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DavidEU

19. Diego Costa

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1 hour ago, Muzchap said:

I see that we have now found our Ivanovic replacement for constant criticism ...

 

Are you implying Ivanovic's critisism was undue? That would be proper deluded. One day we're going to see posts like 'it doesn't matter he scored 3 own goals; it's a team game, and if the team didn't go out and score 4, this player isn't entirely responsible.' Take the blue specs off.

There's a reason the players we can't stop bickering about - Ivanovic, Mikel, Oscar - have the door held open for them by the board. I wonder why. Maybe, the management see what 'we' do too; the faults in these players - and they're not so bad at their job to keep expecting 'good enough' while ignoring the reality that that mentality cannot nurture winners. As spectators, we're armchair-managers, but all managers, armchair or in the dugout, must share the common understanding that there's an upper echelon of class in football, and without ensuring you're part of that class you're allowing your rivals to adopt a more fierce squad & mentality.

If Madrid fans never jeered and only ever graciously kept their mouths shut whenever Ramos scored an own goal, he & they wouldn't be half of what they are today. They demanded better - thus, everyone became better. If they were so passive like I'm seeing people on here being, you today being one, they'd never give a contest to Barcelona again. They'd be an Arsenal instead of a Manchester United - beacuse the difference boils down to mentality; a difference which determines whether or not you'll be winning league titles. If Barcelona 'supported' their manager this season, they'd be stuck with him for another year and run the risk of not even getting in the Champions League. Bayern? Ruthless. Juventus? Ruthless. Chelsea? Toothless, if we take this proposed road of wrapping professionals in cotton wool while they don't do their job properly for 3 months.

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There's a reason the board have no intention of allowing Luiz, Hazard, Kante, Fabregas, Pedro, Terry, Azpilicueta & co. to go, at all, but are more than happy to entertain in press conferences via Conte that Oscar, Costa, and more could leave. Those aren't indispensable players, clearly the manager believes that too; but we have a handful of players who are. And those are the players who by some shred of compromise within myself, deserve this 'halo effect' Costa gets for doing fuck all for 3 months but scoring 3 tap ins.

There are so many strikers we could buy with a Costa sale & league win (with money left over) that'd genuinely raise the level of the players around them, fit our system more, give more as an individual, and score at least 85% as many goals (and no doubt assisting more) (there better not be any replies to this like 'do u really think we cld get him? :S'; yes boob, we have over a hundred million to splash next season) - Lewandowski, a damn run down Aguero who'd make us better than Costa does, Dybala, Sanchez in theory, Griezmann, even Morata & Mbappe if he plays how he played vs. City week in week out. Then there's the miriad of players who simply don't have the marketing agencies behind them, on a great level for the level of coaches & players they work with; but there's no point listing names hardly any of us recognise. They're out there, though; we usually buy them for 40m+ once they've joined a club slightly below our own.

Next player we need out is Matic. And no, he won't be a 'scapegoat now that Costa and Oscar and Ivanovic are gone', :lol:, he's been rightly under scrutiny for 2 years now and we'll resume the campaign to have him out as soon as other priorities are taken care of. Though i'd sooner purge ourselves of Cahill so we don't have to experience the '8 games without an own goal or defensive calamity? he must've been a good player all along!' malarky again.

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#Chelsea told Tianjin they would have to return with a bid of at least €150m in the summer, which the Chinese club intend to do. [SFR Sport]

 

GOD china.

sell him and buy Lukaku and Bernardo silva.

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50 minutes ago, scargo said:

#Chelsea told Tianjin they would have to return with a bid of at least €150m in the summer, which the Chinese club intend to do. [SFR Sport]

 

GOD china.

sell him and buy Lukaku and Bernardo silva.

For that money we could get Paulo Dybala :)

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He's horrible off form and I wrote it here two years ago, when he's not in his best his link up play is average on good days or very very poor like yesterday. It was a shitshow, he'd be solely to blame as he was helping Swansea a lot. Ridiculous amount of moves that he killed that were instigated by Hazard/Cesc and looked promising. Yet he doesn't let drought grow despite his form. He doesn't have that pressure when everyone is counting hours since he last scored. Diego is in good health and can play regularly without breaks so he can build some form but he needs to do this quickly. It cannot continue as he becomes burden for the team. Generally when he's on form his link up play is good, he can do sweet cushion passes even to fast the attacks. Now it slows the attacks at best or completely kills them and his chest layoffs are so hilariously bad now. I hope it's not second half season syndrome but if in the next two games nothing improves then he needs to be dropped. His general play is now so bad that even I think Chelsea should consider offers for him and I'm full Diego Costa in guy.

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2 hours ago, BlueLyon said:

Aguero on his day may be better than Costa, but he is either injured or banned half a season. Yeah a realy dependable striker right?

Funny, Costa used to be exactly like that. This is the first season I don't recall him having major issues with discipline and injuries, but the season isn't over yet.

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1 hour ago, manpe said:

 

Funny, Costa used to be exactly like that. This is the first season I don't recall him having major issues with discipline and injuries, but the season isn't over yet.

He misses games, but was present in majority of our most important games. We could almost always count on him. On other hand, Aguero is out of like half of key games gor City every season.

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Honestly, I don't know what has happened to his confidence since after December. When kante won the ball and we went on the counter to score in the first half, I was hoping that costa wasn't upfront with hazard because hazard usually goes for the one two's and Costa would have messed it up with a poor touch, luckily it was Pedro. I apologize to lukaku fans, there's no way costa has a better touch than lukaku again. And our style of play depends a lot on the hold up play from costa, so if his first touch or passing is as bad as today, we are never fluid. 

Luckily costa still makes runs in behind the defence and scores consistently (only in the box) . But the rest of his gameplay since after Christmas is poo.

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He has 6 more league goals than a winger the majority believe doesn't score enough. He currently scores as much as we expect from an assist-orientated player. And it's his goalscoring which is apparently his strength:blink:

I look at these 17 league goals of his, and wonder, if the people thinking that's good enough witnessed Drogba get 30 in 2009 (a certain midfielder got 22 that season).

In 2011 RVP got 30. Next season, he got 26 while Suarez in a 1-man-team got 23.

Next season, Suarez got 31, Sturridge got 22, and Yaya Toure of all people had 20. 

Next season, Aguero had 26, Kane had 21. Costa had 20 (his highest still.)

Last season? Kane had 25, Aguero & Vardy had 24, and Lukaku with his shortcomings and weak teammates got 18 (which he's yet again surpassing this season; strides). Costa got 12, which is less than Ighalo ("who did he play for again?")

Kane consistenly gets 20+ season after season, as do Aguero, Suarez, (get ready to add Lukaku to the club), Higuain, Lewandowski, Benzema, Icardi and more. Will Costa ever get us 20 league goals in back to back seasons? I seriously, seriously doubt it. Clearly he isn't a clinical poacher then. We've established he's no target man (that's what Drogba was, and what Lewandowski is. It takes link-up play.) He isn't Mr mc. Pacey, nor is he some sort of Dybala/Bergkamp freak-dribbler. So, he's just a bog standard, jack of all trades striker compared to every other top team, and compared to the standard that's been set here. Don't forget, all of these players especially Drogba, got far many goals while also bringing qualities to the team, like assists, link-up play, defending set-pieces, taking set-pieces. Costa would have to give up his entire shoddy game and do nothing more than creep outside the box in hope to get those numbers. But it's not like he does a single thing I just mentioned anyway.

He's half the player Drogba was, and Drogba wasn't even Henry/Messi himself. Laughable that this guy is lauded a goalscorer :lol:We've seen some real top strikers, and Costa's about Anelka's level. Too good to be on the bench, but not good enough to say 'there's no way we could do better in the striker department, we can't be strengthened there.' He's basically a Mario Gomez without the heading capability. Gomez being an incredibly prolific player, who was hunted out of Bayern regardless, because their standards are where ours should be. They'd never let a player continue to stay in the XI despite having only 2 positive qualities, when there's around 15 things a player can be good at.

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On 01/03/2017 at 0:40 AM, Unionjack said:

You cant deny some stats eh

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Yup, if there were 3 players I'd rush to put in my top 10 Premier League strikers of all time, it'd be Ibrahimovic, Costa and Harry Kane. Because I'm 13.

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Would anyone happily take a hybrid player who was made of Lukaku's touch, Defoe's scoring ability, Giroud's pace and Aguero's heading ability? He'd be about as strong as that Lukaku bloke too, or even Akinfenwa.

Does that sound enticing, and good enough? Or does it sound sickening like it should? To me it sounds familiar.

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34 minutes ago, Leif said:

Would anyone happily take a hybrid player who was made of Lukaku's touch, Defoe's scoring ability, Giroud's pace and Aguero's heading ability? He'd be about as strong as that Lukaku bloke too, or even Akinfenwa.

Does that sound enticing, and good enough? Or does it sound sickening like it should? To me it sounds familiar.

Sounds like 2 titles in 3 years to me!

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3 hours ago, Leif said:

Would anyone happily take a hybrid player who was made of Lukaku's touch, Defoe's scoring ability, Giroud's pace and Aguero's heading ability? He'd be about as strong as that Lukaku bloke too, or even Akinfenwa.

Does that sound enticing, and good enough? Or does it sound sickening like it should? To me it sounds familiar.

I guess you realy miss Torres days...

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