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MrBlueGuy

Next Manager?

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6 hours ago, RoyalBlues said:

Lol, if anyone could believe that by appointing current Lampard will bring us glory. Nothing wrong with saying appointing the likes of Allegri and even Jose will do too. You may hate the man from the bottom of your heart, but cannot denied that he is still one of the best. Remember how Jose Mark I ended, it was a mess too, and look what he did in his first and second season of Mark II. 

Is he? Historically absolutely but is he really one of the best active managers in 2019? I see no evidence to suggest so, ever since his title in 2015 he's been stumbling across one disaster after another.

You wouldn't bring a washed up ex great player to next season's lineup based on what he did in the past, so why would you with a manager?

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On 6/15/2019 at 0:13 AM, Tomo said:

How do you know that? Arsenal don't have a big budget and Auba and Lacazette aside have been pretty pants in the market for years. United throw money away at will.

They may sign players but there's no guarantee both or even either will significantly improve, infact (recent) history suggests they won't.

They don't really have to improve much, we are out of top 4 if we collect only three points less than this season (and if other teams don't improve and collect the same amount of points). I don't think we will collapse or anything like that but the transfer ban, Hazard leaving, several players being inexperienced at top level football... All these factors make Lampard's job the toughest one among all the managers Roman hired.

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Sky Sports News understands Derby County have been contacted by a number of candidates enquiring about the manager's job at Pride Park - but all of them have been told there isn't a vacancy.

Derby have categorically refused to engage in any sort of discussion with the would-be managers or their representatives, so as not to undermine their current relationship with Frank Lampard, with whom they are still negotiating an improved and extended contract.

Derby owner Mel Morris said yesterday that they want Lampard to stay for the long term, and they are building their plans around him.

However, it's expected that Chelsea will soon make a move for Lampard to take over from Maurizio Sarri - though there has been no formal contact with Derby so far.

Chelsea's all-time leading scorer is currently away on holiday, but is in regular contact with his representatives over developments at Pride Park.

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Gianfranco Zola has been offered an ambassadorial role by Chelsea, which he has rejected after being told by the club that they have no plans to keep him next season. @MattHughesTimes via: @TimesSport

Another day, another.....

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7 minutes ago, the wes said:

Sky Sports News understands Derby County have been contacted by a number of candidates enquiring about the manager's job at Pride Park - but all of them have been told there isn't a vacancy.

Derby have categorically refused to engage in any sort of discussion with the would-be managers or their representatives, so as not to undermine their current relationship with Frank Lampard, with whom they are still negotiating an improved and extended contract.

Derby owner Mel Morris said yesterday that they want Lampard to stay for the long term, and they are building their plans around him.

However, it's expected that Chelsea will soon make a move for Lampard to take over from Maurizio Sarri - though there has been no formal contact with Derby so far.

Chelsea's all-time leading scorer is currently away on holiday, but is in regular contact with his representatives over developments at Pride Park.

Funny that Derby are suddenly making all the noises when they were so quiet in previous weeks...

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Apparently Derby offered Gerrard the job if Lamps leaves??? He rejected it anyway.

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2 hours ago, Jason said:

That happened after all the drama yesterday?! :lol: 

Money talks...

1 hour ago, OneMoSalah said:

Apparently Derby offered Gerrard the job if Lamps leaves??? He rejected it anyway.

Not surprising. It's a step down all things considered.

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9 hours ago, Tomo said:

Is he? Historically absolutely but is he really one of the best active managers in 2019? I see no evidence to suggest so, ever since his title in 2015 he's been stumbling across one disaster after another.

You wouldn't bring a washed up ex great player to next season's lineup based on what he did in the past, so why would you with a manager?

Well, yes, he is always good in his first and second season and then messed up in his 3rd. So based on a fair judgement actually he is still the best option available and perfectly fit for our condition atm imo, until our ban lifted. Definitely Lampard is not the best option we could have atm. That's the point. And the board looks like still considering some options out there, as trust me, if we made Lampard our top priority since weeks ago, we would have announce him by now.

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You can’t be serious on bringing the stubborn Mourinho back...

Not after what he did to us and United. And feck me, he’ll start Willian and Alonso at all costs.

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4 hours ago, RoyalBlues said:

Well, yes, he is always good in his first and second season and then messed up in his 3rd. So based on a fair judgement actually he is still the best option available and perfectly fit for our condition atm imo, until our ban lifted. Definitely Lampard is not the best option we could have atm. That's the point. And the board looks like still considering some options out there.

He was absolutely dreadful in his first season at United (finishing 6th with Zlatan as your striker is god awful) and got out of jail due to the kindest Europa League run in history. But even if that's the case, do we really want the one-step forward then three back yet again? Last time you can justify it by the fact we got a title out of it, I guarentee we won't this time.

If anything our current transfer ban makes him even less suited, part of the reason it all went wrong last time was because he wasn't getting his expensive targets and it was arguably the sole reason it went wrong the first time, also we've just recently sold the two players he built his attacking structure around last time.

Also with the ban the need to promote our brilliant academy players comes to the fore even more, do you honestly trust Mourinho to do what's right by Reece James, Hudson Odoi, Mason Mount, Ethan Ampadu? Make no mistake those guys are the real deal and if we don't nurture them others will nab them off us, most likely rivals in this league. Mourinho won't patiently develop them, it's not in his nature, he won't be able to do a Klopp and take on a 3 year project (it's three years minimum until we're challenging for the league and the CL again bar a written in the stars run in the latters case) he won't be able to, his ego won't be able to stay calm through all the punches he will have to ride to get there.

Lampard while a risk as the unknown, it also means we can go into it with hope. With Jose back we all roughly know what the script is going to be only this time it will almost certainly be all the bullshit with no league title to show for it.

Jose will always be a massive figure in the history of the club, no one can ever take that away from him, but he should never be our manager again.

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6 minutes ago, ChelseaFanUK said:

di marzio has not even reported it.  Some other guy has..

Yeah, and the screenshoted tweet is from 4 days ago.

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1 hour ago, Mana said:

You can’t be serious on bringing the stubborn Mourinho back...

Not after what he did to us and United. And feck me, he’ll start Willian and Alonso at all costs.

I 100% agree with you on this one my relationship with mourinho ended when he held up that utd shirt he dug his own grave with the hardcore Chelsea fans that day 

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