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Billy.

Rumoured Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain

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2 hours ago, Iggy Doonican said:

There's been rumours he wanted to leave but he refused to sign a new contract only a few days ago what exactly are Chelsea supposed to have done ?. If we approached him outside of the transfer window  we would get done for tapping up so your point about enquiring about his situation is invalid. Bottom line he was offered a deal by us he turned it down it happens.

Well the window is open for two months now. If he was high on our list, we should bid for him month ago. If arsenal rejected us, move to next target. If Ox rejected us, move to next target. No need to tapping him. We would see exactly what is going on.

But the idea to try landing a player who clearly prefers to play CM (meaning high chance of refusing us) two days before deadline without any quality backup plan, thats idiotic.  

Im not even mad at Ox. He refused us, it happens. He wants to play midfield. But I blame our board for being naive and simply said fucked up our situation very nice. Tomorrow is last day and we still have one proper wingback on each side while going into 4 competitons. 

In the end Ox has nothing to do with this, the board are just incompetent to get shit done. 

Unless we sign Aurier or someone similar tomorrow, it will be panic buys over again. Decent quality, overpaid, but come next season and long term, not good enough players. And with few exceptions, thats going on more or less every year for a while now.

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7 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Well the window is open for two months now. If he was high on our list, we should bid for him month ago. If arsenal rejected us, move to next target. If Ox rejected us, move to next target. No need to tapping him. We would see exactly what is going on.

But the idea to try landing a player who clearly prefers to play CM (meaning high chance of refusing us) two days before deadline without any quality backup plan, thats idiotic.  

Im not even mad at Ox. He refused us, it happens. He wants to play midfield. But I blame our board for being naive and simply said fucked up our situation very nice. Tomorrow is last day and we still have one proper wingback on each side while going into 4 competitons. 

In the end Ox has nothing to do with this, the board are just incompetent to get shit done. 

Unless we sign Aurier or someone similar tomorrow, it will be panic buys over again. Decent quality, overpaid, but come next season and long term, not good enough players. And with few exceptions, thats going on more or less every year for a while now.

Can't blame the board for this imo. ( not that i think the board hasn't made mistakes this window it's just that specifically for the AOC transfer i don't think they did anything wrong)

Arsenal weren't gonna let him go until the very end and it's not like we've been waiting just for AOC.

I don't know what type of contact is allowed and what contact is considered "tapping up". Chances are we didn't know he wanted to only play CM. 

Maybe we did know but thought we could convince him. Not that crazy considering we're in a better position to win trophies then Arsenal and Liverpool and would be able to offer him better wages.

Unfortunately he really wants to play CM. Not much to be done.

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6 minutes ago, Belgiannutt said:

Can't blame the board for this imo. ( not that i think the board hasn't made mistakes this window it's just that specifically for the AOC transfer i don't think they did anything wrong)

Arsenal weren't gonna let him go until the very end and it's not like we've been waiting just for AOC.

I don't know what type of contact is allowed and what contact is considered "tapping up". Chances are we didn't know he wanted to only play CM. 

Maybe we did know but thought we could convince him. Not that crazy considering we're in a better position to win trophies then Arsenal and Liverpool and would be able to offer him better wages.

Unfortunately he really wants to play CM. Not much to be done.

Well we had whole summer to get the job done. There were and still are multiple quality players for both left and right flank. 

Zero excuse we didnt buy competition for Moses and Alonso yet.

If we buy someone good on final day and it works out, I will eat my humble pie, but if not, the board realy has no credit left if you ask me. Heading into 50-60 games season with this small squad is not acceptable. There is no excuse out there to explain it. Morata, Baka, Rudiger all good buys must say, but here I point on positons we didnt strenghten and we definately should. Its like they are taking a piss with all those sales and loans, and not bringing replacements in. Whole summer links left and right, for Sandro, for Lukaku, for Ox,...and I was defending the board we will eventualy sign Sandro and Lukaku probably wasnt even in our plans, but seeing its last day and transfers have not been made yet, more so we are failing to land even more players, thats big big failure. Dont get me wrong, Im happy we got Morata in the end, but principle was we were in for Lukaku, Sandro and failed to land them. Who knows who else we wanted and didnt get (Walker, Sanchez,...)

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Can't believe what a wank this boy turned out to be, can't understand why he would choose pool over Chelsea and it's reported that he will earn less there than in Chelsea or arsenal. Hope he will regret this move a couple of years later.

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23 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

If he was high on our list, we should bid for him month ago

He hadn't turned down a contract at Arsenal until a couple of days ago so what could anyone do ?, Chelsea get linked with loads of players all the time. He could quite easily have seen his contract out for another year or signed a new one we put in a bid Arsenal agreed the fee he turned us down end of.

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6 minutes ago, BlueLyon said:

Well we had whole summer to get the job done. There were and still are multiple quality players for both left and right flank. 

Zero excuse we didnt buy competition for Moses and Alonso yet.

Fully agree with that it's just that i don't believe the board can be blamed for the AOC deal not going through. Regardless of what they did it was never gonna happen.

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2 minutes ago, Iggy Doonican said:

He hadn't turned down a contract at Arsenal until a couple of days ago so what could anyone do ?, Chelsea get linked with loads of players all the time. He could quite easily have seen his contract out for another year or signed a new one we put in a bid Arsenal agreed the fee he turned us down end of.

Sorry, but is it necessary he has to refuse the new contract first or ? We couldnt bid for him before? 

How did we buy Morata or Bakayoko then? They didnt turn down new contracts before we bid for them?

As far I know tapping up means talking with player before talking with club. Official bid to the club for xx player can come any time. But officialy player is registered in new club during transfer windows.

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On 30/08/2017 at 10:46 PM, Sideshow Luiz said:

I'm sure he's paying for some of it, but it's going to be about 500M

I think it will end up being more than half a billion, I don't think Roman is going to pay for any of it, and nor do I see why he should.

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I can't believe how stupid his move to Liverpool is, or at least looking at it based on their system and first 11. He would of been a great option for us as a wing back I think, by all accounts Conte helped Moses find a more prominent role for his skill set and AOC is another player who has a lot of similar skills and similar faults.

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We dodged a bullet. He's not good enough for a central midfielder. I know he's only 24, but he's got a longggg way to go.

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8 hours ago, OhForAGreavsie said:

I think it will end up being more than half a billion, I don't think Roman is going to pay for any of it, and nor do I see why he should.

I really don't know what the finances are going to be.

Considering what we've been spending (net) in the transfer market lately, it would appear that the club is going to try to pay for all of it.

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Klopp is the best manager Scumpool has had since Paisley but really he`s not enough with the board/owner to get them a league title unless their youth set up can produce their version of Man U`s class of `92. which is extremely unlikely. it`s his choice when two clubs can agree a price with his club but really it`s hard to understand personally why chose a position on the field over more silverwear and top experiences in football. he was playing his best football of his career at Wing back..if he was playing a position where he was being humiliated at (not counting his last game for Arsenal where he obviously didn`t have his head and heart in it)  then it would be understandable.

I can`t hate scumpool any more than I always have but really,adds a little spice to seeing them play now. be nice if Drinkwater lines up against him in Midfield and humiliates him.

 

 

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Arsene Wenger has questioned whether Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain was tapped up by Liverpool before his transfer to Anfield.

off course he was tapped up how did ox know that liverpool would play in midfield klopp must have promise him the role 

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“The idea of playing centrally is definitely something I like,” he says. “When I got that opportunity at Arsenal I enjoyed it. I liked having more of the ball. The main reason I came here was the understanding I’d be playing further up the pitch and in a more attacking role, and more opportunities centrally to express that. I wouldn’t say central midfield, I’d say an attacking midfielder.

“That’s the beauty of this Liverpool team: you can be one of four attacking positions, everywhere except striker, and have that attacking-midfielder influence. The wingers tend to not be so wide all the time, they start inside to go out or out to come in, similar to England at the moment. But I have to find my feet — and there’s a lot of competition for places.”

The 24-year-old has a particular inspiration, a local hero. “When I really started to take a massive interest in football [as a teenager], I was playing centre mid and was told to learn from people in my position at the top of the game, so Stevie [Gerrard] was the one I used to watch,” Oxlade-Chamberlain says. “I love to run with the ball as well. Over the years I’d see him making long, marauding runs through the middle, long strides bursting into the box, getting shots in, scoring amazing goals.

“Stevie was one of the most exciting players to watch, attacking-wise, and he could pass, but at the same time he had that passion, he could tackle. When I got the chance to play with him for England [on eight occasions between 2012 and 2014] I saw how hard he worked every day, and how good he was. That was one of my dreams, to play like him. I used to love Thierry Henry, one of my idols as well, but I knew I wouldn’t be a striker so I wanted to be Stevie G.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/alex-oxlade-chamberlain-interview-juergen-klopp-is-intense-and-involved-hell-kick-me-up-the-backside-7rxzr8xqs?shareToken=ad4faac1bcc28474df661f42ece34596

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1 hour ago, Blusan Alamb said:

“The idea of playing centrally is definitely something I like,” he says. “When I got that opportunity at Arsenal I enjoyed it. I liked having more of the ball. The main reason I came here was the understanding I’d be playing further up the pitch and in a more attacking role, and more opportunities centrally to express that. I wouldn’t say central midfield, I’d say an attacking midfielder.

“That’s the beauty of this Liverpool team: you can be one of four attacking positions, everywhere except striker, and have that attacking-midfielder influence. The wingers tend to not be so wide all the time, they start inside to go out or out to come in, similar to England at the moment. But I have to find my feet — and there’s a lot of competition for places.”

The 24-year-old has a particular inspiration, a local hero. “When I really started to take a massive interest in football [as a teenager], I was playing centre mid and was told to learn from people in my position at the top of the game, so Stevie [Gerrard] was the one I used to watch,” Oxlade-Chamberlain says. “I love to run with the ball as well. Over the years I’d see him making long, marauding runs through the middle, long strides bursting into the box, getting shots in, scoring amazing goals.

“Stevie was one of the most exciting players to watch, attacking-wise, and he could pass, but at the same time he had that passion, he could tackle. When I got the chance to play with him for England [on eight occasions between 2012 and 2014] I saw how hard he worked every day, and how good he was. That was one of my dreams, to play like him. I used to love Thierry Henry, one of my idols as well, but I knew I wouldn’t be a striker so I wanted to be Stevie G.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/alex-oxlade-chamberlain-interview-juergen-klopp-is-intense-and-involved-hell-kick-me-up-the-backside-7rxzr8xqs?shareToken=ad4faac1bcc28474df661f42ece34596

What a dipstick. How can someone be so deluded, plain dumb and naive at the same time? So what now a central midfielder or am attacking midfielder? Wither way Klopp already has plenty of those with all of them having better ability on the ball than Ox. His decision becoming a Cm is even more braindead and ill suited to his abilities as Walcotts wish ro be a striker. How come Arsenal players tend to overestimatw their abilities all the time. All the ox can do is run and that is about it. So which position should you bot play him? Yes that is correct: any position that involves strategic play of the ball. 

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