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Madmax

Ballon d'Or

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(Mods add the complete nominations list please, I'm on mobile)

Courtois, Hazard and Costa among the 23 man shortlist. Only 2 other PL players - Yaya, di Maria.

Ronaldo and Simeone have to win, surely?

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http://www.espnfc.com/international-friendly/story/2113523/fifa-unveils-shortlist-of-23-candidates-for-this-years-ballon-dor

23 contenders for Ballon d'Or:

Gareth Bale
Karim Benzema
Diego Costa
Thibaut Courtois
Angel Di Maria
Mario Gotze
Eden Hazard
Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Andres Iniesta
Toni Kroos
Philipp Lahm
Javier Mascherano
Lionel Messi
Thomas Muller
Manuel Neuer
Neymar
Paul Pogba
Sergio Ramos
Arjen Robben
James Rodriguez
Cristiano Ronaldo
Bastian Schweinsteiger
Yaya Toure

10 contenders for Coach of the Year:

Carlo Ancelotti
Antonio Conte
Pep Guardiola
Jurgen Klinsmann
Joachim Low
Jose Mourinho
Manuel Pellegrini
Alejandro Sabella
Diego Simeone
Louis van Gaal

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(Mods add the complete nominations list please, I'm on mobile)

Courtois, Hazard and Costa among the 23 man shortlist. Only 2 other PL players - Yaya, di Maria.

Ronaldo and Simeone have to win, surely?

You're just lazy! :P

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http://www.espnfc.com/international-friendly/story/2113523/fifa-unveils-shortlist-of-23-candidates-for-this-years-ballon-dor

23 contenders for Ballon d'Or:

Gareth Bale

Karim Benzema

Diego Costa

Thibaut Courtois

Angel Di Maria

Mario Gotze

Eden Hazard

Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Andres Iniesta

Toni Kroos

Philipp Lahm

Javier Mascherano

Lionel Messi

Thomas Muller

Manuel Neuer

Neymar

Paul Pogba

Sergio Ramos

Arjen Robben

James Rodriguez

Cristiano Ronaldo

Bastian Schweinsteiger

Yaya Toure

10 contenders for Coach of the Year:

Carlo Ancelotti

Antonio Conte

Pep Guardiola

Jurgen Klinsmann

Joachim Low

Jose Mourinho

Manuel Pellegrini

Alejandro Sabella

Diego Simeone

Louis van Gaal

weres suarez??

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Penaldo will surely win it. should be Neuer even though I hate the one arrogant shithead just as much as the other one, u have to admire their ambition, drive and commitment.

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James had a great world cup. But it's so unfair to guys like Silva, Suarez that they miss out. Goetze same thing. He's a good player but he wasn't a pivotal player for Bayern or Germany. World cup performances hold too much weight imo.

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You know Ronaldo?

Hue hue hue, u r so funny. A condescending rhetorical question seasoned with a little sarcams. jajajajajaja

He is good but is he even important? Portugal were awful in the world cup, he lost the league, Supercopa de Espana and scored a consolation goal in the CL final. He didn't score or assist in the Copa del Rey final. Not the best player in the world.

Bale scored more important goals than him.

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Hue hue hue, u r so funny. A condescending rhetorical question seasoned with a little sarcams. jajajajajaja

He is good but is he even important? Portugal were awful in the world cup, he lost the league, Supercopa de Espana and scored a consolation goal in the CL final. He didn't score or assist in the Copa del Rey final. Not the best player in the world.

Bale scored more important goals than him.

17 goals in CL. Leading scorer on CL winners and Copa Del Rey winners. Leading goalscorer in La Liga. Got Portugal to the WC.

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Hue hue hue, u r so funny. A condescending rhetorical question seasoned with a little sarcams. jajajajajaja

He is good but is he even important? Portugal were awful in the world cup, he lost the league, Supercopa de Espana and scored a consolation goal in the CL final. He didn't score or assist in the Copa del Rey final. Not the best player in the world.

Bale scored more important goals than him.

Same could be said about Costa who you suggested. Spain were awful in the world cup. Didn't score in the CL final. Didn't score in the Semi's of Copa Del Rey over 2 legs. Didn't score in Supercopa De Espana. Not the best player in the world.

Ronaldo is more deserving than Costa or Muller.

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James had a great world cup. But it's so unfair to guys like Silva, Suarez that they miss out. Goetze same thing. He's a good player but he wasn't a pivotal player for Bayern or Germany. World cup performances hold too much weight imo.

As it should IMO. Performances in the highest stage of football should be worth more than in domestic leagues or, let's say, friendlies. Even if, the whole package considered, you are individually worse than player X, if you performed better than X when it mattered and led your team to victory, you should be held in higher regard.

It's like Kaka in 2007. Kaka is a great player but he was not individually the best player in the world in 2007, he was the player that performed the best in matches of the highest importance that year, he was the player that showed up the most when the team really needed him, there's a slight difference if that makes sense. When everything was at stake he absolutely destroyed Manchester United and Cristiano Ronaldo, who was the strongest contender IMO. Kaka and also Seedorf who played out of his mind in the latest stages of that UCL.

I believe the prize should put even greater emphasis on team success in important tournaments than it does as of now, because it encourages team work. You must play in a way that improves the chances of leading your side to victory whether you bag loads of goals and assists or not. Winning as a team should be of the utmost importance even for individual prizes, just so even the CR7's and Messi's care about team balance, about defending, about marking, and not only about being flashy or hitting 3 digits of goals and assists. A Ballon D'Or winner should come from at least one of the finalists in UCL or World Cup, with rare exceptions. Continuing this train of thought, I honestly find it a disgrace to the game that CR7 takes so many shots per game, it's simply not possible that every single one of those attempts were the best option available for him at the time he made them. IMO that kind of overly selfish attitude should be discouraged from football and one of the ways in doing that is not giving individual awards to players performing like that. I also think players who dive/cheat too much should not even make the list. The prize should be used to improve the sport more so than for awarding individual prowess which worsen it. But that's just me.

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As it should IMO. Performances in the highest stage of football should be worth more than in domestic leagues or, let's say, friendlies. Even if, the whole package considered, you are individually worse than player X, if you performed better than X when it mattered and led your team to victory, you should be held in higher regard.

It's like Kaka in 2007. Kaka is a great player but he was not individually the best player in the world in 2007, he was the player that performed the best in matches of the highest importance that year, he was the player that showed up the most when the team really needed him, there's a slight difference if that makes sense. When everything was at stake he absolutely destroyed Manchester United and Cristiano Ronaldo, who was the strongest contender IMO. Kaka and also Seedorf who played out of his mind in the latest stages of that UCL.

I believe the prize should put even greater emphasis on team success in important tournaments than it does as of now, because it encourages team work. You must play in a way that improves the chances of leading your side to victory whether you bag loads of goals and assists or not. Winning as a team should be of the utmost importance even for individual prizes, just so even the CR7's and Messi's care about team balance, about defending, about marking, and not only about being flashy or hitting 3 digits of goals and assists. A Ballon D'Or winner should come from at least one of the finalists in UCL or World Cup, with rare exceptions. Continuing this train of thought, I honestly find it a disgrace to the game that CR7 takes so many shots per game, it's simply not possible that every single one of those attempts were the best option available for him at the time he made them. IMO that kind of overly selfish attitude should be discouraged from football and of the ways in doing that is not giving individual awards to players performing like that. I also think players who dive/cheat too much should not even make the list. The prize should be used to improve the sport more so than for awarding individual prowess which worsen it. But that's just me.

Bale it is then.

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