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19. Diego Costa

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49 minutes ago, Gilvorak said:

If we sign Alexis Sanchez (longshot) we could play him at CF.

Please no. 

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4 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Meh...Benz, Lukaku, Morata,...neither impresses me to say wow if we sign any of them. Anyone would be better than Costa on current form. But he should not be compared to others in current form. Would Benzema be better than current Costa? Indeed. But would he be better than Costa in his best form? Not even close.

If we are targeting a new striker, then we should target someone who will be even better than Costa on his best day.

Good luck finding such striker this summer.

Lukaku to me still looks big fish small pond type of striker. He might be banging them goals, but his character is way off what you expect from leader. Morata is good but isnt lone striker. Benzema is benzema...very good on good day, but inconsistent as hell. Auba is the same. Belotti and Lacazette are unproven. Who else is there? We definately need someone near prime, experienced leader, but I dont see anyone fit that profile.

I realy like the way Mbappe is developing, but he must stay in Monaco, he is too young for big club.

Its a real shame Costa till january was the perfect striker we could possibly have. I still think he will return in form, no worry about that at all. But in long term we need a reliable striker indeed.

I think Benzema at his best is better than Diego at his best tbh. But that's subjective.

The main difference is that when Benzema is off form he still contributes hugely to the team. 

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7 hours ago, Gilvorak said:

Why not?

He wouldn't be an upgrade for our CF position. He's a great winger but only a good striker. Don't wanna spend 50mil to play someone out of position. 

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7 hours ago, Chelsea? said:

He wouldn't be an upgrade for our CF position. He's a great winger but only a good striker. Don't wanna spend 50mil to play someone out of position. 

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His highest rated performances this season have come at Centre Forward according to Whoscored. Seems like you're talking out of your arse.

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On April 1, 2017 at 9:01 PM, nono said:

We have made lots of terrible purchases. Mutu, Crespo, Kezman, Torres, Schevchenko just off the top of my head. 

There is a lot of money in the Premier League but it's all chasing a lot of mediocre players. The real top quality ones go to Madrid/Barcelona/Bayern. Look at the strikers of those teams. They only buy the cream of the cream in terms of talent while we waste our funds on dross. Batshuayi is another pointless signing. 

Other leagues are probably having a laugh at the Premier League teams and the funds their throwing at donkeys. Stones 50m pounds. Martial 60m pounds. And there was a story that Lukaku and Barkley are going to go for 100m pounds combined. The fact that someone can suggest this possibility without being ridiculed shows how crazy things have gotten. 

Summer transfer window is crucial but I hope they don't fuck it up on poor players. 

 

Why the hell is Crespo on that list? He WASN'T a flop.

On April 1, 2017 at 9:19 PM, The Skipper said:

Wouldn't include Martial in there because he has top ability, just being massively wasted at United and Jose the Youth killer. In fact, I'd take him at CFC, would be fantastic with Hazard. But yeah, agree with the rest of your post fully.

Puts into perspective just how good Eden is to shine so highly under Jose given Martial, Mata and Miki's struggles under him.

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People are finally beginning to seeing the light with the gross Costa has produced for months. I don't moan just for the sake of moaning.

Hopefully after winning the league, we get someone else. He has served us well for Chelsea, but he just doesn't cut it. Can't consider him world-class.

Imagine him this time next season, producing gross when we needed him the most. Teams like United, Spuds and City would have majorly improved and we can't afford to miss chances like that.

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For all his fault's, Costa leading the line has produced 2 title's in 3 years for his team's and close to being 3 in 4. He may only show top form for half a season but often that's enough. Without meaning to sound like an AKB from North London we should be careful what we wish for.

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1 minute ago, Tomo said:

For all his fault's, Costa leading the line has produced 2 title's in 3 years for his team's and close to being 3 in 4. He may only show top form for half a season but often that's enough. Without meaning to sound like an AKB from North London we should be careful what we wish for.

...please stop it. We haven't won 2 titles in 3 years with Costa in the team. This season doesn't count until it's mathematically impossible for other clubs to catch us.

That's enough? Complete speculation if you are including this season. Last season, absolutely dreadful from start to finish, first season - Hazard had to carry the torch for the remainder of the season. 

Be careful what you wish for? That can go both ways. Remember Mourinho fans last season here saying we should stick with him? 

Costa is a good striker, but he is not good enough to take us to that level. As I said, imagine if we had CL at this stage. We need everyone to be at least 80% at their best. Costa has proven so far since he came to Chelsea that he couldn't handle it at this stage of the season.

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27 minutes ago, Tomo said:

For all his fault's, Costa leading the line has produced 2 title's in 3 years for his team's and close to being 3 in 4. He may only show top form for half a season but often that's enough. Without meaning to sound like an AKB from North London we should be careful what we wish for.

I want Costa to stay and sign a new contract. 

However if he is really intent on leaving to China I would let him go. 

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A lot of strikers are good for only half a season in PL. That's why you don't see English clubs going the distance in Europe.

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10 minutes ago, Mana said:

...please stop it. We haven't won 2 titles in 3 years with Costa in the team. This season doesn't count until it's mathematically impossible for other clubs to catch us.

That's enough? Complete speculation if you are including this season. Last season, absolutely dreadful from start to finish, first season - Hazard had to carry the torch for the remainder of the season. .

That's why i said close to being. Last season he improved vastly when Hiddink returned, first season scored at almost a rate of a goal a game for half a season. If we can replace him with good quality, ok fine, but i remember all too well having to send out an SOS to a semi retired Eto'o because we couldn't get anyone better and our current forward's were flaking harder than 99s. We are complaining now about a striker having a average half a season after a great first half, not long ago we were complaining about strikers having shit full seasons.

16 minutes ago, Mana said:

Be careful what you wish for? That can go both ways. Remember Mourinho fans last season here saying we should stick with him? 

Costa is a good striker, but he is not good enough to take us to that level. As I said, imagine if we had CL at this stage. We need everyone to be at least 80% at their best. Costa has proven so far since he came to Chelsea that he couldn't handle it at this stage of the season.

Jose's second coming at Chelsea was dead from the Southampton match onwards and it quickly became apparent to anyone who wasn't thinking 100% with there heart, the Costa situation isn't even 5% as perriless, come on. Can he take us to the next level? I have my doubts but i'd certainly rather gamble on him than some of the strikers linked as replacement's.

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Having THIS fragile, inconsistent player, who is really not that great even when on top form, is not worth it.

He will always have his problems, always. Being that suspensions, wanting to leave, long off-forms, injuries... His head will always be a problem, he will never get rid of it.

It's starting to turn into an Oscar situation, from year and a half ago: but, but, he just needs to find a good form, but but, it wasn't his day, but but, when he has his day he is the best... Give me a break.

Also, please stop comparing him and our ex strikers. Torres once had 20-goals a season with us too. Any decent striker with Hazard, Pedro, (sometimes) Fabregas and Kante behind him could.

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My problem with Costa is his head. Chels can't afford to sit on their arse and let Costa lead the dance with his inconsistent commitment to the club.
I'd love to see Chelsea invest big in Belotti (or Aubameyang) and then tell Costa (his agent) he can choose to stay and extend his contract or leave. The signing would show that the club will move on regardless. The club should be able to afford two star wages in just one position in the squad (won't last long anyway) if it comes to that.
But the thought of not getting a quality striker and Costa possibly becoming unhappy and this affecting his form during the season or him demanding to leave at a random point during the summer or winter window does not sit well with me. Chels needs to be in control.


Think we're now at a point where him leaving in the summer is more than likely and a replacement is on the agenda. Belotti would be my first choice amongst the realistic targets mentioned.

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5 hours ago, Tomo said:

That's why i said close to being. Last season he improved vastly when Hiddink returned, first season scored at almost a rate of a goal a game for half a season. If we can replace him with good quality, ok fine, but i remember all too well having to send out an SOS to a semi retired Eto'o because we couldn't get anyone better and our current forward's were flaking harder than 99s. We are complaining now about a striker having a average half a season after a great first half, not long ago we were complaining about strikers having shit full seasons.

Jose's second coming at Chelsea was dead from the Southampton match onwards and it quickly became apparent to anyone who wasn't thinking 100% with there heart, the Costa situation isn't even 5% as perriless, come on. Can he take us to the next level? I have my doubts but i'd certainly rather gamble on him than some of the strikers linked as replacement's.

 

I'd much rather have him than Lukaku  but sometimes he makes me want to punch my television. Like when against City he did a stupid foul on Fernandinho when Hazard was one on one with Stones. Sometimes I feel like he has little respect for the club and little care for his fellow teammates. That's the only way I can explain some of the crap he pulls on the field.

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1 hour ago, El P. said:

Having THIS fragile, inconsistent player, who is really not that great even when on top form, is not worth it.

He will always have his problems, always. Being that suspensions, wanting to leave, long off-forms, injuries... His head will always be a problem, he will never get rid of it.

It's starting to turn into an Oscar situation, from year and a half ago: but, but, he just needs to find a good form, but but, it wasn't his day, but but, when he has his day he is the best... Give me a break.

Also, please stop comparing him and our ex strikers. Torres once had 20-goals a season with us too. Any decent striker with Hazard, Pedro, (sometimes) Fabregas and Kante behind him could.

Mate the only good out and out strikers we had since Hasselbaink are Drogba and Costa. Thats around 15 years.

With Costa we are on two titles in three years. With Costa being, besides Courtois and Hazard the only who had giant impact.

I agree that Costa long term can be issue, because he seems to have these problems every season making him unreliable, but please...dont talk of him as if he is average, easily replacable striker.

Unless we manage to pull right strings and get third good striker in 15 years, lot of you will soon see that Costa was not just some inconsistent replacable striker, but our key player. 

Its ok to mention his possible departure after all this exit talk, its ok to criticise his form. 

But it should be self explanatory by every chelsea fan that Diego is one of our best players in recent years and should get all the respect. People seem to forget what he gave to the club.

This same thing went on in Eden thread year ago, screaming to be sold. Now everyone is kissing his ass again.

Part of supporting club is also supporting players when they are not in form, not try to sell them the second they underperform. Yet all you see in this forum is as soon this or that player has shit game, comments incoming lets replace him with someone...

Its just so sad when people scream for Lukaku and Belotti when the odds are they will perform worse than Diego. And yes it can happen. Would be funny to laugh at some smartasses then, but it realy has no point.

Fucking appreciate the fact we even have a good striker. Seriously comparing him to Torres, do you even watch football or what? And just to remind you and others, 4 months ago, Diego was definately top on form of 5 players in the world, more important than Eden or whoever else. Dont forget that.

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3 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Mate the only good out and out strikers we had since Hasselbaink are Drogba and Costa. Thats around 15 years.

With Costa we are on two titles in three years. With Costa being, besides Courtois and Hazard the only who had giant impact.

I agree that Costa long term can be issue, because he seems to have these problems every season making him unreliable, but please...dont talk of him as if he is average, easily replacable striker.

Unless we manage to pull right strings and get third good striker in 15 years, lot of you will soon see that Costa was not just some inconsistent replacable striker, but our key player. 

Its ok to mention his possible departure after all this exit talk, its ok to criticise his form. 

But it should be self explanatory by every chelsea fan that Diego is one of our best players in recent years and should get all the respect. People seem to forget what he gave to the club.

This same thing went on in Eden thread year ago, screaming to be sold. Now everyone is kissing his ass again.

Part of supporting club is also supporting players when they are not in form, not try to sell them the second they underperform. Yet all you see in this forum is as soon this or that player has shit game, comments incoming lets replace him with someone...

Its just so sad when people scream for Lukaku and Belotti when the odds are they will perform worse than Diego. And yes it can happen. Would be funny to laugh at some smartasses then, but it realy has no point.

Fucking appreciate the fact we even have a good striker. Seriously comparing him to Torres, do you even watch football or what? And just to remind you and others, 4 months ago, Diego was definately top on form of 5 players in the world, more important than Eden or whoever else. Dont forget that.

Don't listen to the bellends mate - they have no idea and will just make you angry 😡 😂😂😂

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8 hours ago, DYC. said:

My problem with Costa is his head. Chels can't afford to sit on their arse and let Costa lead the dance with his inconsistent commitment to the club.

I'd love to see Chelsea invest big in Belotti (or Aubameyang) and then tell Costa (his agent) he can choose to stay and extend his contract or leave. The signing would show that the club will move on regardless. The club should be able to afford two star wages in just one position in the squad (won't last long anyway) if it comes to that.

But the thought of not getting a quality striker and Costa possibly becoming unhappy and this affecting his form during the season or him demanding to leave at a random point during the summer or winter window does not sit well with me. Chels needs to be in control.

I just don't think he's that bright - more Braun than Brains 

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Led the line for a team that has won a historic title in Spain and was seconds away from winning the Champions League trophy in the same season. Now on route to a second league title in three years in England while being the main centre forward. Might not be the most complete forward, not even close to that, but this does not come by accident. Similar to Benzema, they bring more than goals to their teams. People would expect a Real Madrid forward to be one that scores an average 25-30 goals per season. Benzema is not. Actually he's only broke the 20 goal barrier twice since his transfer from France in 2009. Still, this is his 8th season leading the line for RM. How many times people have questioned him and his presence in that team based on "not being a goalscoring machine"? Feel it's the same with Diego Costa - not a predator in front of the goal, but undoubtedly a very importante piece in the puzzle.

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