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MrBlueGuy

Next Manager?

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23 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I want to keep him to have stability. 

To build on a manager identity. 

Just like I have wanted to keep the past manager. 

So do i and i genuinely thought he was doing a good job upto last month but the last month has been beyond bad and can't be ignored.

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2 minutes ago, Tomo said:

So do i and i genuinely thought he was doing a good job upto last month but the last month has been beyond bad and can't be ignored.

Every manager we had always had one bad month or two. 

No one we get will ever be perfect. 

It's always the same. 

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24 minutes ago, Fernando said:

I want to keep him to have stability. 

To build on a manager identity. 

Just like I have wanted to keep the past manager. 

Doubt any Chelsea fan would say no to stability but the problem is, Sarri hasn't given us any reason why we should persist with him, even through the hard times. Backing the manager for the sake of it is hardly a recipe for success. This person nailed it with Sarri (although No.5 is a bit harsh).

And that's without mentioning the confusing messages he's said vs his actions. He criticized them after a defeat and has gone on to play the same lot in the next game OR he went from "CHO is not ready" to "CHO is ready. I consider him on the same level as Pedro/Willian" to "I can only play CHO if we sell one of Pedro/Willian/Hazard"!

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1 minute ago, Fernando said:

Every manager we had always had one bad month or two. 

No one we get will ever be perfect. 

It's always the same. 

This isn't even about a bad period anymore. It's about his team management. He's been playing the same formation, making the same subs in every single game, setting us up with predictable tactics, not reacting to opponents' tactics. criticizing the players but continuing to play them, praising some players but then not rewarding them with starting places etc. We've been playing badly for months now and he's shown next to zero changes in trying to turn things around. He's just throwing the same thing out every time and hoping it goes well. We criticized the likes of Mourinho/Conte for being guilty of those in the past - I believe even you did it - so why is Sarri getting all the free pass now? 

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9 minutes ago, Fernando said:

Every manager we had always had one bad month or two. 

No one we get will ever be perfect. 

It's always the same. 

I can (and have) accepted not perfect, but i can't accept the meak capiluations of late, it's relegation form.

I do actually like what Sarri is trying to do system wise (i particularly like how comfortable we are playing out from the back for the most part even against the elite, my one criticism of Jose and Conte even when it was all gardens and flowers was how we struggled against intelligent pressing), but so many things are going against him now (some his doing others not).

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

I want to keep him to have stability. 

To build on a manager identity. 

Just like I have wanted to keep the past manager. 

 

unfortunately we can't waste time building stability with a stubborn, underwhelming manager with a blank CV

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14 minutes ago, lucio said:

unfortunately we can't waste time building stability with a stubborn, underwhelming manager with a blank CV

So who do you suggest?

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30 minutes ago, BluesMadLad said:

So who do you suggest?

I don't really know whos out there tbh. I felt like we could have built stability with Conte - if his relationship with the board had not soured., and they got some better wingbacks in and a striker.

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4 minutes ago, lucio said:

 

I don't really know whos out there tbh. I felt like we could have built stability with Conte - if his relationship with the board had not soured., and they got some better wingbacks in and a striker.

This is where the problem lies, with the board. The recruitment at this club has been shocking for years now. We have become the over 30 AFC

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7 hours ago, Special Juan said:

To be fair Howe has done a super job at Bournemouth, and considering their spending power he has them playing good football.

I'm not for one minute saying we should go for him, but this club bunny hop their way through managers so much it's like scratching around the lost property bin year on year.

The young English bloke who's done well on a poor budget would be something, that I think, the board would see as 'fuck it let's give it a go'

We've done AVB, Jose x2, the Italian chain smoker is charge now, who was meant to bring 'Sarri-ball', it's more like Sorry-ball because I don't think the players have a clue what it is, and neither does Sarri.

 

It is more than possession football. To be able to be successful he need to have a style that can be successful for big team if not it will be like David Moyes all over again. I need to watch bournemouth play more to understand,but I watched Poch soton team twice and I understand why he was hired for spurs. 

 

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33 minutes ago, mccg said:

Zinedine Zidane ‘more than happy’ to join Chelsea FC – report

Zinedine Zidane is still keen on the Chelsea FC job, according to reports

https://www.thesportreview.com/2019/02/chelsea-fc-news-zinedine-zidane-latest-update/

Ofc. Then he is happy with the squad and wont expect any signings knowing the squad will fuck up and he gets the sack after a couple of months. Easy payday for Zidane! 

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Terry or Lampard if Sarri get sack. 

The players don't respect coaches nor the club. 

No. It is going to be a disaster. Built a strong foundation of possession based team and then you can bring manager like Lamp or Terry. 

 

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1 hour ago, Fernando said:

Terry or Lampard if Sarri get sack. 

The players don't respect coaches nor the club. 

I wouldn't want to see either get treated like dirt. 

It's worrying once again we're even having this discussion.... 

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2 minutes ago, communicate said:

Nah the hate on Sarri is still very high.

Imo Chelsea fans are just too spoiled. That early Roman era spoiled everyone. We had the most expensive squad and the best squad in the league. The lack of excitement being able to go toe to toe to city really shows that. Chelsea fans still think we are at the same level as City but clearly we are not. We cannot compete in the market with city, what we can do is spend correctly and build a strong foundation for the future. 

That's it. I do think Sarri has had his faults this season.. A lot and seems so much behind the scenes crap going on as well.  Didn't deserve what happened today at all. 

Just annoying how set we seemed years back with Jose and then that went so sour.. Twice! 

Yeah especially as we may only have window for a while.. Lets hope they do spend correctly. 

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Chlsea fans are not spoilt.

That is bollocks. What we are is sick of self-inflicted wounds from every angle.

Why the fuck would we want to go back to the shit club of the 70's, 80's and 90's?

It would be like telling the people living in Shoreditch to slum out because some billionaire Russian says so and bunch of old jelly fools want to see a vibrant neighbourhood revert back to a shithole of their youth so they can feel good via schadenfreude.

Ownership on down are the bad guys in this all.

Marina has been a DISASTER at her job, yet is untouchable, still in absolute puppet-power.

The board have rule-broken us into a 2 window transfer ban, yet are safe n sound in their jobs because...SIBNEFT

Sarri got what he deserved from Kepa. 2/3rs of a year of horrific personnel decisions. Playing clearly SHIT players over others, to points it has cost us dearly overall in terms of potential exits and also standings.

Why the fuck would Sarri demand to take off a clearly superior player for a scrub. Caballero is shit.

Only thing I regret is that is wasn't Emerson refusing to come off for Alonso.

It isnt player power, it is common sense.

 

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50 minutes ago, Vesper said:

Chlsea fans are not spoilt.

That is bollocks. What we are is sick of self-inflicted wounds from every angle.

Why the fuck would we want to go back to the shit club of the 70's, 80's and 90's?

It would be like telling the people living in Shoreditch to slum out because some billionaire Russian says so and bunch of old jelly fools want to see a vibrant neighbourhood revert back to a shithole of their youth so they can feel good via schadenfreude.

Ownership on down are the bad guys in this all.

Marina has been a DISASTER at her job, yet is untouchable, still in absolute puppet-power.

The board have rule-broken us into a 2 window transfer ban, yet are safe n sound in their jobs because...SIBNEFT

Sarri got what he deserved from Kepa. 2/3rs of a year of horrific personnel decisions. Playing clearly SHIT players over others, to points it has cost us dearly overall in terms of potential exits and also standings.

Why the fuck would Sarri demand to take off a clearly superior player for a scrub. Caballero is shit.

Only thing I regret is that is wasn't Emerson refusing to come off for Alonso.

It isnt player power, it is common sense.

 

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Because he thought he was injured?

Fell twice due to what was thought as cramp and had hamstring issues before the game, to the point he was doubted fit to start?

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Dont hate Sarri seems a nice bloke.  We always want a manager to do well, and maybe the penny might drop with him now. If we beat Spurs, i may just believe he can do something here., but right now I just think our job might be too big for him, or at least one that he is struggling to grasp. 

I think the Kepa explanation from both parties is absolute BS. Trying to save face for the club.  I wouldnt say Sarri bottled the decision, but id have demanded Kepa leave the field if i was him.  The sub was quite clearly, imo, a pre planned change due to Caballero's penalty saving ability.

I have constantly complained about his lack of change and flexibility, and despite some saying today was a tactical masterclass or whatever, it wasnt.  It was simply realising we'd beaten them with this system before and hoping it worked again. Because if we had played the way he would of really wanted, we'd have got thumped.   It wasn't a complete change if you get me, or a real re-think of how to get us going. 

 

Absolutely not a chance in hell he 'wanted' to play false 9

 

The team v Spurs will prove it, he will go back to the old 11

 

 

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