to say to you.

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Can someone tell me what the fuck would other manager bring to this team? Bournemouth had 10 players in the box 98% of the game. So what would other manager do? Enter the field and score a goal himself? It's not like fucking bournemouth dominated us the whole game, no, they scored a fluke corner and thats it

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Can someone tell me what the fuck would other manager bring to this team? Bournemouth had 10 players in the box 98% of the game. So what would other manager do? Enter the field and score a goal himself? It's not like fucking bournemouth dominated us the whole game, no, they scored a fluke corner and thats it

He would play right players, right formation. He would make some attacking plan. He would play youth. He would buy players and alot more...
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Can someone tell me what the fuck would other manager bring to this team? Bournemouth had 10 players in the box 98% of the game. So what would other manager do? Enter the field and score a goal himself? It's not like fucking bournemouth dominated us the whole game, no, they scored a fluke corner and thats it

hahahhahahaha...

for starters, any decent manager would not have played 3 of our worst players this season - ivanovic, cesc, oscar. and then any other manager would actually give players an attacking shape and idea. get the difference?

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Can someone tell me what the fuck would other manager bring to this team? Bournemouth had 10 players in the box 98% of the game. So what would other manager do? Enter the field and score a goal himself? It's not like fucking bournemouth dominated us the whole game, no, they scored a fluke corner and thats it

They had 10 men in the box yet they have had over 13 shots. Don't try and excuse Mourinho for this. It is shocking on the team and him but he can't inspire us to victories unsless it is by a single goal like Norwich. Not good enough. He needs to fuck off from here. Can't wait to see the votes of this thread change. Anyone wanting him at the club after this have seriously been brainwashed the same way he has brainwashed our team in to playing shit football for a whole now.

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